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if someone prays for healing and is not healed, is it because they don't have enough faith? I have MS and have had it for 20 years...so basically all my life. I've been told that it is my fault I'm not healed yet many times. I personally disagree, what do you guys think?
 
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Tough.

I too would like to hear an answer. I have personally, to Him be the Glory, laid my hands on a blind woman and I watched the blindness leave her. I have seen deaf people hear, and people climb out of a wheel chair. On the other hand I have seen awesome men and women of God suffer simple diseases.

Father, please allow us to understand Your Will regarding this matter.
 
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if someone prays for healing and is not healed, is it because they don't have enough faith? I have MS and have had it for 20 years...so basically all my life. I've been told that it is my fault I'm not healed yet many times. I personally disagree, what do you guys think?
I don't think it's your fault at all but rather the church's fault collectively. The vast majority of churches here in America have never seen a true authentic miracle of God performed right before their very eyes as JayKay has mentioned. I personally believe that most American churches are taught a self centered form of christianity where our christian experience is more about us, our spirituality, our spin on doctrine, our finances, our desires, our soul going to heaven or hell.

What ever happen to whole hearted surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ and walking in his example of selflessness and holy living?
 
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Sweet eyes, I pray for the day when you will be healed of your affirmities. I pray for the day when we the church begins to feel true geniune compassion for one another, the authentic heart of God, and out of that compassion we are moved to lay hands on one and another and pray and out of His infinite love and compassion you will find your healing!
 
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if someone prays for healing and is not healed, is it because they don't have enough faith? I have MS and have had it for 20 years...so basically all my life. I've been told that it is my fault I'm not healed yet many times. I personally disagree, what do you guys think?
No, those who say lack of healing is because of lack of faith are ignorant. God can use sicknesses for His glory. Fanny Crosby was blind and was probably the greatest hymnwriter who ever lived, had she not been blind it probably would not have happened. We may not understand why we have these things, but we know ALL things work together for good, so we can be assured that God is still there and that what we go through will be for our own good.
 

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No, those who say lack of healing is because of lack of faith are ignorant. God can use sicknesses for His glory. Fanny Crosby was blind and was probably the greatest hymnwriter who ever lived, had she not been blind it probably would not have happened. We may not understand why we have these things, but we know ALL things work together for good, so we can be assured that God is still there and that what we go through will be for our own good.
That is very sound advice. May I add that you keep believing God for your healing because you never know what He will do when He passes by.
 
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You have a very genuinely sincere question.
It is true that Jesus Christ was the payment not only for our sins, but alsofor our sicknesses and diseases as well, and that by his stripes, we were healed. The payment was made. 1 Peter 2:24.

We all must realize that healing is always God's Will. Jesus, who always did the Father's will, went around healing those who were oppressed of the devil. Acts 10:38.
We all experience sickness and disease in our lives at one time or another. The believer however, can claim the deliverance that legally belongs to them through their redemption they have in Christ Jesus.

Believing comes by hearing the Word of God. Romans 10:17
We do have to build our believing so we can appropriate what God has made available.
We must continue to build the Word in our lives to dispel all fear, doubt, ignorance, and wrong teaching that keeps us from receiving our healing.

Sickness and disease are never your fault. Nor should you condemn yourself that your healing is not yet manifested in your life like you want it be yet,.

Just thank God every day that by Jesus Christ's stripes YOU WERE HEALED, build the positives of the Word in your heart, keep a positive picture of yourself delivered.......and expect........GOD LOVES YOU..........HE wants you to have your miracle.

Psalm 103:3 means what it says and says what it means. There is no sickness or disease that God cannot or will not heal.

God bless
 
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if someone prays for healing and is not healed, is it because they don't have enough faith? I have MS and have had it for 20 years...so basically all my life. I've been told that it is my fault I'm not healed yet many times. I personally disagree, what do you guys think?
Hello sorry about so many misunderstandings, I am not one to give advice, but let me see If I can help. Faith has alot to do with it, but there are other things in our life that can hinder healings, such as Our walk with Christ, if we are living in open sin God may not heal us, also the third thing that I know that may hinder a healing is that as the Blind man in scriptures, they asked Jesus who sinned the man or his parents seeing that he was borned blind, Jesus said neither had sinned. that the man had been borned blind that God might get the glory this day, and the man recieved His sight, also satan can rob us of a healing , see A healing is different from a miracle, I go to Church the Spirit is moving, it changes into a healing service, I go up because I been having bad headaches the preachers anoints me, prays for a healing, I go home then to bed the next morning I wake up my head starts hurting , then satan steps up says see You didn't get healed, you are still hurting, steals my faith, the head aches come back.

Jesus said to some that were healed "Go and sin no more" told one that if they did sin that the illness would come back stonger than it was. I am not saying that you are living in sin, just that this could be a reason why people don't get healed. sorta like you go to church you get prayed for , then you leave Church and go jump into bed with your Boy/girl friend, and it was God's fault you didn't get healed. so yeah faith is one thing , but many others factors may hender us from a healings / miracles. you said 20 yrs I think it was wiggles worth dad that was in a wheel Chair believed that he had received a healing from God one night at church, would tell people after that night that God had healed him and that he was coming out of the wheelchair, and 26years later he did just that, He walked away from his wheel chair

\ let me share a little story about faith, back when people depended on farming there was a town that was experiencing a drought, it was real bad, things were done past drying up they were already dried up, the town call for a pray meeting they were going to pray for rain, so all the people came together for the prayer for rain , But only one Little girl brought her umbrella. now thats faith asking God for something and expecting something From Him !!!!

Hope this has helped in some small way, I have a friend with ms.
 
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You are not sick because you have little faith . Also, how can God be glorified by someone being sick ? a sick christian just makes people doubt . You are sick for whatever physical reasons cause MS .im not a doctor , but would like to be one some day so that i may help people live longer and better . being sick doesnt mean you have a demon or poor faith. Surprisingly , the Bible never teaches that "healings" and "miracles" are alwasy supposed to be hapenning . There isnt any miracle recorded in the whole David story , adn there isnt one "limb restoration" in the whole OT . In fact there are very dew healings in general in the whole Bible llet alone the OT . In the Bible , bad things happened to Gods people all the time as a part of life . innocent people even die in the Bible . The only world that doesnt have death and sickness and sorrow and persecution is the world to come . in this life we are always vulnerable to sickness and death and stuff . So dont let your illness affect your "spiritual" life since it has nothign to do with it . You arent healed of your MS for the same reason God didnt just ressurect Able whne he was killed by Cain . He just didnt
 
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The Bible actually speaks ill of people that look for miracles and its for thsi reason precisely . the LACK of miracles causes doubt in poeple becuase they have been told that God "promised" to heal them of all their deseases when He didnt . Christians can get cancer just like non believers etc as long as these chrsitans are still human adn still live on this earth they are succeptable . Thats why chrsitians are always doubting and donverting away because they are constantly promised things they will never see adn then they get discouraged and leave . Jews dont stop being jewish when they dont see their aunts arm grow back because they dont need miracles to know God exists
 
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Hello sorry about so many misunderstandings, I am not one to give advice, but let me see If I can help. Faith has alot to do with it, but there are other things in our life that can hinder healings, such as Our walk with Christ, if we are living in open sin God may not heal us, also the third thing that I know that may hinder a healing is that as the Blind man in scriptures, they asked Jesus who sinned the man or his parents seeing that he was borned blind, Jesus said neither had sinned. that the man had been borned blind that God might get the glory this day, and the man recieved His sight, also satan can rob us of a healing , see A healing is different from a miracle, I go to Church the Spirit is moving, it changes into a healing service, I go up because I been having bad headaches the preachers anoints me, prays for a healing, I go home then to bed the next morning I wake up my head starts hurting , then satan steps up says see You didn't get healed, you are still hurting, steals my faith, the head aches come back.

Jesus said to some that were healed "Go and sin no more" told one that if they did sin that the illness would come back stonger than it was. I am not saying that you are living in sin, just that this could be a reason why people don't get healed. sorta like you go to church you get prayed for , then you leave Church and go jump into bed with your Boy/girl friend, and it was God's fault you didn't get healed. so yeah faith is one thing , but many others factors may hender us from a healings / miracles. you said 20 yrs I think it was wiggles worth dad that was in a wheel Chair believed that he had received a healing from God one night at church, would tell people after that night that God had healed him and that he was coming out of the wheelchair, and 26years later he did just that, He walked away from his wheel chair

\ let me share a little story about faith, back when people depended on farming there was a town that was experiencing a drought, it was real bad, things were done past drying up they were already dried up, the town call for a pray meeting they were going to pray for rain, so all the people came together for the prayer for rain , But only one Little girl brought her umbrella. now thats faith asking God for something and expecting something From Him !!!!

Hope this has helped in some small way, I have a friend with ms.

Then as paul was afflicted to keep him humble
 
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The Bible actually speaks ill of people that look for miracles and its for thsi reason precisely . the LACK of miracles causes doubt in poeple becuase they have been told that God "promised" to heal them of all their deseases when He didnt . Christians can get cancer just like non believers etc as long as these chrsitans are still human adn still live on this earth they are succeptable . Thats why chrsitians are always doubting and donverting away because they are constantly promised things they will never see adn then they get discouraged and leave . Jews dont stop being jewish when they dont see their aunts arm grow back because they dont need miracles to know God exists
What did the bible mean when it say that by His stripes we were healed ? if It weren't God's will for us to be healed then Jesus just could have been Crucified on the cross and skipped the cat of ninetails, but He received 39 lashes so we could be healed
 
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Jas 5:13Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.Jas 5:14Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:Jas 5:15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
 
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if someone prays for healing and is not healed, is it because they don't have enough faith? I have MS and have had it for 20 years...so basically all my life. I've been told that it is my fault I'm not healed yet many times. I personally disagree, what do you guys think?
Peace be to you
There was a boy,1 of 12 he was the youngest.His father getting up in age Loved him very much as age tends to bring appreciation.One day his father made him a very rare and beautiful robe.

His other brothers where very jelious of his fathers love for him so they took him and threw him in a well and later sold him to slave traders.

The brothers reported to his father he had died and took his robe and smeared goats blood all over it saying the boy had bin killed by a wild anaimal.

Anyways back to the boy;Well he got sold and traveled with the slavers where he came to a city.There he was sold and found faver with his master.So his master liked him and made him kinda head of the house.

Now the boy was a young man and the woman of the house was attracted to him and kept trying to have sex with him.being friends with his master he refused but one day when the master was gone she presured him saying have sex with me and was forcing him, he got away but she pulled his robe off and ran out of the house.

The woman mad accused the young man of trying to have relations with her and held his robe.

Well the master threw the young man in jail which he stayed for 3 more years.

This young man had the holy spirit and a relationship with God threw it all.

This storey is the storey of joseph.Sometime it is hard to understand why things are the way they are.
http://www.kingjamesbible.com/B01C037.htm This storey always cheers me up

math 18

Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
We arnt here very long sweet-eyes

Love a friend in God
 
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What did the bible mean when it say that by His stripes we were healed ? if It weren't God's will for us to be healed then Jesus just could have been Crucified on the cross and skipped the cat of ninetails, but He received 39 lashes so we could be healed
Jesus was never sick as far as the NT goes. I dont think he had aids, cancer , ms , depression, diabetes , at any point . "lashes" isnt a disease . now, i flip it over to you. You claim that it IS God's will for her to heal, adn you believe that if you pray she will be healed. So now heal her. you have 24 hours . if in 24 hours she isnt healed, then you dont have any faith since even super small failth can move a mountain . If you are correct, then it should be no problem whatsoever healing her within 24 hours. i hope you succeed
 
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The key with faith is that if you don't really believe you are healed you won't be. It could be a persons fault they aren't healed. Then again it may not be. Only God knows. But maybe you yourself know if you feel you have doubt in your heart you know. Then again what is faith, faith is in the heart. Faith is not in the head. Believing God can do something, is not the same as believing He will and has done something. The past tense is important. If you believe you are healed you don't doubt and don't say "I'm not healed", just confess that you are because you are re-affirming a truth. Persistance is important too, I mean for example one time I prayed daily for 3 months before God healed me of bronchitus. Each and every day the faith grew a little more until I had enough faith to receive. I was stupid though I should have seen a doctor. I don't know, even if it is not God's will to heal you, if you persist and persist and persist for years if you have to, I believe God can change His mind or you can be at that place of great faith to see yourself healed. Most of us aren't apostle Paul's and the reason why Paul was given that thorn in the flesh was because he had these great revelations which may have made him proud. So if you aren't an apostle and haven't had those big revelations there's a good chance God wants you healed. There's different levels of faith too, praying for someone thousands of miles away to be healed requires great great faith, I've rarely heard of anyone to be healed by a "dear God please heal so and so" prayer.. without laying on of hands, without anointing of oil or taking the Eucharist , or something tangible that helps build our faith, or the prayer of an anointed healing gifted person. Those thousands of miles away prayers are really only beneficial to give someone peace of mind or emotional comfort that someone is praying for them, rather than actually moving the power of God to see a miracle take place.
 
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Now the funny thing is, and it's a little bit ironic, christians believe they are saved, they are adamant about that, they will declare " i am saved" all the days of their life, they believe they are saved for ever and ever, saved eternally, no doubt about it, no questioning it, if you do question it they will snap back you really quickly. Yet when it comes to healing, where's the faith?
Surely, the faith to be saved, the faith that God will raise up your mortal body from the dead after it's a pile of ashes or dust is greater than the faith to be healed?

But there's no use having faith if the power of the Spirit is not there. There's only one power that can heal and that's the power of the Holy Spirit. Can a dead battery power anything?, can an empty fuel tank power a car? Can you charge a solar panel using the sun at night? .. Can a christian without the power of the Holy Spirit heal anyone? ..logically.. no! Remember that the disciples could do no miracles until Jesus gave them the authority and power over the enemy. This is so much common sense it amazes me how many people ignore it or miss it. That's why I wouldn't normally ask a new convert to pray for healing. That's why I wouldn' t ask a priest or pastor to pray for my healing who doesn't believe in miracles. That's why I wouldn't ask a youth pastor or christian psychologist or counsellor to pray for healing if they are so busy they only spend 5 minutes a night in prayer to God. Just having a piece of paper from a bible college or being a great preacher or leader of a church doesn't give them the ability to heal people. I've spoken to some pastors about healing and they look at you as if you speak a foreign language. It's all foreign to them because they only really know the facts and figures, but have little experience to go with it.
Find people who are filled with faith and the Holy Spirit and get them to pray for you. And stay away from the skeptics, doubters, heresy hunters, doctrinal or denominational badgerers, gnat strainers, hair splitters, even the overly sympathetic and pity-partyers too can be a problem. Our western churches are full of them, unfortunately. Stay away from the "dear God pretty please" type prayers, that's not prayer, that's sucking up to God, as if he is somehow unwilling to heal.
 
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Sweet eyes...the only thing I can say, from a little bit of experience ( multiple spine injuries, back surgeries, disc degeneration, neuropathy)...and yes a few well intended folks tellin me i havent been healed because of lack of faith, obviously it must be something im doin wrong, otherwise, Id be healed!...I MAY have a jacked up back, I might not be able to walk well or do the things others do daily, and who knows, it may get worse before it gets better, BUT...I can still work, help my family, I can still WALK, and you know what? I may not get healed on this earth, but rest assured when I see Jesus face to face...ILL BE WHOLE! Best I can figure, this is just something I gotta deal with, and theres alot of people out there way worse off than me, so in the mean time, im gonna give God the glory, and just do the best I can day by day. Our ways are not Gods ways, and our times not his time.
 
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missy2shoes

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Smithswigglesworth was used by God mightily in healing....he saw the dead raised, the lame walk, sight restored etc....and yet his daughter remained deaf her entire life....

In life's experiences....what is God trying to teach us through them?.....I love the book of Job....love it.....Job says, 'Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him.'

I have been praying for healing for a long time now. As time goes on I have gone through many emotions. Sadness, anger, bitterness etc......through them all, God has never left my side and is patiently is teaching me valuable lessons.....

Like Noahsmom....I will continue to serve Him through this trial.....I would rather die trusting...than to live doubting
 
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Brilliantly said Missy, there are people watching us each and every day and your very life is on display for those who are wacthing to see that you go on serving regardless of the pain. In times of pain i try to focus on God and say ....God if this is your will for my life then so be it.....Glorify yourself in me!
There have been times in my walk through this life that it has almost been unbarable to keep going but He has been the Helper and the Lifter of my head. He has given me a reason for waking in the morning, he has given me a song to sing....let us rise up and praise him for he is Emanuel (God With Us)
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