Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture
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^ Not exactly... but you are getting much more close to it, now!! So I won't nit-pick too much! CONGRATS!!
You're no longer placing "departure" (rapture) in the sentence TWICE [in v.3], as you had been doing before. THANK YOU!
You're no longer placing "departure" (rapture) in the sentence TWICE [in v.3], as you had been doing before. THANK YOU!
No. You maybe didn't follow the posts. He was joking by saying CONGRATS that the poster was coming around to his point of view and was congratulating them. Just go up a few posts and you will see the exchange.
I have made my determination that the Lord will definitely be taking His bride home before the wrath comes.
I have made my determination that the Lord will definitely be taking His bride home before the wrath comes.
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"The great tribulation" is a distinctly different from the kind of tribulation we experience in a general sense. There's a lot more Biblical material on this, but in the below passage Jesus speaks about it a bit.
Matthew 24:15-25
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25Behold, I have told you before.
Matthew 24:15-25
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25Behold, I have told you before.
I do not believe any of these things are biblical:
~ 7-year tribulation [period]
~ separated 70th week of Daniel
~ 'Antichrist' treaty with Israel
All of these ideas are based on the severe misinterpretation of Daniel 9:24-27.
There is no 7-year 'prophetic' End Times period.
There is a 3.5-year 'prophetic' End Times period.
We call it the [time of the] 'Two Witnesses".
It is 'post-trib'.
Directly after it is the Second Coming of Christ - which includes the resurrection and rapture - followed by the 'Wrath of God'.
The Bible shows us these things.
It is all "in the details"...
~ 7-year tribulation [period]
~ separated 70th week of Daniel
~ 'Antichrist' treaty with Israel
All of these ideas are based on the severe misinterpretation of Daniel 9:24-27.
There is no 7-year 'prophetic' End Times period.
There is a 3.5-year 'prophetic' End Times period.
We call it the [time of the] 'Two Witnesses".
It is 'post-trib'.
Directly after it is the Second Coming of Christ - which includes the resurrection and rapture - followed by the 'Wrath of God'.
The Bible shows us these things.
It is all "in the details"...
You don't think that all of the 'tribulation' over the past ~2000 years (including up to some point in the future after millions/billions are beheaded for not worshipping the beast) - collectively - is worse than anything before it or after it?
Jesus "defined" the phrase "great tribulation" (Matthew 24:21) - yet, He did not call it [The] 'Great Tribulation'. Only we do that. He simply said that 'great tribulation' would occur.
He told us when it would begin.
He told us when it would end.
We have seen the beginning point in time.
We have not seen the ending point in time.
What does that then mean?
Jesus "defined" the phrase "great tribulation" (Matthew 24:21) - yet, He did not call it [The] 'Great Tribulation'. Only we do that. He simply said that 'great tribulation' would occur.
He told us when it would begin.
He told us when it would end.
We have seen the beginning point in time.
We have not seen the ending point in time.
What does that then mean?
I believe the elect that are saved in in Matthew 24:22 are those who survive the 'great tribulation' that Jesus spoke of.
Matthew 24:22
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
The 'we who are alive and remain' are the elect. They're Christians.
1 Thessalonians 4:17
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
To directly answer your question, yes there is a remnant. There will only be a relatively small number of Christians who are raptured, everyone else will need to be resurrected.
Matthew 24:22
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
The 'we who are alive and remain' are the elect. They're Christians.
1 Thessalonians 4:17
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
To directly answer your question, yes there is a remnant. There will only be a relatively small number of Christians who are raptured, everyone else will need to be resurrected.
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