Why I'm getting the vaccine.

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ZNP

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https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Rf83cc8FDPB/

Germany has a moratorium on all Covid vaccines for two weeks and has suspended all licenses so it is not possible to get the vaccine in Germany for the next two weeks.
In case people missed this, it is a link to a video where German official announces they will suspend all licenses for Covid vaccines for two weeks so it will not be possible to get the vaccine. This is not fear mongering, it is a response to valid concerns. Germany is not anti big business, not anti big Pharma, not anti vax, not anti science.

Germany Bans all Covid Vaccines
 

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Rally against forcing people to get the vaccine.


Protest of vaccine mandate in San Jose
 

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Recently there are so many words around that are new to me, and being isolated in my apartment does not help. Part of the reason that I sought this forum out is to have some reasonably wholesome social contact. I have no idea what 'cancel culture', or 'trope' means.
 

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Recently there are so many words around that are new to me, and being isolated in my apartment does not help. Part of the reason that I sought this forum out is to have some reasonably wholesome social contact. I have no idea what 'cancel culture', or 'trope' means.
Cancel culture is where you find some mildly offensive joke someone made ten years ago on the internet and as a result get that person "cancelled". The most egregious case was of the "Karen" who called the police on "the black man" who was asking her to put her dog on a leash. She was fired and utterly ridiculed on the internet.

However the real story is quite different. She was in a part of the park where most people let their dogs run off leash (even though it is a violation of the park rules). This man did not like this and so he threatened her, he pulled out a dog bone to give to her dog and told her that he would deal with her dog and that she would not like what he was going to do. She panicked, she was alone in the park, grabbed her dog and at that point he began filming her as she called police saying she was being threatened by a black man. He put all of this on his own social media. So it was a very sinister plan to set this lady up to be "cancelled".
 
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Cancel culture is where you find some mildly offensive joke someone made ten years ago on the internet and as a result get that person "cancelled". The most egregious case was of the "Karen" who called the police on "the black man" who was asking her to put her dog on a leash. She was fired and utterly ridiculed on the internet.

However the real story is quite different. She was in a part of the park where most people let their dogs run off leash (even though it is a violation of the park rules). This man did not like this and so he threatened her, he pulled out a dog bone to give to her dog and told her that he would deal with her dog and that she would not like what he was going to do. She panicked, she was alone in the park, grabbed her dog and at that point he began filming her as she called police saying she was being threatened by a black man. He put all of this on his own social media. So it was a very sinister plan to set this lady up to be "cancelled".
'Cancel culture' is just a fun and disarming way of calling it what it is without alarming anyone. It's just a kid-friendly way of saying fascism, but no one wants to be a fascist. If they called it fascism then it wouldn't be as popular because people would feel like Nazis.

The average person doesn't look far beyond surface labels, if at all. This is why repackaging and rebranding old labels with new skins is an effective way to resurrect old ideas with a new look and style.
 
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'Cancel culture' is just a fun and disarming way of calling it what it is without alarming anyone. It's just a kid-friendly way of saying fascism, but no one wants to be a fascist. If they called it fascism then it wouldn't be as popular because people would feel like Nazis.

The average person doesn't look far beyond surface labels, if at all. This is why repackaging and rebranding old labels with new skins is an effective way to resurrect old ideas with a new look and style.
It's strange looking back at jr high.[I almost envy the 2 skin heads.They where strong confident idiots but they looked cool..2 me that is]..Not that they where but that's how i saw them...wow how simple minded i was
 

Icedaisey

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Pulled off a conspiracy website with no evidence. Only link simply explains the use of theragrippers and leaves at possible use in PCR testing but no proof. Just fear mongering.


Off the same conspiracy site saying they speak in layman's terms but yet you can find 100s of other Doctors who make it just as simple explaining why mRNA vaccine does not reach the nucleus.


True mRNA related to a rare blood cancer not related to mRNA vaccines. Read it more carefully. The actual study was published in 2018.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0465-8#citeas


Basically not enough data...

Conclusions
The current evidence base on messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines is made up entirely of small early-stage trials, nearly all of which examined only short-term outcomes. They lack sufficient power for testing the statistical significance of most results, and for assessing the risk of serious but uncommon adverse events.
The size of these trials and their dual purpose in evaluating dosing and safety precludes quantitative synthesis or GRADE analysis of their results, but there are a few trends that appear to be consistent across the different studies. Systemic adverse effects such as fatigue, headache, muscle aches, and chills are common following administration of mRNA vaccines, but they usually resolve within a day or two. Localized adverse effects, most notably pain at the injection site, are also common, and also resolve within a day or two. The rate of severe adverse effects (severe enough to interfere with a person’s daily activities) appears to be in the range of 5 to 10 percent. The rate and severity of adverse events increases with vaccine dose. The rate and severity of adverse events also appears to be greater following a second dose of vaccine than following the first.
Larger clinical trials of mRNA vaccines against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus are in progress, and their results are expected in mid2021. Once evidence from those trials is published, more certain conclusions about the safety of these vaccines may be reached. Additional trials will be necessary to determine the relative safety of mRNA vaccines and vaccines using more established technologies.
Clinical guidance specific to the use of mRNA vaccines is lacking at this time, because of the lack of clinical evidence.
As I said, mRNA vaccine has been researched in laboratories around the world since the 1980's. And till now have never been permitted for release to the public.

Pro-mRNA vaccers can't prove this vaccine is absolutely safe so they condemn evidences that prove they are not.

I read that mRNA cancer article carefully. Which is why I shared it. Others will read it and realize what's reported as to mRNA and it's effect with the cancer cells and easily make the connection that, "messenger" RNA is therefore something to pay attention to when utilized against a flu virus. One in the case of Covid-19 , the 19 reflecting the year, that is supposedly an engineered virus from China's Wuhan labs.

The virus is the first stage. The messenger vaccine the second.

One fact. Once the vaccine is in a bloodstream, that person's future is irrevocably altered. Especially if their system is already altered by having prior flu vaccines injected into it.

And to think, not that long ago people imagined genetic engineering was sci-fi. Now it's sci-fact.
 

Icedaisey

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We may wish to notice this statement, why I'm getting the vaccine, is in the Conspiracy forum.
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Fake news should not be legal
It must be legal. Otherwise , if fake news is made illegal, then the fake identification becomes subjective. And that means real news will be censored by law because someone exercising that legal censor authority judged it fake.
 
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It's strange looking back at jr high.[I almost envy the 2 skin heads.They where strong confident idiots but they looked cool..2 me that is]..Not that they where but that's how i saw them...wow how simple minded i was
i'm sorry i missed the whole thing you guy where talking about i guess i was being superficial
 

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Being a Veteran with COPD, I got the Pfizer vaccine very early. The development of it was very rushed and I have experienced lots of side effects, but they appear to be over now. I don't understand why people would not get it but it is their choice.

In my reading, I have seen that these Pandemics happen around every 100 years, the last one being the 1918 flu. Of course with GIs from WWI going back and forth, perhaps all that travel was a super spreader?

These vaccines take many years to develop. The Polio Vaccine took 50 years, so we need to accept the glitches along the way with the present one.
I had two jabs. No issues so far. It's not so dangerous. I cross busy streets daily... those are dangerous
 

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I had two jabs. No issues so far. It's not so dangerous. I cross busy streets daily... those are dangerous
I'm immunocompromised. I get the flu shot and get the flu and so on. I'm intersex XXY non-Kleinfelter's, with some possible AIS. Thankfully, I've led a full life and feel blessed by God. I never felt handicapped and done most of what I wanted to do, except my lungs were of limited capacity and a pain in the neck. Then I found out I have COPD.

There were lots of side effects for me on the Covid Vaccine. Thankfully, after a year or more it seems better.
 

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Our church is not willing to discuss the vaccine. Gender is binary for them. Im considering leaving as they don't want to engage with those not fitting in
 

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Our church is not willing to discuss the vaccine. Gender is binary for them. Im considering leaving as they don't want to engage with those not fitting in
Don't be too disappointed in them. It's taken years but my anger at my church seems less.