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eternally-gratefull
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Thats funny
3 or 4 years ago people posted the exact words of Jospeh prince himself that refuted what he was accused of.
I know. Because I researched and found those to be credible.
Hyper-grace the doctrine of cheaping Grace .
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3 or 4 years ago people posted the exact words of Jospeh prince himself that refuted what he was accused of.
I know. Because I researched and found those to be credible.
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SophieT
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Mr. Prince simply echoes the logical conclusions of the once saved always saved doctrine. If OSAS is true, then grace is "hyper" and a believer can sin and God's grace will cover it.
There is really little difference between OSAS and the teachings of the hyper-grace mentality (like Mr. Prince). If you want to believe in OSAS, then be honest and consistent and acknowledge that hyper-grace and Mr. Prince are also what you logically believe.
As for me, I believe in God's grace and salvation by grace through faith, not of works.
Though I definitely do not agree with Eternally Grateful on this subject, I respect him for being consistent by believing in both OSAS and hyper grace. Some others here claim to believe in OSAS but deny hyper-grace - that makes no sense to me!
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eternally-gratefull
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Whatever, If you hate me so much, Ignore mewell so now the thread is all about eternally grateful
kuddos
you've done it again
Just please walk away.
This is not about me
It is about hypocrisy and false accusations of people like me. A topic started by PeterJens in 2014. Something that started me on my downward trend of disgust with people who call themselves by Gods name, because they accuse people but when confronted. Can not prove their accusations..
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SophieT
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you just beg for people to respond even when they wish to be cordial you will not allow them
see what you did there? you accused me of hating you
again, its always all about you. drama queen
LOL! LOL!
This whole thread has me in stitches! Unbelievable! Back at it again! I sure don't care to argue about this subject all over again, but to be honest you are making the most sense of anyone on this thread! (except on your doctrinal issues - LOL!)
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eternally-gratefull
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I cant anymore.
Keep believing what you want. I am sick of trying to explain things to you.. You do not have to like what I do. I am not here to please you.
I have no need to prove to you anything after what you have said this far. I will not entertain your request. Go back to your very first post on my thread and read your own words. There are those who disagree with my thread who are far more appealing for my response than you.
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eternally-gratefull
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Back to the op
Do you have anything from actual people who teach what you call hypergrace to prove your accusations against them?
Do you have anything from actual people who teach what you call hypergrace to prove your accusations against them?
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eternally-gratefull
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Really? So why don't you quote exactly what he said to refute his own false teachings?
HI the word Pendullum
the pendulum has swung to another extreme, there is no balance! that was my words. everything from the Book I placed text citation with page # in " " and italicized
please don't lie the Thread did not even mention him you did. Be honest
My understanding of God’s grace in Scripture is that his grace is given as a gift and it is not something that we earn.( see Ephesians 2:8-9) God made the first move in sending Jesus to pay for the sins of the world. ( See John 3:16 and 1 John 4:19) Those who receive Jesus and have faith in him, are saved.( refer to John 1:12) People who are in Christ are new creations ( see 2 Corinthians 5:17) God works in them to will and to do his will.( see Philippians 2:13)
yes, I do and I need not prove anything to you. YOu have not refuted anything I have said. You name call and overly emotional. I think you do more damage to the cause of Hyper grace than good.
Anyway. I thank those of you who have at least read what I posted. There are many teaching today that I listed repeatedly that is relatively new and came on the Church seen as a NEW REVELATION and was greatly promoted for many reasons.
Do you all remember when the teaching of the Jezabel spirit came OUT LIKE IN 2000? How many books were on that topic?
The generational curses and deliverance services were all over the place everyone had demons even Christians and on and on it went.
Hyper grace was an application about the grace of God that took a remarkable abusive turn to unbiblical proportions.
As a Pentacostel the so-called action of the Holy Spirt in person that caused them to Bark like a dog was no more of God than these teachings. I have been to many places where I saw these things in my youth and asked God is this you?
Discernment was greatly needed. Then it was those ministers who ended up failing and the list is long and deep or all walks of life and denominations. You are very close to being in error IF you defend everything on teaching that asked and says everything hangs on it.
the contrast is very much seen in the word of God over the movement :
Biblical unbiblical
Holiness legalism
New Creature in Christ generational curses ( for Christians)
set free child of God Christian can be demon-possessed
In spiritual warfare, all demons must be named
Faith in God Your faith creates what you desire.
Study to be approved receive what God gave me for you
Jesus is the only way everyone is saved no matter what you believe
speaking out against sin is called Judgement
Baptism as Jesus was an option not needed
Fruits of the Spirit emotional fleshly actions
live for the Lord live of the world
and on and won't goes.
Do you all remember when the teaching of the Jezabel spirit came OUT LIKE IN 2000? How many books were on that topic?
The generational curses and deliverance services were all over the place everyone had demons even Christians and on and on it went.
Hyper grace was an application about the grace of God that took a remarkable abusive turn to unbiblical proportions.
As a Pentacostel the so-called action of the Holy Spirt in person that caused them to Bark like a dog was no more of God than these teachings. I have been to many places where I saw these things in my youth and asked God is this you?
Discernment was greatly needed. Then it was those ministers who ended up failing and the list is long and deep or all walks of life and denominations. You are very close to being in error IF you defend everything on teaching that asked and says everything hangs on it.
the contrast is very much seen in the word of God over the movement :
Biblical unbiblical
Holiness legalism
New Creature in Christ generational curses ( for Christians)
set free child of God Christian can be demon-possessed
In spiritual warfare, all demons must be named
Faith in God Your faith creates what you desire.
Study to be approved receive what God gave me for you
Jesus is the only way everyone is saved no matter what you believe
speaking out against sin is called Judgement
Baptism as Jesus was an option not needed
Fruits of the Spirit emotional fleshly actions
live for the Lord live of the world
and on and won't goes.
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SophieT
Guest
LOL! LOL!
This whole thread has me in stitches! Unbelievable! Back at it again! I sure don't care to argue about this subject all over again, but to be honest you are making the most sense of anyone on this thread! (except on your doctrinal issues - LOL!)
yet here you are
taking sides and you are free to do so
there really are no sides here regarding personalities. it is about what is actually scriptural or not
but please....LOL all you want. it's revealing