Why did the Most High God create sin?

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Pilgrimshope

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r their 3 gods or 1 god.We know Jesus does what the father tells him.It is written no one has ever heard the fathers voice.but the son of god has declared him.It is written this is my son in whom i am well pleased. So we know that's not the father but his mom the spirit.No i'm saying Jesus is not the father yet is
Jesus is The fullness of God the Father , Son and Holy Ghost .

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

in the ot he was hidden from mans sight and in the New Testament he is revealed for all to look upon and know.

we are the ones who cause Gods repentance because he loves us and we sin and die we create violence and evil and spread it through his creation and this causes repentance in him.

“And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just as under the law as they provoked his wrath according to his word he decides to destroy them for those evil , Moses the. Intercedes for the people and God repents of destroying them for thier evil

“And the Lord said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people: Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.

And Moses besought the Lord his God, and said, Lord, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?….


And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭32:9-11, 14‬ ‭

he repents on our behalf the peoples behalf from doing what justice required according to the law which said “ if you make idols and bow and worship other Gods you must be put to death “

repentance is different for God because he is holy and has no evil in him but man provoked it from our evil being connected to him by the death of life ( spirit of life ) he gave us in the beginning mans spirit came out of God
The life in us is connected to God and our state effects his heart when he relents it is what sustains creation until the apppointed time

a man relents for his own evil , God relents for mans evil to keep us alive and me to repent ourselves
 

Pilgrimshope

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yes & no.It is written he became sin.
“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:21‬ ‭

when did he sin and repent though you said he repented right ? But God doesn’t repent ? It’s not making sense

your pointing to the one without sin being made sin for us not because he had sin and repented
 
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“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:21‬ ‭

when did he sin and repent though you said he repented right ? But God doesn’t repent ? It’s not making sense

your pointing to the one without sin being made sin for us not because he had sin and repented
 
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god made us fall so he could b god.
that is nonsense

God does not tempt people nor does He create sin so they can fall

further, God is...no beginning and no end. HE WAS ALREADY GOD. HE IS ETERNAL

When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
James 1:13


31 And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day. Genesis 1:31
 
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SophieT

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yes & no.It is written he became sin.
HE BECAME OUR SIN

NOT HIS SIN. HIS DEATH WOULD HAVE MEANT NOTHING IF HE HAD ANYTHING SINFUL IN HIS LIFE. YOU HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD THE ENTIRE REASON JESUS DIED IF YOU THINK HE HAD SIN. THE REASON HIS DEATH IN OUR PLACE WAS ACCEPTABLE TO GOD IN THE FIRST PLACE, IS BECAUSE HE WAS SINLESS

YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS STUDYING TO DO
 
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know the father dos not change his mind..Jesus change his mind about going 2 the feast.Lets not play semantics!..That's the way one is defining the word or words from a passage.We will try it this way .Jesus was [sorry] instead of the word repented that he made man,,but Noah found grace in his sight.
 
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HE BECAME OUR SIN

NOT HIS SIN. HIS DEATH WOULD HAVE MEANT NOTHING IF HE HAD ANYTHING SINFUL IN HIS LIFE. YOU HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD THE ENTIRE REASON JESUS DIED IF YOU THINK HE HAD SIN. THE REASON HIS DEATH IN OUR PLACE WAS ACCEPTABLE TO GOD IN THE FIRST PLACE, IS BECAUSE HE WAS SINLESS

YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS STUDYING TO DO
studying cannot of itself make one wise.One must hate evil 2 b wise & that's not found in the land of the living.Also know that wisdom is a gift from god.
 

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r their 3 gods or 1 god.We know Jesus does what the father tells him.It is written no one has ever heard the fathers voice.but the son of god has declared him.It is written this is my son in whom i am well pleased. So we know that's not the father but his mom the spirit.No i'm saying Jesus is not the father yet is
Ther is One God who is the Father who is the son and Who is the Holy Spirit the mystery of the Eternal Godhead man is unable to comprehend the full divine of the living God. We are to approach HIM with this mindset

reverently
Humbly
Obediently

and understanding we are limited in our ability to fully understand all that an Infinite God is.

We only know HIM by General revelation His creation as Roman chapter One says

we only can know Him by Special Revelation is Word as John chapter One says

then finally we can know God by relationship Through the Lord Jesus Christ as Jesus said in the Gospels IF you have seen me you have seen the Father for we are one
 

Pilgrimshope

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Ther is One God who is the Father who is the son and Who is the Holy Spirit the mystery of the Eternal Godhead man is unable to comprehend the full divine of the living God. We are to approach HIM with this mindset

reverently
Humbly
Obediently

and understanding we are limited in our ability to fully understand all that an Infinite God is.

We only know HIM by General revelation His creation as Roman chapter One says

we only can know Him by Special Revelation is Word as John chapter One says

then finally we can know God by relationship Through the Lord Jesus Christ as Jesus said in the Gospels IF you have seen me you have seen the Father for we are one
love the post there

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:20‬ ‭
 

Pilgrimshope

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studying cannot of itself make one wise.One must hate evil 2 b wise & that's not found in the land of the living.Also know that wisdom is a gift from god.
refusal to study and assumptions that we already know can’t help though nor can redefining words established in scripture
 
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Ther is One God who is the Father who is the son and Who is the Holy Spirit the mystery of the Eternal Godhead man is unable to comprehend the full divine of the living God. We are to approach HIM with this mindset

reverently
Humbly
Obediently

and understanding we are limited in our ability to fully understand all that an Infinite God is.

We only know HIM by General revelation His creation as Roman chapter One says

we only can know Him by Special Revelation is Word as John chapter One says

then finally we can know God by relationship Through the Lord Jesus Christ as Jesus said in the Gospels IF you have seen me you have seen the Father for we are one
allow me 2 speak a little Zin stuff.We must empty r Self's of r self so that we can be filled with the spirit..thus have the mind of Christ. Then we will know what we need to know when we need 2 know it.
 
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SophieT

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studying cannot of itself make one wise.One must hate evil 2 b wise & that's not found in the land of the living.Also know that wisdom is a gift from god.
it would help you though

do you not know that the Bible itself tells us to study?

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. II Tim. 2:15

wisdom can be found in knowledge in scripture when we renew our minds according to the word of God

you can hate evil all you want, but if you ask me, it is kind of evil to disregard what scripture states and make up your own doctrine which is what you appear to be doing
 
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refusal to study and assumptions that we already know can’t help though nor can redefining words established in scripture
Tell me who's not agreeing with that?Funny because your questioning the the passage and or the translation and not me...How forceful r right words?
 
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SophieT

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allow me 2 speak a little Zin stuff.We must empty r Self's of r self so that we can be filled with the spirit..thus have the mind of Christ. Then we will know what we need to know when we need 2 know it.
you say you are unsure of your spiritual status in your bio

that would indicate you do not understand what Christianity actually believes

we are trying to tell you what Christianity actually teaches and believes...it is not what you are saying
 

CS1

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allow me 2 speak a little Zin stuff.We must empty r Self's of r self so that we can be filled with the spirit..thus have the mind of Christ. Then we will know what we need to know when we need 2 know it.
Zin doesn't mix with Christ.

The mind of Christ comes from the word of God the Holy Spirit brings into remembrance everything that Jesus has said. John 14-16 chapters say so. we are people of the word of God there Spirit of God doesn't do outside of the word of God.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Tell me who's not agreeing with that?Funny because your questioning the the passage and or the translation and not me...How forceful r right words?
I can’t even follow what your saying here again it doesn’t make sense.
 
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it would help you though

do you not know that the Bible itself tells us to study?

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. II Tim. 2:15

wisdom can be found in knowledge in scripture when we renew our minds according to the word of God

you can hate evil all you want, but if you ask me, it is kind of evil to disregard what scripture states and make up your own doctrine which is what you appear to be doing
o what do racoons know any way?How 2 chew on stuff?:p
 
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SophieT

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o what do racoons know any way?How 2 chew on stuff?:p
you cannot answer because you have been shown to be wrong

are you a rayzor? not too sharp if you think you are

if I actually were a racoon, I would still be right and you would still be wrong

as it is, everyone knows I am not a racoon and you are making fun because you have been shown to be wrong and you have no answer for that

so maybe chew on that
 

Pilgrimshope

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it would help you though

do you not know that the Bible itself tells us to study?

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. II Tim. 2:15

wisdom can be found in knowledge in scripture when we renew our minds according to the word of God

you can hate evil all you want, but if you ask me, it is kind of evil to disregard what scripture states and make up your own doctrine which is what you appear to be doing
“And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3:15‬ ‭KJV‬
 
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SophieT

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so rayzor

tell us how you think you can correct us about the Bible if you do not even know what your beliefs are?

or do you know what they are and they are not Christian?

I suspect the latter and have from the beginning of your posting here