Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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I dunno man.... you might be over tempting God...

You definitely would be tempting fate if you crowed at the foot of my bed in the morning. :LOL:
How can I tempt God by getting the Vaccination?
 

JTB

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Who knows, it may suck to be you...

You do know we reap what we sow, right.

Can't imagine God would be pleased with your attitude.

Do what you got to do and stop judging everyone else!

It's as simple as that...you have put your faith in a vaccine. You have been vaxxed so stop with the fearmongering. What are you so afraid of anyhow. You took the shot because you were told it will protect you from the virus. You either trust that the vaccine will save you or you don't.

You've already taken it...you can't go back...so let's hope it does work for your sake.
I took the vaccine because my wife and I were both infected with covid by someone who was exposed but didn't isolate, mask, or even let anyone know they'd been exposed.

I took the vaccine because I was almost hospitalized with covid and my wife is suffering long term after affects of her infection.

I took the vaccine because I have a knee replacement that's been delayed for 19 months now because the hospitals don't have the resources to handle it since they are overwhelmed with covid patients.

I took the vaccine because I don't want anyone else to have to suffer these issues.

I took the vaccine because I understand that MY ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE. That's actually a big one and bears repeating:

YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE.

One more time

YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE

I would have no problem with smokers if they could keep their smoke to themselves.

Likewise, I'd have no issue with antivaxers IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR GERMS TO YOURSELF.

But when people won't step up and voluntarily do the right thing, what are we to do?

I starts by remembering that YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE.

It's as simple as that.
 

JTB

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I'm saying that the natural consequences of not taking vaccines is a shortened lifespan. That since it seems to be centered on the Christian community...that's unique and should be something to take notice of.

Because Christians don't believe in voodoo and hocus pocus. We believe in truth (generally speaking). But now a huge contingent is under a delusion.

I'm not here to fight it....just stating the obvious. Just like the pharisees didn't recognize Jesus when he performed blatant obvious miracles there is a huge contingent of the Christian community that can't see the truth either. In fact they would rather believe anything else but the truth...all the way to scripture twisting to make it work in their heads.
And what did God repeatedly warn us about - being deceived by false prophets who LEAD HIS PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE TRUTH
 

joaniemarie

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I don't assume everyone should wear a mask, unless that is the law where they live.

What I object to is the lies saying people are dying from mask bacteria, when a mask has made my life so much better. And if people are wearing a piece of junk for a mask, not washing after each use, they have no one to blame but themselves!

Not all mask are bad for you. I get tired of the false sweeping generalizations! And no references or studies to show they are following the science, but ad hominem attacks and ugly name calling.

I just want people to stay healthy, both people who must wear masks, and those who choose not to!
None of these people had to die. Even if they got the virus they almost certainly would have survived and went in to have full, meaningful lives. Now they are dead because of the evil propaganda fed to them:


Anecdotal Comments of Death After the Jab Flood WXYZ-TV’s FB Post


https://uncoverdc.com/2021/09/13/anecdotal-comments-of-death-after-the-jab-flood-wxyz-tvs-fb-post/

Thank you for posting this with the link. I subscribed.
I really liked Donald Trump as The American President but do I have to agree with him on everything under the sun? No.

This jab doesn't work the same way as a vaccine. The science you so admire does not agree with your narrative.

They are not injecting a viral fragment but a code in the form of mRNA. Not to stimulate the immune system
but to turn the body into a factory producing S1 spike proteins similar to those found in coronavirus.
This isn't any secret or "conspiracy theory"


It's irrelevant what the ingredients are. They are injecting a code to make the body produce a pathogen.
And then hoping that the pathogen the body produces also elicits an immune response.


This can't honestly be called anything other than an experiment on the global population.
You may offer yourself as a guinea pig. I will not. You really don't have any right to counsel others to do so or to claim that
this experiment is safe in the long term. No one can possibly know these injections are safe. It's a gamble.


You are correct. What is so pathetic is the enormous amount of people who willingly gave up and are daily giving up their rights trusting the government to "take care of us" (and want ALLLLLL of us other Americans to follow suit)

I appreciate President Trump and the way he ran our country just like the BOSS he needed to be. He ran America like he ran his successful business in his life and it paid off for all of us.

I don't agree with him about covid vaccines and some other issues but for the most part President Trump exposed the evil that has been going on in our government and especially in Washington. He dealt with crooks like a GREAT GOOD NEW YORKER would. Straight forward and to the point.

But because of his personality traits many wimpy emotional people had their little feelings hurt and ALLOWED instead the despots in Washington like Pelosi and her band of crooks use Trump's tough personality against him and US Americans who support him. Accusing him and us of being racist among other false accusations.

Now we have illegal immigrants flowing through our boarders by the THOUSANDS every day under this new evil biden regime spreading covid and all sorts of other diseases we have yet to learn the extent of. Including murderers and slave traffickers. Not a word from our government on that just the communist MSM shutting any and all news that is contrary to biden's regime success.

Although during one of the press conferences Jen Psaki finally had to admit no such vaccine mandate restrictions are put on illegal immigrants to get the vaccine...ONLY us law abiding American citizens will be made to COMPLY.

But we have ignorant people right here on this thread defending the mandates against American citizens who don't want the dangerous covid vaccines all the while ignorantly not even considering the illegal immigrants with covid coming into our country without ANY restrictions.

It is people just like these government controlled citizens on this thread who will help the biden regime END America. They watch MSM and ingest their daily diet of lies and misinformation against American citizens who are fighting to keep our constitutional rights. They believe MSM that we their fellow Americans are their enemy because we CHOOSE what is going to be put in our bodies.

These left leaning anti constitution / anti America (as we know it) have admitted they support our government to have us who refuse this evil covid vaccine to be PUNISHED.... at first lose our jobs., our freedoms to go out into our communities including getting services at our hospitals., and eventually go into camps and be segregated from our countryman because they trust the lies from Fauci and MSM despots.

We are the freedom loving taxpaying stalwart Americans who work for a living and have made America great because we followed in our ancestors footsteps for having a good and profitable and moral community and country.

Unfortunately the non working Soros following ignoramuses are not interested in ever working and for most of their lives taken what the democrat run politicians provide free for them. They want handouts and for the first time these non working immoral people are able to virtue signal hard working Americans for not wearing masks or taking harmful deadly vaccines. (but abortions are 100% on their table of personal rights)

Their virtue signaling is a pathetic attempt to have virtue they couldn't attain otherwise in life. Wearing a mask and taking an injection automatically gives them (in their warped minds) some "virtue" As foolish as that sounds it is exactly what some of these ungrateful Americans have done. They are all to ready to throw away America making us like the rest of the world governments run and controlled by despots.

Depot: a ruler or person who holds absolute power typically one who exercises it in a cruel or oppressive way.
 

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I took the vaccine because my wife and I were both infected with covid by someone who was exposed but didn't isolate, mask, or even let anyone know they'd been exposed.

I took the vaccine because I was almost hospitalized with covid and my wife is suffering long term after affects of her infection.

I took the vaccine because I have a knee replacement that's been delayed for 19 months now because the hospitals don't have the resources to handle it since they are overwhelmed with covid patients.

I took the vaccine because I don't want anyone else to have to suffer these issues.

I took the vaccine because I understand that MY ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE. That's actually a big one and bears repeating:

YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE.

One more time

YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE

I would have no problem with smokers if they could keep their smoke to themselves.

Likewise, I'd have no issue with antivaxers IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR GERMS TO YOURSELF.

But when people won't step up and voluntarily do the right thing, what are we to do?

I starts by remembering that YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE.

It's as simple as that.
Yes, seems my family took the vax for all the same propaganda you quoted. Now my sister is pretty much disabled unless the Lord sees fit to heal her.

But hey guess it doesn't matter to you how many are disabled or killed by a vaccine that has not been studied enough to conclude anyone's safety... At least, you might get to have your knee surgery....????

You were free to choose to do what you wanted to do... quit trying to take other's choice away.

They keep pushing propaganda and mandates and we will soon see how that goes. As far, as I can tell it is going to end badly. So many nurses quit their jobs due to the new mandate in New York that one hospital had to completely close down their maternity ward.
 

JohnDB

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How can I tempt God by getting the Vaccination?
It was sarcasm dude! I was making a joke. Some people are claiming that the mRNA vaccines are made with Satan Blood...

I know...I just about laughed a bagel across the room when I first read it....I've since learned to not eat or drink when reading this forum.
 

JohnDB

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And what did God repeatedly warn us about - being deceived by false prophets who LEAD HIS PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE TRUTH
Are you insinuating that I am being untruthful?

How am I being deceptive?

I know that ALL the epidemiologists have a HUGE number of SETS of statistics that show precisely your chances of getting through this GLOBAL pandemic unscathed with vaccines versus without.

Basically, those who choose not to vaccinate will disappear by shorter lifespans and disadvantaged/disabled offspring.

Vaccines are but one tool for surviving a pandemic unscathed. They aren't the only tool....but they are a necessary one.
 

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I took the vaccine because my wife and I were both infected with covid by someone who was exposed but didn't isolate, mask, or even let anyone know they'd been exposed.

I took the vaccine because I was almost hospitalized with covid and my wife is suffering long term after affects of her infection.

I took the vaccine because I have a knee replacement that's been delayed for 19 months now because the hospitals don't have the resources to handle it since they are overwhelmed with covid patients.

I took the vaccine because I don't want anyone else to have to suffer these issues.

I took the vaccine because I understand that MY ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE. That's actually a big one and bears repeating:

YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE.

One more time

YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE

I would have no problem with smokers if they could keep their smoke to themselves.

Likewise, I'd have no issue with antivaxers IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR GERMS TO YOURSELF.

But when people won't step up and voluntarily do the right thing, what are we to do?

I starts by remembering that YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE.

It's as simple as that.

You are free to take all the vaccines and booster shots you like., you and your family are free to do so based on your own personal experiences and personal health issues. But seeking to virtue signal any and all who disagree with you is pathetic. There is absolutely NO virtue in that. So wear your mask and get your vaccines and take care of your business.

In light of your virtue signaling maybe you should also talk to people who decide to over eat and are in the hospitals because of their own poor health choices that effect other people and cause insurance rates to go up..

Maybe you should also talk to diabetics who refuse to take their insulin eating whatever they want and having their limbs amputated? Causing hospital staff to treat them even when some staff who think like you could be treating people who they "agree" with in life about your personal morally and politics instead.....????

Maybe you should also advocate with your virtue signaling to refuse healthcare to alcoholics and aids patients and others treated in our hospitals for their life style choices that cause insurance rates to go up and are a danger to hospital staff and others in society?

If you want to follow your poor logic through to the end., you will see many other people will suffer for yours and others personal virtue signaling.

There's something called the Hippocratic Oath that physicians take that outlines the duties and responsibilities of the health care are sworn to give to their patients.. I'm GRATEFUL to say (that for now) your opinions on virtue do not count. But you're not alone, the biden regime is on your side.
 
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I took the vaccine because my wife and I were both infected with covid by someone who was exposed but didn't isolate, mask, or even let anyone know they'd been exposed.

I took the vaccine because I was almost hospitalized with covid and my wife is suffering long term after affects of her infection.

I took the vaccine because I have a knee replacement that's been delayed for 19 months now because the hospitals don't have the resources to handle it since they are overwhelmed with covid patients.

I took the vaccine because I don't want anyone else to have to suffer these issues.

I took the vaccine because I understand that MY ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE. That's actually a big one and bears repeating:

YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE.

One more time

YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE

I would have no problem with smokers if they could keep their smoke to themselves.

Likewise, I'd have no issue with antivaxers IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR GERMS TO YOURSELF.

But when people won't step up and voluntarily do the right thing, what are we to do?

I starts by remembering that YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE.

It's as simple as that.

a lot of I's in there

but then, it is usually all about you :sleep:
 
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SophieT

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And what did God repeatedly warn us about - being deceived by false prophets who LEAD HIS PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE TRUTH
well hello there...speaking of....:whistle:
 
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a lot of I's in there

but then, it is usually all about you :sleep:
If more people were about their own self, they would be concerned to not hurt someone else.
The Vaccination for many keeps them from hurting others.
Is that wrong to be [selfish] and be Vaccinated to choose to protect Others?
 

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If more people were about their own self, they would be concerned to not hurt someone else.
The Vaccination for many keeps them from hurting others.
Is that wrong to be [selfish] and be Vaccinated to choose to protect Others?
Propaganda merchant.
 

JohnDB

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You think for Christians, knowing right Wing Propaganda, they would resort to Propaganda in choosing to be Vaccinated?

Look at yourself and the hate towards being Vaccinated you have.
I had that myself.
But real people around me got sick while I was healthy as a horse.
Turns out I could not feel ill effects of Covid, but I could carry it and pass it to others. I am A Symptomatic!
But, "How do you think I [FEEL] knowing I gave people Covid and there were DEATHS involved?
 

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You think for Christians, knowing right Wing Propaganda, they would resort to Propaganda in choosing to be Vaccinated?

Look at yourself and the hate towards being Vaccinated you have.
I had that myself.
But real people around me got sick while I was healthy as a horse.
Turns out I could not feel ill effects of Covid, but I could carry it and pass it to others. I am A Symptomatic!
But, "How do you think I [FEEL] knowing I gave people Covid and there were DEATHS involved?
I remember the year I went to a party with influenza...I thought that I just had a cold because I already had the flu a month before...

I felt miserable about it...and I contacted everyone at that party and let them know with a sincere apology.

And that was just for influenza... Tamiflu is good stuff and readily available. I can't imagine being part of a chain of infections that kills or disables multiple people...that sort of guilt would crush me.
 

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Natural Immunity 27 Times More Effective Against COVID Delta ‘Variant’ Virus Than ‘Vaccine’
BYTEXANS JACK & DODIEON SEPTEMBER 10, 2021 • ( 3 COMMENTS )


https://cleverjourneys.com/2021/09/...ainst-covid-delta-variant-virus-than-vaccine/
Nope.

Right wing political rag...
Tells you what you want to hear from fake science and fake scientist.

Try using the phone numbers from the researchers...this study has been investigated and been proven to be pure fabrication.
 
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I remember the year I went to a party with influenza...I thought that I just had a cold because I already had the flu a month before...

I felt miserable about it...and I contacted everyone at that party and let them know with a sincere apology.

And that was just for influenza... Tamiflu is good stuff and readily available. I can't imagine being part of a chain of infections that kills or disables multiple people...that sort of guilt would crush me.
Dude, they were my own family members.
I have to face children, parents, real people over what very well the Covid they had that killed them was a good 75% chance from ME!
 
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We were not allowed to view them. They were just burnt to ashes. No nothing, I was quarantined but my results came back Negative even though my Blood Work showed I was carrying Covid cell structure.
 
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