Vaccination?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


Results are only viewable after voting.
Status
Not open for further replies.

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,586
9,104
113
FYI
On 20 August 2021 Dr. Robert Young published his team’s findings after analysing the four dominant COVID-19 “vaccines” using Phase Contrast Microscopy, Transmission and Scanning Electron Microscopy and Energy-Dispersive X-ray Spectroscopy. Their findings both confirm and expand upon the prior investigations carried out by Dr. Pablo Campra (University of Almeria, Spain), Dr. Juan F. Gastón Añaños (Hospital de Barbastro, Spain), as well as the recent pathology reports from autopsies of vaccinated deceased which were carried out by Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt, Prof. Dr. Walter Lang and Prof. Dr. Peter Schirmacher (Germany & Austria).

https://nobulart.com/covid-19-vaccine-ingredients/
It loads just fine in USA.

He’s either messin with you, or his computer stank.
 

Aidan1

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2021
1,680
705
113
Lol, that's a real funny but ignorant conclusion :) You take an experimental injection where the trial cut off date is March 2023 but you already know it's outcome in September 2021...1,5 year before of this worldwide experiment finishes?

In the end the question is this: does lethal means instant death... or could it take it's time? How long did asbestos take before it became lethal? My uncle inhaled a lethal dose decades ago and it took another 40 years before the cancer showed up in his lungs. All that time his immune system controlled the apoptosis correctly but, as he got older, his immune system became weaker and could not control it anymore. Same with many other illnesses. You know were are making 10.000 cancer cells every night right? If not, then I am really wasting my time here. The assumption that illness or side effects (VAERS) show up instantly; overnight or over a short period is of course incorrect. All the time while people "claim" that they are "okay and healthy" and then suddenly get sick overnight, they don't reaiize that they have been unconsciencly working to get that particular disease through bad diet and/or living in an environmentally bad place for years. Pharmaceuticals always have risks; anything in life really :) Ever read the pharmaceutical insert?

So far, Big Pharma has been fined a fair few times (praise God) because of it's fraudulent studies and practices. It's a real choice to trust your life to such a corrupt industry. I remember my Catholic friend Fokker from the Congo who said when he had cancer, that he trusted white men for his health and his priest for his salvation. He did nothing himself, let alone take ownership of his health and spiritual life; seek God and/or doctor himself. Three years later after his death when my wife got cancer, we reversed it naturally. after a 14 months battle. It took ten months before we went to see a specialist who was an official GP but also had studied orthomoleculair health.

In the end, any industry that is given indemnity obviously doesn't have to stick behind them to provide a good and safe product and therefore cannot be trusted. If Ford Motors would have a fault in one of it's new cars and it blew up and killed four, the entire range would be shut down and the company fined to the hilt. Not so with the Disease Management Mafia or Phamakeia. They get away with virtually anything . Why? Because big industries like Big Oil have their foot up the government's ass.
Hope you will give us in April 23 an apologize for these baseless claimings. Would be nice.
And hope you survive the virus.
 

Aidan1

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2021
1,680
705
113
Lol, that's a real funny but ignorant conclusion :) You take an experimental injection where the trial cut off date is March 2023 but you already know it's outcome in September 2021...1,5 year before of this worldwide experiment finishes?

In the end the question is this: does lethal means instant death... or could it take it's time? How long did asbestos take before it became lethal? My uncle inhaled a lethal dose decades ago and it took another 40 years before the cancer showed up in his lungs. All that time his immune system controlled the apoptosis correctly but, as he got older, his immune system became weaker and could not control it anymore. Same with many other illnesses. You know were are making 10.000 cancer cells every night right? If not, then I am really wasting my time here. The assumption that illness or side effects (VAERS) show up instantly; overnight or over a short period is of course incorrect. All the time while people "claim" that they are "okay and healthy" and then suddenly get sick overnight, they don't reaiize that they have been unconsciencly working to get that particular disease through bad diet and/or living in an environmentally bad place for years. Pharmaceuticals always have risks; anything in life really :) Ever read the pharmaceutical insert?

So far, Big Pharma has been fined a fair few times (praise God) because of it's fraudulent studies and practices. It's a real choice to trust your life to such a corrupt industry. I remember my Catholic friend Fokker from the Congo who said when he had cancer, that he trusted white men for his health and his priest for his salvation. He did nothing himself, let alone take ownership of his health and spiritual life; seek God and/or doctor himself. Three years later after his death when my wife got cancer, we reversed it naturally. after a 14 months battle. It took ten months before we went to see a specialist who was an official GP but also had studied orthomoleculair health.

In the end, any industry that is given indemnity obviously doesn't have to stick behind them to provide a good and safe product and therefore cannot be trusted. If Ford Motors would have a fault in one of it's new cars and it blew up and killed four, the entire range would be shut down and the company fined to the hilt. Not so with the Disease Management Mafia or Phamakeia. They get away with virtually anything . Why? Because big industries like Big Oil have their foot up the government's ass.
Want to add, in case the Lord has not take the church till then.
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
It loads just fine in USA.

He’s either messin with you, or his computer stank.
It's just a blank page and I can't take a picture of it for some reason to prove it.

But, I have mentioned before, I am located in the area where the Most Conservative Info and Misinformation gets created at. And the Filters here just block anything that [is] 100% pure BALONEY!
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,586
9,104
113
This is all I get if this actually loads for me.

nobulart.com.pdf


Attention:
The requested page could not be found.
COVID-19 VACCINE INGREDIENTS
Published :August 31, 2021•Updated :September 25, 2021
This information is being suppressed. Please share and download a PDF copy.
INTRODUCTION
On 20 August 2021 Dr. Robert Young published his team’s findings after analysing the four dominant COVID-19 “vaccines” using Phase Contrast Microscopy, Transmission and Scanning Electron Microscopy and Energy-Dispersive X-ray Spectroscopy. Their findings both confirm and expand upon the prior investigations carried out by Dr. Pablo Campra (University of Almeria, Spain), Dr. Juan F. Gastón Añaños (Hospital de Barbastro, Spain), as well as the recent pathology reports from autopsies of vaccinated deceased which were carried out by Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt, Prof. Dr. Walter Lang and Prof. Dr. Peter Schirmacher (Germany & Austria).
Many of these substances were observed as being bonded to graphene oxide and metallic nanoparticles. GO nanoparticles are necrotic, able to pass into or through physiological barriers including (but not limited to) the blood-air barrier, the blood-testis barrier, the blood-brain barrier, and the blood-placenta barrier. Over a period of several months after intramuscular injection, as much as 75% of the GO nanoparticle “delivery platform”, and most of the substances listed below, are transported extensively throughout the bodies of mammals, into the blood, brain and other organs. Some of the many toxic effects of graphene oxide are myocarditis and blood clotting. Contamination in vaccines appears to be so common that one might be forgiven for thinking that it is deliberate.
COVID-19 VACCINE IDENTIFIED INGREDIENTS
IDENTIFIED INGREDIENTS PFIZER ASTRAZENECA JANSSEN MODERNA Aluminium (Al)YesYesBismuth (Bi)YesCadmium (Cd)YesCalcium (Ca)YesCarbon (C)YesYesChloride (CL-)YesChlorine (Cl in saline solution)YesYesYesYesChromium (Cr)YesYesYesCopper (Cu)YesYesYesGraphene oxideYesYesYesYesIron (Fe)YesYesYesYesLead (Pb)YesMagnesium (Mg)YesManganese (Mn)YesNickel (Ni)YesYesNitrogen (N)YesYesOxygen (O)YesYesPhosphorous (P)YesYesPotassium (K)YesSelenium (Se)YesSilicon (Si)YesYesYesYesSodium (Na in saline solution)YesYesYesYesSulfur (S)YesYesTin (Sn)YesTitanium (Ti)YesYesTrypanosoma (parasite)YesPossibleVanadium (Va)Yes
Source : https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/transmission-electron-microscopy-reveals-graphene-oxide-in-cov-
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,586
9,104
113
The components which do not appear to have been declared include:
Aluminium (Al)
Bismuth (Bi)
Cadmium (Cd)
Chromium (Cr)
Copper (Cu)
Iron (Fe)
Lead (Pb)
Magnesium (Mg)
Manganese (Mn)
Nickel (Ni)
Selenium (Se)
Silicon (Si)
Sulfur (S)
Tin (Sn)
Titanium (Ti)
Vanadium (V)
Graphene oxide (C140H42O20)
…which includes the blood parasite, Trypanosoma cruzi (Chagas disease) or possibly Trypanosoma brucei (African sleeping sickness), as indicated in the most recent MHRA reports (reproduced below) and four VAERS reports. Trypanosoma is composed of carbon, oxygen, chromium, sulphur, aluminium, chloride and nitrogen.
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,586
9,104
113
THE METALS
Most metals exhibit some form of toxicity when injected, but the potential for harm increases exponentially when a human body, containing magnetic or diamagnetic nanoparticles, is placed in the powerful field produced by Magnetic Resonance Imaging equipment.
URGENT WARNING.
We believe MRI scans are causing serious injuries including paralysis in Covid-19 vaccinated patients. Patients are showing clear signs of having magnetised particles within them post-vaccination.
The hypothesis is that magnetised lipid nanoparticles within the patient migrate under the huge magnetic fields used within an MRI causing damage on a nanoscale equivalent to multiple shrapnel wounds.
Source: https://www.notonthebeeb.co.uk/post/gp-urgent-warning

The photo in this tweet is actually of a Canon Aquilion RX CT scanner.
PATHOLOGY REPORTS
More confirmation of metals and a whole slew of unidentified contaminants have been found in both the vaccines and in the blood and organs of vaccinated patients and corpses in Germany and Austria. A growing network of dozens (possibly hundreds) of doctors and pathologists are starting to independently carry out the pharmacovigilance research which the vaccine manufacturers and governments have (criminally) neglected to do:
On Monday, 20 September, 2021, At the pathological institute in Reutlingen, the results of the autopsies of eight people who died after COVID19 vaccination were presented. The fine tissue analyses were performed by pathologists Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt and Prof. Dr. Walter Lang. The findings confirm Prof. Dr. Peter Schirmacher’s finding that among more than 40 corpses he autopsied who had died within two weeks of COVID19 vaccination, approximately one-third of those deaths were caused by the vaccination. Microscopic details of the tissue changes were shown during the live-streamed press conference. Prof. Dr. Werner Bergholz will report on the current parameters of the statistical recording of vaccination events.
The press conference also presented the results of the analysis of COVID-19 vaccine samples by an Austrian research group, which are consistent with the findings of scientists from Japan and the USA. Undeclared metal-containing components were found in the vaccine. Visually, the vaccine elements are conspicuous by their unusual shape.
The results of the investigation have led to legal and political demands, for example, for the immediate collection of information by the authorities in order to be able to assess the health risk posed to the population by the COVID-19 vaccines. For example, early signals of impaired fertility in vaccinated individuals can be examined by consulting IVF registries. Through the cancer registry, insights can be gained into the development of cancer due to the genetic modifications of the viral RNA.
Suspension of COVID-19 vaccination should be considered.
Source : https://pathologie-konferenz.de/en/
Video : https://rumble.com/vmxiwd-covid-19-vaccines-undeclared-ingredients-german.html (with poor machine-translated English subtitles only at this time).​
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
COVID-19 VACCINE INGREDIENTS
Published :August 31, 2021•Updated :September 25, 2021
This information is being suppressed. Please share and download a PDF copy.
INTRODUCTION
On 20 August 2021 Dr. Robert Young published his team’s findings after analysing the four dominant COVID-19 “vaccines” using Phase Contrast Microscopy, Transmission and Scanning Electron Microscopy and Energy-Dispersive X-ray Spectroscopy. Their findings both confirm and expand upon the prior investigations carried out by Dr. Pablo Campra (University of Almeria, Spain), Dr. Juan F. Gastón Añaños (Hospital de Barbastro, Spain), as well as the recent pathology reports from autopsies of vaccinated deceased which were carried out by Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt, Prof. Dr. Walter Lang and Prof. Dr. Peter Schirmacher (Germany & Austria).
Many of these substances were observed as being bonded to graphene oxide and metallic nanoparticles. GO nanoparticles are necrotic, able to pass into or through physiological barriers including (but not limited to) the blood-air barrier, the blood-testis barrier, the blood-brain barrier, and the blood-placenta barrier. Over a period of several months after intramuscular injection, as much as 75% of the GO nanoparticle “delivery platform”, and most of the substances listed below, are transported extensively throughout the bodies of mammals, into the blood, brain and other organs. Some of the many toxic effects of graphene oxide are myocarditis and blood clotting. Contamination in vaccines appears to be so common that one might be forgiven for thinking that it is deliberate.
COVID-19 VACCINE IDENTIFIED INGREDIENTS
IDENTIFIED INGREDIENTS PFIZER ASTRAZENECA JANSSEN MODERNA Aluminium (Al)YesYesBismuth (Bi)YesCadmium (Cd)YesCalcium (Ca)YesCarbon (C)YesYesChloride (CL-)YesChlorine (Cl in saline solution)YesYesYesYesChromium (Cr)YesYesYesCopper (Cu)YesYesYesGraphene oxideYesYesYesYesIron (Fe)YesYesYesYesLead (Pb)YesMagnesium (Mg)YesManganese (Mn)YesNickel (Ni)YesYesNitrogen (N)YesYesOxygen (O)YesYesPhosphorous (P)YesYesPotassium (K)YesSelenium (Se)YesSilicon (Si)YesYesYesYesSodium (Na in saline solution)YesYesYesYesSulfur (S)YesYesTin (Sn)YesTitanium (Ti)YesYesTrypanosoma (parasite)YesPossibleVanadium (Va)Yes
Source : https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/transmission-electron-microscopy-reveals-graphene-oxide-in-cov-
We know FORBES is Conservative and backs the Republican Party!

Here is their APPROVED Article concerning this Topic:

Covid-19 Vaccines Can't Alter Your DNA, Here's Why - Forbes
https://www.forbes.com › victoriaforster › 2021/01/11

Jan 11, 2021 — A common myth circulating on social media sites falsely claims that the mRNA vaccines against the Covid-19 coronavirus can change DNA.


So, even RIGHT WINGED MEDIA knows that mRNA cannot [change] someones DNA!
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
The components which do not appear to have been declared include:
Aluminium (Al)
Bismuth (Bi)
Cadmium (Cd)
Chromium (Cr)
Copper (Cu)
Iron (Fe)
Lead (Pb)
Magnesium (Mg)
Manganese (Mn)
Nickel (Ni)
Selenium (Se)
Silicon (Si)
Sulfur (S)
Tin (Sn)
Titanium (Ti)
Vanadium (V)
Graphene oxide (C140H42O20)
…which includes the blood parasite, Trypanosoma cruzi (Chagas disease) or possibly Trypanosoma brucei (African sleeping sickness), as indicated in the most recent MHRA reports (reproduced below) and four VAERS reports. Trypanosoma is composed of carbon, oxygen, chromium, sulphur, aluminium, chloride and nitrogen.
We know FORBES is Conservative and backs the Republican Party!

Here is their APPROVED Article concerning this Topic:

Covid-19 Vaccines Can't Alter Your DNA, Here's Why - Forbes
https://www.forbes.com › victoriaforster › 2021/01/11

Jan 11, 2021 — A common myth circulating on social media sites falsely claims that the mRNA vaccines against the Covid-19 coronavirus can change DNA.


So, even RIGHT WINGED MEDIA knows that mRNA cannot [change] someones DNA!
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
THE METALS
Most metals exhibit some form of toxicity when injected, but the potential for harm increases exponentially when a human body, containing magnetic or diamagnetic nanoparticles, is placed in the powerful field produced by Magnetic Resonance Imaging equipment.
URGENT WARNING.​
We believe MRI scans are causing serious injuries including paralysis in Covid-19 vaccinated patients. Patients are showing clear signs of having magnetised particles within them post-vaccination.​
The hypothesis is that magnetised lipid nanoparticles within the patient migrate under the huge magnetic fields used within an MRI causing damage on a nanoscale equivalent to multiple shrapnel wounds.​

The photo in this tweet is actually of a Canon Aquilion RX CT scanner.
PATHOLOGY REPORTS
More confirmation of metals and a whole slew of unidentified contaminants have been found in both the vaccines and in the blood and organs of vaccinated patients and corpses in Germany and Austria. A growing network of dozens (possibly hundreds) of doctors and pathologists are starting to independently carry out the pharmacovigilance research which the vaccine manufacturers and governments have (criminally) neglected to do:
On Monday, 20 September, 2021, At the pathological institute in Reutlingen, the results of the autopsies of eight people who died after COVID19 vaccination were presented. The fine tissue analyses were performed by pathologists Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt and Prof. Dr. Walter Lang. The findings confirm Prof. Dr. Peter Schirmacher’s finding that among more than 40 corpses he autopsied who had died within two weeks of COVID19 vaccination, approximately one-third of those deaths were caused by the vaccination. Microscopic details of the tissue changes were shown during the live-streamed press conference. Prof. Dr. Werner Bergholz will report on the current parameters of the statistical recording of vaccination events.​
The press conference also presented the results of the analysis of COVID-19 vaccine samples by an Austrian research group, which are consistent with the findings of scientists from Japan and the USA. Undeclared metal-containing components were found in the vaccine. Visually, the vaccine elements are conspicuous by their unusual shape.​
The results of the investigation have led to legal and political demands, for example, for the immediate collection of information by the authorities in order to be able to assess the health risk posed to the population by the COVID-19 vaccines. For example, early signals of impaired fertility in vaccinated individuals can be examined by consulting IVF registries. Through the cancer registry, insights can be gained into the development of cancer due to the genetic modifications of the viral RNA.​
Suspension of COVID-19 vaccination should be considered.​
Video : https://rumble.com/vmxiwd-covid-19-vaccines-undeclared-ingredients-german.html (with poor machine-translated English subtitles only at this time).​
We know FORBES is Conservative and backs the Republican Party!

Here is their APPROVED Article concerning this Topic:

Covid-19 Vaccines Can't Alter Your DNA, Here's Why - Forbes
https://www.forbes.com › victoriaforster › 2021/01/11

Jan 11, 2021 — A common myth circulating on social media sites falsely claims that the mRNA vaccines against the Covid-19 coronavirus can change DNA.


So, even RIGHT WINGED MEDIA knows that mRNA cannot [change] someones DNA!
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
Bismuth (Bi)
Cadmium (Cd)
Chromium (Cr)
Copper (Cu)
Iron (Fe)
Lead (Pb)
Magnesium (Mg)
Manganese (Mn)
Nickel (Ni)
Selenium (Se)
Silicon (Si)
Sulfur (S)
Tin (Sn)
Titanium (Ti)
Vanadium (V)
Graphene oxide (C140H42O20)


We consume a majority of these by VITAMINS alone EVERY SINGLE DAY and no MAGNET STICKS TO ME!
Much of that list has the SAME ALLOY in all of them and why they must be listed [for ONE ALLOY] and we consume Same Alloy in Zinc, Iron, Magnesium, copper, other phosphates taking [HANDFULS OF VITAMINS PER DAY]!!
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
YES- I DEMAND the Same Alloy in my Vitamins not be in my Vaccine!!
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,586
9,104
113
We know FORBES is Conservative and backs the Republican Party!

Here is their APPROVED Article concerning this Topic:

Covid-19 Vaccines Can't Alter Your DNA, Here's Why - Forbes
https://www.forbes.com › victoriaforster › 2021/01/11

Jan 11, 2021 — A common myth circulating on social media sites falsely claims that the mRNA vaccines against the Covid-19 coronavirus can change DNA.


So, even RIGHT WINGED MEDIA knows that mRNA cannot [change] someones DNA!
What the hell are you talking about?

What does Forbes or the Republican Party have to do with the price of eggs in Istanbul, or the article cited?
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
What the hell are you talking about?

What does Forbes or the Republican Party have to do with the price of eggs in Istanbul, or the article cited?
Because Metal is the only true way to even attempt to manipulate cells by being able to change them.

But, my explanation of the SAME ALLOY is, is the same list as can be found in our daily regiment of Vitamins and other Health Aids [because our bodies are from the Earth/Dust of Earth and its components are helpful to us all Designed by God Himself].

I think some are using this Same Alloy as their Red Herring to CLAIM:
Vax can change DNA, which it cannot and can never never never ever do such because how God designed DNA.

It would literally require a single person at a time for months and years to get all of their Genetics before trying that.
And out of 8 Billion people on Planet Earth, maybe 50 Million max [not even 5% of Total Population] have similar enough Genetics.
Everyone else is different by a couple variations. So, it's impossible to change DNA from a VAX!

Only someone not clearly thinking things through could ever believe as such!!
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
That [Same Alloy] Trick is as equal to:

What stinks?
bad breathe
garbage
dead things
odors
gas stove range/natural gas
passing gas
bad attitude
bad information
cat litter
non-flushed toilet
livestock
flies caught in a bottle trap
a snake after it eats and the digestion can be smelled for a couple of days
price of inflation
price of gas rising



So, there is a Great list of what [STINKS]

But of that list ^, what can actually kill you?

Just a few listed!

BUT, if i want to spread MIS-INFORMATION, because 3 to 4 items are possibly Deadly, I will just FALSELY CLAIM [the entire list must be DEADLY]!
 
P

planitsoon

Guest
Hope you will give us in April 23 an apologize for these baseless claimings. Would be nice.
And hope you survive the virus.
Baseless claims? That's more than funny :) Man, even cognitive reasoning has left the planet. The church has been so hijacked and wussified by the Marxists who have waged their war for over a 150 years now. Which "claims" exactly are you refering to, as I mentioned several things. You also can try and do your own studies and use professional medical websites like PubMed or Google Scholar if you at all are intersted to look beyond main stream media. Yes, there is a whole world out there and you should look into so you can see that there are always two sides of a story. This applies to world history, science and basically anything out there. Victors and those in power always write the narrative and they decided what they want us to be taught and "know" but hide the other side of the story.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.