KJV translators weren't KJV only!

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Dino246

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justbyfaith said:
So, you cannot come to the knowledge of the truth through a singular scripture? You have to have two or three in order for that scripture to be valid?
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“So you’re saying…”

Please locate and watch the Jordan Peterson-Cathy Newman interview so that you understand how flawed this line of discussion is. I’m not going to respond further to your corruptions of my statements.
 
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justbyfaith

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Dino246 said:
No matter should be determined on one verse alone. Further, it is not right to decide which translation has the correct wording on the basis of some aftermarket view.
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It seems to me that if that verse really says that Peter stood condemned, that it settles the issue for me that one can lose his salvation.

But if the kjv is correct in its translation of that verse, and he was merely to be blamed, I find that the matter is still undecided.
 
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justbyfaith

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Dino246 said:
“So you’re saying…”

Please locate and watch the Jordan Peterson-Cathy Newman interview so that you understand how flawed this line of discussion is. I’m not going to respond further to your corruptions of my statements.
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Yes, it appears that you are embarrassed by the position that you have set forth as being your opinion.

Provide a link to the interview; and I may look into it.
 
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John146

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Dino246 said:
That God’s word is truth is established by far more than that one verse.
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All I need is that one verse to know that God's word is truth. Yes, other verses support that doctrine, but only one verse is needed.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth...that one verse is all I need for the truth that God created the heaven and the earth. Other verses support this truth, but the doctrine is found in one verse.
 
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John146 said:
How do we know what the original ten commandments really say, if not for the copy, which is included in scripture?
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Because can tell you
It's the holy spirit the holy spirit is greater then the written word.Its the finger pointing toward heaven,Don't worship the finger.
 
Dino246

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justbyfaith said:
It mentions Easter as a holiday that was celebrated by the early church.

And of course, the doctrine of Easter ties in with the doctrine of the Resurrection; because that is what Easter celebrates.
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All of which is irrelevant, because it assumes the meaning of the word instead of accepting the literal translation.
 
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rayzor said:
Because can tell you
It's the holy spirit the holy spirit is greater then the written word.Its the finger pointing toward heaven,Don't worship the finger.
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Ok, in Luke 10:1, did the Lord send out seventy or seventy two?

What does Matthew 18:11 really say if anything?

In 2 Samuel 21:19, who killed Goliath?
 
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justbyfaith said:
How about Galatians 2:11? the kjv translates it that Peter was to be blamed...whereas another translation says that he stood condemned.

That kind of has a bearing on the issue of OSAS vs. you can lose your salvation as a doctrine.
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That's you or whoever has been teaching you, projecting thier ideas into the passage.
The verses read the same.
 
Dino246

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Ok, in Luke 10:1, did the Lord send out seventy or seventy two?

What does Matthew 18:11 really say if anything?

In 2 Samuel 21:19, who killed Goliath?
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How old was Ahaziah when he became king?

I am saddened that you keep on with these canards and do not have the integrity to apply the same set of standards to the KJV that you use for other translations. You are hypocritical.
 
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Dino246 said:
How old was Ahaziah when he became king?

I am saddened that you keep on with these canards and do not have the integrity to apply the same set of standards to the KJV that you use for other translations. You are hypocritical.
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This has been explained many times. Did you come up with this or are you repeating what you found on the internet?
 
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John146

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A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.
 
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Dino246 said:
How old was Ahaziah when he became king?

I am saddened that you keep on with these canards and do not have the integrity to apply the same set of standards to the KJV that you use for other translations. You are hypocritical.
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You have three fingers pointing back at you (Matthew 7:1-5, Luke 6:41-42).
 
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Lucy-Pevensie said:
That's you or whoever has been teaching you, projecting thier ideas into the passage.
The verses read the same.
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The person who spoke of this was not my teacher. I was actually contending with him for the doctrine of POTS.

But it should be clear that if Peter stood condemned, either he was never saved in the first place (Peter, the apostle?) or else he lost his salvation for a moment; and a person can go in and out of salvation.
 
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Dino246 said:
How old was Ahaziah when he became king?

I am saddened that you keep on with these canards and do not have the integrity to apply the same set of standards to the KJV that you use for other translations. You are hypocritical.
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The simple solution to this apparent contradiction is that Ahaziah was physically 22 years old when he began to reign, but since God has appointed Jehu to cut off the house of Ahab, as a son of Ahab through marriage, he was 42 years old. The information is all there in the texts to the student of the word.
 
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Gal 2:11 (kjv), But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

Gal 2:11 (ESV), But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.
 
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