Matthew 22:37-40 and applying it today?

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BillG

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Joh_14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
That wasn't said in the last supper.
You know the post I responded to below and asked for verse

You haven't quoted it either.


At the last supper, Jesus asked his disciples/apostles, and I paraphrase, 'How can you say you love me if you don't obey my commandments.
 

Nehemiah6

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What churches are you talking about that find something wrong with it? Most churches I know of stress the importance of love. The only problem I'm aware of is modern churches that teach love to the exclusion of other important doctrines.
I would agree. Too many churches fail to maintain the proper balance in providing THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD. Which means that the character of God and Christ must also be presented in its fulness. God is love, but God is also a jealous God, and will not give His glory to any other. Christ is God, not just the Son of God, and He is also the coming Judge.

And the full and true Gospel must be preached rather than a watered-down version. The first words from both John the Baptist, Christ, and Peter were "repent and be converted".

But there is no doubt that the Law of Agape Love is central and essential to Christianity and Christians. Not an easy thing to do by any means. But it also includes "tough love" (discipling and discipline).

1 THESSALONIANS 5: PUTTING ON THE BREASTPLATE OF FAITH AND LOVE
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
12 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;
13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
16 Rejoice evermore.
17 Pray without ceasing.
18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
19 Quench not the Spirit.
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
 

Justified

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That wasn't said in the last supper.
You know the post I responded to below and asked for verse

You haven't quoted it either.
>>At the last supper, Jesus asked his disciples/apostles, and I paraphrase, 'How can you say you love me if you don't obey my commandments. <<

Yes, you asked for the verse and when I showed Joh 14:15 you said it is not a quote. Of which his words or of the bible?

Also when you said >>That wasn't said in the last supper.<< you were wrong.
Joh 13:1 Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that His hour had come that He should depart from this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.
Joh 13:2 And supper being ended, the devil having already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray Him,
Joh 13:5 After that, He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded.
Washing of their feet was done in upper room
Joh 13:21 When Jesus had said these things, He was troubled in spirit, and testified and said, "Most assuredly, I say to you, one of you will betray Me."
Judas was to betray Him
Joh 13:27 Now after the piece of bread, Satan entered him. Then Jesus said to him, "What you do, do quickly."
Judas went to betray Christ Jesus

Start of the Upper Room Discourse
Joh 13:31 So, when he had gone out, Jesus said, "Now the Son of Man is glorified, and God is glorified in Him.
Joh 14:15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.

The High Priestly Prayer. This was done by Christ Jesus in the upper room

Betrayal and Arrest of Jesus
Joh 18:1 When Jesus had spoken these words, He went out with His disciples over the Brook Kidron, where there was a garden, which He and His disciples entered.

Note that after Christ Jesus had finished speaking that was when they left the upper room and went to the garden where Christ was betrayed.

So the verse that I posted was indeed spoken in the upper room at the last supper by Christ Jesus and it fits with the paraphrase.
 

BillG

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>>At the last supper, Jesus asked his disciples/apostles, and I paraphrase, 'How can you say you love me if you don't obey my commandments. <<

Yes, you asked for the verse and when I showed Joh 14:15 you said it is not a quote. Of which his words or of the bible?

Also when you said >>That wasn't said in the last supper.<< you were wrong.
Joh 13:1 Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that His hour had come that He should depart from this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.
Joh 13:2 And supper being ended, the devil having already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray Him,
Joh 13:5 After that, He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded.
Washing of their feet was done in upper room
Joh 13:21 When Jesus had said these things, He was troubled in spirit, and testified and said, "Most assuredly, I say to you, one of you will betray Me."
Judas was to betray Him
Joh 13:27 Now after the piece of bread, Satan entered him. Then Jesus said to him, "What you do, do quickly."
Judas went to betray Christ Jesus

Start of the Upper Room Discourse
Joh 13:31 So, when he had gone out, Jesus said, "Now the Son of Man is glorified, and God is glorified in Him.
Joh 14:15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.

The High Priestly Prayer. This was done by Christ Jesus in the upper room

Betrayal and Arrest of Jesus
Joh 18:1 When Jesus had spoken these words, He went out with His disciples over the Brook Kidron, where there was a garden, which He and His disciples entered.

Note that after Christ Jesus had finished speaking that was when they left the upper room and went to the garden where Christ was betrayed.

So the verse that I posted was indeed spoken in the upper room at the last supper by Christ Jesus and it fits with the paraphrase.
Thank you.