VACCINE CULT?

[JohnDB]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
Just toggle the "total cases per one mill population" header to see the percentage of people sick around you.

 

[ZNP]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
Just toggle the "total cases per one mill population" header to see the percentage of people sick around you.

That is your data! Are you kidding? People sick does not mean hospitalized. I want to see the data that shows that hospitals are all filled to beyond capacity nationwide.

80% of people who tested positive for covid had no symptoms. They say Delta variant is even less deadly.

In this environment of fear mongering if Hospitals were overflowing it would be all over the news. If it can't breathe it leads.

 

[JohnDB]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/04/fac...s-identity-ahead-of-60-minutes-interview.html.

And the violent, polarizing content that is antivaxxer is making Facebook money...

 

[Roughsoul1991]

They are extremely minor...they aren't the major issues...just another straw on the camel's back...an excuse offered up to obfuscate the truth.

They know verbatim the proof of vaccines in an epidemic...

Epidemiology didn't just get invented. Epidemiology, immunology, and virology are part of every medical research university. They know exactly the important role of vaccines in an epidemic. Even if the vaccines have a small risk of complications in a few people it's better than losing an entire population groups. Which is tantamount to genocide.

So you tell me....what's better. Genocide or losing a few people to the Vaccines? We are talking about 1 out of every 100,000 people or 2,000 dead and another 50,000 permanently disabled and possibly up to 80,000 steralized or only capable of giving birth defects to offspring...which will eventually become genocide of a population group. Because that's the numbers we are looking at. You might not like it or want to discount it...but until a better alternative is discovered that's all we got and those are the real numbers we are looking at. What do you choose?

Genocide? Lol really. You must have forgotten the fatality rate of dying from Covid-19 is still extremely low.

I'm not anti vaccine so do not confuse me with that crowd. I'm pro choice in vaccines. Especially with a vaccine that by your numbers may cause 2,000 dead and another 50,000 permanently disabled and possibly up to 80,000 steralized.

It should be a choice.

 

[JohnDB]

Genocide? Lol really. You must have forgotten the fatality rate of dying from Covid-19 is still extremely low.

I'm not anti vaccine so do not confuse me with that crowd. I'm pro choice in vaccines. Especially with a vaccine that by your numbers may cause 2,000 dead and another 50,000 permanently disabled and possibly up to 80,000 steralized.

It should be a choice.

No...those are the virus morbidity and injury rates out of 100,000...

The vaccine only hurts maybe one out of a hundred thousand. (If it's even that high)

Look at the stats on Worldometer for mortality...they don't have injury rates....those I cobbled together from a research community studying the virus's effects and the various Vaccines effects.

If you were an investor playing the odds... you would go with vaccines every time. Because they work. But the virus is an endocrine system virus... meaning your hormones. Everything from kidneys to thyroid and reproductive system is infected and damaged. People focus on the pulmonary system because it's immediate and necessary for immediate survival. But liver and pancreas are later things to worry about.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

No...thoswwqde ewe@wwwwwaqawwwaare the virus morbidity and injury rates out ofwww!wwwawwwaaqaasqha 100,000...

The vaccine only hurts maybe one out of a hundred thousand. (If it's even that high)

Look at the stats on Worldometer for mortality...they don't have injury rates....those I cobbled together from a research community studying the virus's effects and the various Vaccines effects.

If you were an investor playing the odds... you would go with vaccines every time. Because they work. But the virus is an endocrine system virus... meaning your hormones. Everything from kidneys to thyroid and reproductive system is infected and damaged. People focus on the pulmonary system because it's immediate and necessary for immediate survival. But liver and pancreas are the last things to worry about.

But yet you can never say risk free as to why it should be a choice because you may be that 1 in 100,000 or your child may be that 1. Where as your child is just as rare to have Covid complications. Or for a young adult it is likely they will also handle Covid just fine especially with no underlying health issues. Even my healthy grandmother and grandfather beat Covid with cold like symptoms and no vaccine. But they have always been more of naturalists and the native American spirit of the motto “white man’s medicine is poison”. I never quite agreed but yet in their 80s they are very healthy.

Anyway the point is, you have to weigh the risks. Especially since studies show that natural immunity is in some studies 27x greater than the vaccine.

I as a 30 year old, healthy, have had Covid and natural immunity, see it to be a unnecessary risk to inject my body with a vaccine to mimic what my body already is doing.

Some studies may even suggest vaccine immunity plummets and needs booster shots due to the inability to create a immunity memory response where as natural immunity has been picked up in the bone marrow.

It also shows that a vaccine doesn't create antibodies in the nostrils compared to natural.

If a person’s first exposure to fighting the virus is through the vaccine, the point of entry is through the muscles and not the nose. Which means they still carry a viral load of nearly the same not protecting anyone.

Masks by the studies have proven to be 8% effective for the average surgical masks and 27% effective for the N95.

So Nurses are not helping when being vaccinated regardless. What actually helps is probably the hospitals Air Conditioning and high tech filtering systems.

 

[ZNP]

No...those are the virus morbidity and injury rates out of 100,000...

The vaccine only hurts maybe one out of a hundred thousand. (If it's even that high)

Look at the stats on Worldometer for mortality...they don't have injury rates....those I cobbled together from a research community studying the virus's effects and the various Vaccines effects.

If you were an investor playing the odds... you would go with vaccines every time. Because they work. But the virus is an endocrine system virus... meaning your hormones. Everything from kidneys to thyroid and reproductive system is infected and damaged. People focus on the pulmonary system because it's immediate and necessary for immediate survival. But liver and pancreas are later things to worry about.

I must admit you have the best statistics I have ever seen, the only problem is you don't provide the references for them.

You told me to look at how many people were testing positive for Covid and use that to conclude that every hospital nationwide is operating at 110% to 120% of capacity. Now if that were true it would be very significant, but if it isn't true it proves you cannot be trusted with numbers.

Once again, show us some evidence that all hospitals nationwide are operating at 110% of capacity. Not your inferences, but CDC data, polling of Hospital managers, information from insurance companies, etc.

 

[JohnDB]

But yet you can never say risk free as to why it should be a choice because you may be that 1 in 100,000 or your child may be that 1. Where as your child is just as rare to have Covid complications. Or for a young adult it is likely they will also handle Covid just fine especially with no underlying health issues. Even my healthy grandmother and grandfather beat Covid with cold like symptoms and no vaccine. But they have always been more of naturalists and the native American spirit of the motto “white man’s medicine is poison”. I never quite agreed but yet in their 80s they are very healthy.

Anyway the point is, you have to weigh the risks. Especially since studies show that natural immunity is in some studies 27x greater than the vaccine.

I as a 30 year old, healthy, have had Covid and natural immunity, see it to be a unnecessary risk to inject my body with a vaccine to mimic what my body already is doing.

Some studies may even suggest vaccine immunity plummets and needs booster shots due to the inability to create a immunity memory response where as natural immunity has been picked up in the bone marrow.

It also shows that a vaccine doesn't create antibodies in the nostrils compared to natural.

If a person’s first exposure to fighting the virus is through the vaccine, the point of entry is through the muscles and not the nose. Which means they still carry a viral load of nearly the same not protecting anyone.

Masks by the studies have proven to be 8% effective for the average surgical masks and 27% effective for the N95.

So Nurses are not helping when being vaccinated regardless. What actually helps is probably the hospitals Air Conditioning and high tech filtering systems.

As an electrician who has built several hospitals and research labs...

The air handling is different in infectious wards and floors. These are separate systems requiring specialized instrumentation and controls so infectious air won't mix in with General population air....and is vented out at the roof.

Merk has just come out with an antiviral pill....for Covid.

It being an antiviral, it will have many many more side effects than any vaccine...

And that natural immunity you are currently relying upon is gone after a few months. Repeated infections are a current study by a personal friend. IOW if natural immunity was so wonderful my friend wouldn't have anything to count. As it is she is neck deep in data and cases. I don't know what the current percentage of getting it twice is (I haven't asked and the study isn't finished) ...but that number you spouted is a blatant lie...do not rely on it. You most definitely can catch it again and again. Apparently some people have had it three times...they say that the fourth is a killer. Literally.

 

[ZNP]

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/breakthrough-covid-infections-continue-hamper-congress

12 members of congress test positive for Covid despite all of them being fully vaccinated? I don't think it was this bad when none of them were vaccinated.

 

[ZNP]

No...those are the virus morbidity and injury rates out of 100,000...

The vaccine only hurts maybe one out of a hundred thousand. (If it's even that high)

Look at the stats on Worldometer for mortality...they don't have injury rates....those I cobbled together from a research community studying the virus's effects and the various Vaccines effects.

If you were an investor playing the odds... you would go with vaccines every time. Because they work. But the virus is an endocrine system virus... meaning your hormones. Everything from kidneys to thyroid and reproductive system is infected and damaged. People focus on the pulmonary system because it's immediate and necessary for immediate survival. But liver and pancreas are later things to worry about.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...eaths-last-7-5-months-fully-vaccinated-video/

63% of UK Delta deaths in the last 7.5 months were fully vaccinated

 

[Roughsoul1991]

As an electrician who has built several hospitals and research labs...

The air handling is different in infectious wards and floors. These are separate systems requiring specialized instrumentation and controls so infectious air won't mix in with General population air....and is vented out at the roof.

Merk has just come out with an antiviral pill....for Covid.

It being an antiviral, it will have many many more side effects than any vaccine...

And that natural immunity you are currently relying upon is gone after a few months. Repeated infections are a current study by a personal friend. IOW if natural immunity was so wonderful my friend wouldn't have anything to count. As it is she is neck deep in data and cases. I don't know what the current percentage of getting it twice is (I haven't asked and the study isn't finished) ...but that number you spouted is a blatant lie...do not rely on it. You most definitely can catch it again and again. Apparently some people have had it three times...they say that the fourth is a killer. Literally.

And that natural immunity you are currently relying upon is gone after a few months. Repeated infections are a current study by a personal friend. IOW if natural immunity was so wonderful my friend wouldn't have anything to count. As it is she is neck deep in data and cases. I don't know what the current percentage of getting it twice is (I haven't asked and the study isn't finished) ...but that number you spouted is a blatant lie...do not rely on it. You most definitely can catch it again and again. Apparently some people have had it three times...they say that the fourth is a killer. Literally.

Natural immunity is not gone. Anti bodies drop after a few months but they are finding the memory B and T cells. Which are to create antibodies once a new infection occurs.

The study found that of 19 people who had a mild COVID infection, 15 of them contained-antibody-producing cells, specifically targeting the virus that causes COVID-19."

The cells are present in the bone marrow and constantly secreting antibodies. According to the researchers: “They have been doing that ever since the infection resolved, and they will continue doing that indefinitely."

https://bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/SARS-CoV-2-specific-T-cell immunity.pdf

You misunderstand. You are not immune from getting the infection but have immunity which makes for a less severe infection or none at all if your body defeats it before you feel the symptoms.

It is why AIDS is such an awful killer. It kills the immune system and all the viruses most of us healthy people never even feel start to attack the body.

We still catch the virus but our bodies fight it off.

As for catching it 4 times and dying, I'll have to see hard evidence on that.

but that number you spouted is a blatant lie...do not rely on it.

My numbers do not come from word of mouth but scientific data. Which number are you referring to? Every number listed has came from scientific data.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

As an electrician who has built several hospitals and research labs...

The air handling is different in infectious wards and floors. These are separate systems requiring specialized instrumentation and controls so infectious air won't mix in with General population air....and is vented out at the roof.

Merk has just come out with an antiviral pill....for Covid.

It being an antiviral, it will have many many more side effects than any vaccine...

And that natural immunity you are currently relying upon is gone after a few months. Repeated infections are a current study by a personal friend. IOW if natural immunity was so wonderful my friend wouldn't have anything to count. As it is she is neck deep in data and cases. I don't know what the current percentage of getting it twice is (I haven't asked and the study isn't finished) ...but that number you spouted is a blatant lie...do not rely on it. You most definitely can catch it again and again. Apparently some people have had it three times...they say that the fourth is a killer. Literally.

(Here are the accurate numbers that was not off the top of my head.)

Data

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity:
reinfections versus breakthrough infections

Sivan Gazit, MD MA1,2*; Roei Shlezinger, BA1; Galit Perez, MN MA2; Roni Lotan,
PhD2; Asaf Peretz, MD1,3; Amir Ben-Tov, MD1,4; Dani Cohen, PhD4; Khitam
Muhsen, PhD4; Gabriel Chodick, PhD MHA2,4; Tal Patalon, MD1,2

*Corresponding author.

1
Kahn Sagol Maccabi (KSM) Research & Innovation Center, Maccabi Healthcare Services, Tel Aviv, 68125, Israel.
2
Maccabitech Institute for Research and Innovation, Maccabi Healthcare Services, Israel.
3
Internal Medicine COVID-19 Ward, Samson Assuta Ashdod University Hospital, Ashdod Israel.
4
Sackler Faculty of Medicine, School of Public Health, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv, Israel.

The authors declare they have no conflict of interest.

Funding: There was no external funding for the project.

Results:
SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.

Conclusions:
This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SuARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.

The largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity -- gained from an earlier infection.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...fection-better-than-pfizer-shot?sref=i4qXzk6d

I keep posting this stuff so studies can be compared with the narrative. Also, keep in mind that these low percentages are done in a lab setting with the virus being shot at the mask. The mask also is the correct size for sealing; the mask is not constantly touched, the mask has not been saturated with vapors from breathing, and the mask is new, not reused daily.

An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25903751/

The results show that a standard surgical and three-ply cloth masks, which see current widespread use, filter at apparent efficiencies of only 12.4% and 9.8%, respectively. Apparent efficiencies of 46.3% and 60.2% are found for KN95 and R95 masks, respectively, which are still notably lower than the verified 95% rated ideal efficiencies.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

I want to share studies and research so parents can be informed on the possible dangers of mask use. Remember we also have no long term studies on wearing masks for hours a day.

In a new study published by The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), entitled “Experimental Assessment of Carbon Dioxide Content in Inhaled Air With or Without Face Masks in Healthy Children,” Polish researchers found that within just three minutes, the level of carbon dioxide present in the air being breathed in by school children wearing masks was six times higher than the legal limit of 0.2% carbon dioxide by volume (2,000 parts per million), as set by the German Federal Environmental Office. In open-air settings, CO2 levels are about 0.04% by volume, or 400 parts per million.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309129

It seems to be that masks are only effective when used in professional or controlled lab settings. In the general population within covid surges they did little to no good. Why? Is it because the people would rather risk the virus than wear a mask? Does the general population see it as tool for tyranny? Does the majority of the population wear the wrong masks? Don't properly dispose of them? Don't change or wash them as necessary? Constantly shifting and touching them? Wearing them the wrong way? Can't breath in them?

For some reason the masks by current studies suggest they work but only if worn by a professional, the correct type of mask or in controlled lab setting.

Mask mandate and use efficacy in state-level COVID-19 containment

Damian D. Guerra, Daniel J. Cierra
https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385

Conclusions Mask mandates and use are not associated with slower state-level COVID-19 spread during COVID-19 growth surges. Containment requires future research and implementation of existing efficacious strategies.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1

How effective is a mask in preventing COVID‐19 infection?

Yuxin Wang, Zicheng Deng, and Donglu Shi

Based on these studies, all people, regardless of physical conditions and professions, should wear masks at all times in prevention of COVID‐19.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7883189/

An Israeli case study conducted by researchers at top Ivy League universities appeared to confirm that natural immunity was 27 times more effective than vaccines at preventing symptomatic transmission of the deadly coronavirus.

“This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant,” they wrote, according to medRxiv.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

 

[ZNP]

Just the News is reporting 569,294 adverse event reports associated with the Covid-19 vaccination. October 3, 2021

These are reported on the VAERS system.

 

[ZNP]

Just the News is reporting 569,294 adverse event reports associated with the Covid-19 vaccination. October 3, 2021

These are reported on the VAERS system.

This is just the number of reports, the number of symptoms reported is 2.5 million.

However, both of these numbers still make it relatively rare, however, if you compare it to Covid-19 which also has a relatively rare death rate the numbers are much closer and so it is really essential that we have full and accurate data so that people can make an informed decision as to whether or not the vaccine makes sense for them.

 

[JohnDB]

(Here are the accurate numbers that was not off the top of my head.)

Data

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity:
reinfections versus breakthrough infections

Sivan Gazit, MD MA1,2*; Roei Shlezinger, BA1; Galit Perez, MN MA2; Roni Lotan,
PhD2; Asaf Peretz, MD1,3; Amir Ben-Tov, MD1,4; Dani Cohen, PhD4; Khitam
Muhsen, PhD4; Gabriel Chodick, PhD MHA2,4; Tal Patalon, MD1,2

*Corresponding author.

1
Kahn Sagol Maccabi (KSM) Research & Innovation Center, Maccabi Healthcare Services, Tel Aviv, 68125, Israel.
2
Maccabitech Institute for Research and Innovation, Maccabi Healthcare Services, Israel.
3
Internal Medicine COVID-19 Ward, Samson Assuta Ashdod University Hospital, Ashdod Israel.
4
Sackler Faculty of Medicine, School of Public Health, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv, Israel.

The authors declare they have no conflict of interest.

Funding: There was no external funding for the project.

Results:
SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.

Conclusions:
This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SuARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.

The largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity -- gained from an earlier infection.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...fection-better-than-pfizer-shot?sref=i4qXzk6d

I keep posting this stuff so studies can be compared with the narrative. Also, keep in mind that these low percentages are done in a lab setting with the virus being shot at the mask. The mask also is the correct size for sealing; the mask is not constantly touched, the mask has not been saturated with vapors from breathing, and the mask is new, not reused daily.

An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25903751/

The results show that a standard surgical and three-ply cloth masks, which see current widespread use, filter at apparent efficiencies of only 12.4% and 9.8%, respectively. Apparent efficiencies of 46.3% and 60.2% are found for KN95 and R95 masks, respectively, which are still notably lower than the verified 95% rated ideal efficiencies.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

I want to share studies and research so parents can be informed on the possible dangers of mask use. Remember we also have no long term studies on wearing masks for hours a day.

In a new study published by The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), entitled “Experimental Assessment of Carbon Dioxide Content in Inhaled Air With or Without Face Masks in Healthy Children,” Polish researchers found that within just three minutes, the level of carbon dioxide present in the air being breathed in by school children wearing masks was six times higher than the legal limit of 0.2% carbon dioxide by volume (2,000 parts per million), as set by the German Federal Environmental Office. In open-air settings, CO2 levels are about 0.04% by volume, or 400 parts per million.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309129

It seems to be that masks are only effective when used in professional or controlled lab settings. In the general population within covid surges they did little to no good. Why? Is it because the people would rather risk the virus than wear a mask? Does the general population see it as tool for tyranny? Does the majority of the population wear the wrong masks? Don't properly dispose of them? Don't change or wash them as necessary? Constantly shifting and touching them? Wearing them the wrong way? Can't breath in them?

For some reason the masks by current studies suggest they work but only if worn by a professional, the correct type of mask or in controlled lab setting.

Mask mandate and use efficacy in state-level COVID-19 containment

Damian D. Guerra, Daniel J. Cierra
https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385

Conclusions Mask mandates and use are not associated with slower state-level COVID-19 spread during COVID-19 growth surges. Containment requires future research and implementation of existing efficacious strategies.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1

How effective is a mask in preventing COVID‐19 infection?

Yuxin Wang, Zicheng Deng, and Donglu Shi

Based on these studies, all people, regardless of physical conditions and professions, should wear masks at all times in prevention of COVID‐19.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7883189/

An Israeli case study conducted by researchers at top Ivy League universities appeared to confirm that natural immunity was 27 times more effective than vaccines at preventing symptomatic transmission of the deadly coronavirus.

“This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant,” they wrote, according to medRxiv.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

Yep...
This study was done by the cab driver and not the Janitor.

Use your LinkedIn account to check the names and see for yourself.

And this study has ALL the hallmarks of being phoney...

 

[ZNP]

My wife said a coworker who is pregnant doesn't want to get the vaccine until after she has the baby, they won't let her, if she is fired she loses her health care.

Another woman has Covid and the doctor said that she needs 90 days before giving her the vaccine, they won't hear it, either she gets the vaccine now or she is fired.

 

[JohnDB]

Here's a much more believable reinfection study...
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm

 

[ZNP]

Here's a much more believable reinfection study...
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm

I am still waiting for a believable study to back up your claim that all hospitals are operating at 110% capacity.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Yep...
This study was done by the cab driver and not the Janitor.

Use your LinkedIn account to check the names and see for yourself.

And this study has ALL the hallmarks of being phoney...

Out of 8 studies done by doctors and scientists but you say phoney? I say you didn't read any of them but only what fits into confirmation bias.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

This is just the number of reports, the number of symptoms reported is 2.5 million.

However, both of these numbers still make it relatively rare, however, if you compare it to Covid-19 which also has a relatively rare death rate the numbers are much closer and so it is really essential that we have full and accurate data so that people can make an informed decision as to whether or not the vaccine makes sense for them.

Well many doctors have been threatened to lose their medical license if they speak on what the government considers as misinformation.

Covid deaths have largely been controversial from the start as it was proven to be abused in inflated numbers as hospitals grasped for more government money.

The VAIRS system is a voluntary system where anyone can submit a potential case of vaccine death or complications. Which means no study or investigation, simply the eye witness account.

It doesn't negate the truth but it does leave room for doubt on the certainty of the vaccine being the cause.

So true Covid deaths and true Vaccine complications are unfortunately almost impossible to know.