Vaccination?

[AandW]

If Christians are listening to the News Media, Big Pharma and Big Gov, and then repeating their lying words = there are your satan's helpers.

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. 46Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”

Yep, works Both ways Indeed

Which is why I try my best to do my own research whether it be who I know, what sites I can access that are not set-up for public viewing and knowledge of existence, have my friends and colleagues take my own Cells and we break it down microscope and computer graphic, and anything I read from either side to go and try it out and see if the Claims are legit.

But since we know Paul told us in Romans 13:1-2, that God set-up the Government and to Obey them [which we know unless it is a Command to stop Teaching, Preaching, Discussing, Christ and Him Crucified], and we know the Man of Sin has not been Revealed nor the Beast to Worship and take his Number [Right Hand/Forehead] (which a vaccine in the forehead would kill everyone with no one left to worship, shop, buy, bank using his Number)...means, what the Government is saying, "is more valid than the False Propaganda which has been Proven Wrong anyways!"

 

[Anthony55]

Sent one wrong

What is your plan to combat the negative effects of what's in you?

All I can do is give it to God. He created everything and if He want to heal He will. My eyes have been opened to what's going on and that's a plus. He has blinded Satan's seed to the truth from the beginning. God is the same forever and ever. I never signed up for Christian Chat for such controversy or character assassination. I signed up for fellowship to find Brothers and Sisters who are like minded to share the truth of the gospel to be one with. But as in every church you will have Tares that will tear apart the very fabric of what we believe. Ironically in Jesus's name. By their fruits you will know them that is because they cant help themselves. I am 66years old and am not worried for what comes tomorrow. Even tho I know that there is a storm coming and it's just going to get worse.

Gods Blessings

 

[Aidan1]

I didn't ask you for your personal opinions and the other red herring additives you keep in your back pocket

if you have nothing to say about the FACTUAL DATA I posted, then I guess you have nothing to say

Well, as I said, you should not read only the antivaxx supporting papers.
If you will judge the vaccine fair, you have also to read the Provaxx supporting papers.
But the way your expression, this is not your goal. For you seems to me any provaxxer an enemy.
That the vaccine works proofes me the number of my country. 90% unvaxxed people on intensiv ward says enough in my eyes.

 

[John146]

That the vaccine works proofes me the number of my country. 90% unvaxxed people on intensiv ward says enough in my eyes.

Question, if an unvaccinated person goes to the hospital for heart problems, is that person counted in the numbers? Or is he solely counted as a heart patient?

 

[Aidan1]

Question, if an unvaccinated person goes to the hospital for heart problems, is that person counted in the numbers? Or is he solely counted as a heart patient?

When he enters our hospital he will be testet about Covid. If he is testet covid negative. There is no reason for to count him as covidpatient.
If he is testet covid positive, he will come in isolation and the diagnostic will reveal if the heart problems are there because of the covidinfection, or is there anothere cause for it.

 

[gb9]

When he enters our hospital he will be testet about Covid. If he is testet covid negative. There is no reason for to count him as covidpatient.
If he is testet covid positive, he will come in isolation and the diagnostic will reveal if the heart problems are there because of the covidinfection, or is there anothere cause for it.

so, if someone has a heart condition, and tests positive for covid ,the hospital assumes it could be because of covid.

if someone has a heart condition, and has been vaccinated, then the hospital assumes and would probably say the vax had nothing to do with it.

what a joke the medical industry is. how in bed with big pharma...

 

[shittim]

just another scam industry, and I suppose the covid test is the phony pcr test.......

 

[eternally-gratefull]

When he enters our hospital he will be testet about Covid. If he is testet covid negative. There is no reason for to count him as covidpatient.
If he is testet covid positive, he will come in isolation and the diagnostic will reveal if the heart problems are there because of the covidinfection, or is there anothere cause for it.

I am not sure how they could tell.

What if it was neither. it is all a guessing game by now. The only way they could really tell is if there was a test of the heart done prior to covid or vaccine and that test showed no troubles.

Otherwise. you can;t tell if it is new. or old. or what caused it.

I know my sister in law went to see her doctor after a severe case of Covid. And she had heart damage.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

so, if someone has a heart condition, and tests positive for covid ,the hospital assumes it could be because of covid.

if someone has a heart condition, and has been vaccinated, then the hospital assumes and would probably say the vax had nothing to do with it.

what a joke the medical industry is. how in bed with big pharma...

I would hope the second is false. If someone goes in with a heart condition. all things should be on the table. including the vax

 

[eternally-gratefull]

just another scam industry, and I suppose the covid test is the phony pcr test.......

if it was so phony everyone would test positive. that's not the case.

 

[gb9]

if it was so phony everyone would test positive. that's not the case.

and that is the mindset-

so, because the p c r test does produce some false positives, some people say that EVERY test is false positive..

overreaction , big time.

 

[shittim]

Creator of the pcr test stated it was NEVER intended to diagnose anything.

 

[Aidan1]

so, if someone has a heart condition, and tests positive for covid ,the hospital assumes it could be because of covid.

if someone has a heart condition, and has been vaccinated, then the hospital assumes and would probably say the vax had nothing to do with it.

what a joke the medical industry is. how in bed with big pharma...

This is not correct! If someone is coming into the hospital and is unvaccined. This was the question.
I dont know how it is in your country. In my country if a patient is coming with unclesr diagnosis it will be searched for the reason in every direction. If the person is unvaccined the cause cant be the vaccine. Right?
If he is vaccined at can also be the vaccine. But this has to find out through proper diagnostic.

 

[Aidan1]

and that is the mindset-

so, because the p c r test does produce some false positives, some people say that EVERY test is false positive..

overreaction , big time.

Every test has the risk to show false results in a certain percentage. F.e. for woman the Sonographie of the breast has also an certain percentage of false results in both ways.
But still it is a Tool to find out cancer.

 

[Aidan1]

and that is the mindset-

so, because the p c r test does produce some false positives, some people say that EVERY test is false positive..

overreaction , big time.

In our hospital we are working since beginning with pcr Tests. The people who had covid where positiv. And those who are not were negativ. This is my small expierience. You can manipulate the result, but no one in a hospital is interested to manipulate the tests. Nobody in the hospital likes covid!

 

[DavidTree]

Yep, works Both ways Indeed

Which is why I try my best to do my own research whether it be who I know, what sites I can access that are not set-up for public viewing and knowledge of existence, have my friends and colleagues take my own Cells and we break it down microscope and computer graphic, and anything I read from either side to go and try it out and see if the Claims are legit.

But since we know Paul told us in Romans 13:1-2, that God set-up the Government and to Obey them [which we know unless it is a Command to stop Teaching, Preaching, Discussing, Christ and Him Crucified], and we know the Man of Sin has not been Revealed nor the Beast to Worship and take his Number [Right Hand/Forehead] (which a vaccine in the forehead would kill everyone with no one left to worship, shop, buy, bank using his Number)...means, what the Government is saying, "is more valid than the False Propaganda which has been Proven Wrong anyways!"

You are speaking from Romans 13 but not correctly understanding what the Apostle said concerning Governing/Government.

Please read carefully

Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will [a]bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4For he is God’s minister to you for good.
But if you do evil, be afraid;
for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

If you want to obey God, then you must disobey evil - no matter where it comes from.
Just as it says in Romans 13 and in the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution

 

[John146]

When he enters our hospital he will be testet about Covid. If he is testet covid negative. There is no reason for to count him as covidpatient.
If he is testet covid positive, he will come in isolation and the diagnostic will reveal if the heart problems are there because of the covidinfection, or is there anothere cause for it.

One would think, but I know that many hospitals are labeling such patients as unvaxxers filling up their beds.

 

[John146]

In our hospital we are working since beginning with pcr Tests. The people who had covid where positiv. And those who are not were negativ. This is my small expierience. You can manipulate the result, but no one in a hospital is interested to manipulate the tests. Nobody in the hospital likes covid!

And furthermore, the vaccinated patients that come in with heart problems, and test positive for covid, they are counted as heart patients not covid patients....to keep that narrative.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

and that is the mindset-

so, because the p c r test does produce some false positives, some people say that EVERY test is false positive..

overreaction , big time.

When your looking for something, You will find it every time

 

[eternally-gratefull]

In our hospital we are working since beginning with pcr Tests. The people who had covid where positiv. And those who are not were negativ. This is my small expierience. You can manipulate the result, but no one in a hospital is interested to manipulate the tests. Nobody in the hospital likes covid!

we have a coworker who came back negative a few days ago. He called this morning. He lost his taste and smell last night.

We have a coworkers wife who tested negative multiple times. Before she came back positive.

To many variables for it to be perfect. tpo many false negatives in my view.. But is still better than the quick test.. Which is far less reliable.

Its why I chose the PCR test and it came back positive