Epidemic of childless and miserable 40+ women

[Nehemiah6]

1st off what is the RCC?

The Roman Catholic Church (RCC) called "the Western church" below, demands celibacy in order for someone to become a Catholic priest. See the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia for the full article below. "The Sacrament of Orders" means the Catholic priesthood (called "Holy Orders" by them).

Celibacy is the renunciation of marriage implicitly or explicitly made, for the more perfect observance of chastity, by all those who receive the Sacrament of Orders in any of the higher grades. The character of this renunciation, as we shall see, is differently understood in the Eastern and in the Western Church. Speaking, for the moment, only of Western Christendom, the candidates for orders are solemnly warned by the bishop at the beginning of the ceremony regarding the gravity of the obligation which they are incurring. He tells them:...

Now what does Scripture say about celibacy in 1 Timothy 4:1-3? Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Forbidding to marry = "the renunciation of marriage"
Doctrines of devils = the teachings of demons (Satan being the chief instigator)

How do we know that this is a demonic teaching? Because Catholic priests and bishops in huge numbers for ages have been found guilty of sexual offences, and have been protected by their hierarchy. Had these men been lawfully married (as required by Scripture) many sexual crimes could have been avoided.

 

[Dymes]

The Roman Catholic Church (RCC) called "the Western church" below, demands celibacy in order for someone to become a Catholic priest. See the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia for the full article below. "The Sacrament of Orders" means the Catholic priesthood (called "Holy Orders" by them).

Celibacy is the renunciation of marriage implicitly or explicitly made, for the more perfect observance of chastity, by all those who receive the Sacrament of Orders in any of the higher grades. The character of this renunciation, as we shall see, is differently understood in the Eastern and in the Western Church. Speaking, for the moment, only of Western Christendom, the candidates for orders are solemnly warned by the bishop at the beginning of the ceremony regarding the gravity of the obligation which they are incurring. He tells them:...

Now what does Scripture say about celibacy in 1 Timothy 4:1-3? Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Forbidding to marry = "the renunciation of marriage"
Doctrines of devils = the teachings of demons (Satan being the chief instigator)

How do we know that this is a demonic teaching? Because Catholic priests and bishops in huge numbers for ages have been found guilty of sexual offences, and have been protected by their hierarchy. Had these men been lawfully married (as required by Scripture) many sexual crimes could have been avoided.

Thanks for educating me on RCC. I don't think you are using 1 Tim 4 correctly, but for brevity's sake I won't dig into that. Perhaps we can just agree to disagree. Here's my take on celibacy.

11 But he said to them, "Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given. 12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it." - Mathew 19:11-12

Eunuch - castrated person, or one who voluntarily abstains from marriage.

Given the context of Matthew 19, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the definition of a eunuch in this chapter is one who abstains from marriage. But if anyone wants to say he's castrated that's fine, but he still technically has to abstain from marriage lol Jesus says you can abstain marriage (be celibate) for the sake of the kingdom. Now if it's for the sake of the kingdom how can it be an abomination?

6 Now as a concession, not a command, I say this.[1] 7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. 8 To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am. 9 But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion - 1 Corinthians 7:6-9

Now in verse 7 Paul speaks of celibacy or singleness as a gift. If it is considered a gift to some, how could it be an abomination? Then in verse 8 he says it is good to remain single. If singleness is good, how can celibacy be considered an abomination?

 

[Kireina]

Waiting sounds good when you expect to get what you desire. But if you find yourself at the end of your life alone, will waiting still be worth it? Will you be content if God doesn't give you a husband?

Waiting on God is worth it...we would never go wrong to wait on God...even if it feels like it's been forever...even if the husband to be won't come in my life...


There would be moments and seasons of loneliness... where I would wonder what does it feel like to have someone beside me...what does it feel like to have someone i can call my husband... but I believe that God's grace is sufficient to cover everything...Wherever He leads Whatever situation where I would be in the future... ...I know that I can still rejoice because I have Him...

 

[saintrose]

More and more people i know are deciding to live a full life without having a family or a partner.
Naturally they have challenges and quieter days.
But, overall, they seems to be way happier than those in a relationship or with children. They also seem to be more willing to do volunteering and keep themselves in great shape by attending more sports events.
Society seems to think it is ok to comment on women's bodies and life choices in a very patronizing way.

I would not want to be raising children today. There is too much bad happening. That said - I just read of a woman judge in Tennessee who sentenced children as young as 7 to jail. My guess is the frustrated (bleep) never had her own children and is taking out her frustrations on those who have.

 

[saintrose]

Waiting on God is worth it...we would never go wrong to wait on God...even if it feels like it's been forever...even if the husband to be won't come in my life...


There would be moments and seasons of loneliness... where I would wonder what does it feel like to have someone beside me...what does it feel like to have someone i can call my husband... but I believe that God's grace is sufficient to cover everything...Wherever He leads Whatever situation where I would be in the future... ...I know that I can still rejoice because I have Him...

Have you thought of going on a Christian dating site? You sound like you have a good heart - some lucky man is missing out on you!

 

[saintrose]

I haven't read through all the comments so I don't know how much this has been addressed but a common thread is menopause.

I watched as my wife's personality changed when she started going through it. Up to that point we got along great. But then she went from someone I could talk to and joke around with to being offended by almost everything I said including when I complimented her. I was basically blamed for her perceived unhappiness.

It wasn't until after I went through the hell of divorce that I did a little research into menopause and wasn't surprised to read that a lot of 40 something divorces are related to menopause. I think society tends to ignore the negative effects it has on marriages and is happy with blaming men for almost all marital problems.

Tell her to take Pregnenolone/Dhea. It supplies the missing hormones. I hope then maybe you can reconcile.

 

[MatthewWestfieldUK]

I would not want to be raising children today. There is too much bad happening. That said - I just read of a woman judge in Tennessee who sentenced children as young as 7 to jail. My guess is the frustrated (bleep) never had her own children and is taking out her frustrations on those who have.

Can't let others scsre us into not living. Often pregnancy is not planned anyway

 

[saintrose]

As a woman over 40 that’s childless, I will say my number one feeling is usually a sense of freedom! I never feel misery, but sometimes I question myself as a woman and Christian, since I’ve reached this age without having had a baby. I honestly prefer raising cats over human kids at this point. I also really prefer my freedom.

As for your family member, it sounds like she has other issues. Why don’t you share with her lovingly how her behavior makes you feel.

Parenting is hard and if you're happy then that's great. I don't think parenting is for everyone. However, I have seen some women who never had children seem to like to stick it to those who have.

Re my sister: I tried. She continually blamed me and went beyond what I told her to do. She kept contacting my children after causing horrendous trouble. She upset my daughter-in-law by emailing, texting, and calling her trashing me. It was insane. I told her to get help. Finally after continuing to contact MY family I told her I would call police if she bothered them again. She finally stopped.

I think satan tempted her to cause trouble - she's an unbeliever. But she still made the choices. She didn't want to discuss it - she wanted to blame me for HER issues. I have too much on my plate to put up with that and had to write her off. It hurts but I don't see that I had much of a choice.

 

[saintrose]

Can't let others scsre us into not living. Often pregnancy is not planned anyway

True. It's just when you see what's going on in the schools - the illuminati have complete control of the education system and are teaching the LGBT agenda and white guilt. I think the police are abusing blacks - and whites, yellows, pinks, blues...and it's causing a race issue.

POLICE ABUSE MUST STOP BEFORE A RACE WAR. IF YOU KNOW A COP WARN THEM TO STOP AND HAVE FELLOW OFFICERS STOP.

 

[saintrose]

The Roman Catholic Church (RCC) called "the Western church" below, demands celibacy in order for someone to become a Catholic priest. See the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia for the full article below. "The Sacrament of Orders" means the Catholic priesthood (called "Holy Orders" by them).

Celibacy is the renunciation of marriage implicitly or explicitly made, for the more perfect observance of chastity, by all those who receive the Sacrament of Orders in any of the higher grades. The character of this renunciation, as we shall see, is differently understood in the Eastern and in the Western Church. Speaking, for the moment, only of Western Christendom, the candidates for orders are solemnly warned by the bishop at the beginning of the ceremony regarding the gravity of the obligation which they are incurring. He tells them:...

Now what does Scripture say about celibacy in 1 Timothy 4:1-3? Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Forbidding to marry = "the renunciation of marriage"
Doctrines of devils = the teachings of demons (Satan being the chief instigator)

How do we know that this is a demonic teaching? Because Catholic priests and bishops in huge numbers for ages have been found guilty of sexual offences, and have been protected by their hierarchy. Had these men been lawfully married (as required by Scripture) many sexual crimes could have been avoided.

Wow. Thanks for that verse - I never made the connection to celibacy of priests. I've been learning that the Catholic church is the whore of Babylon. Coming out of being raised Catholic was an eye-opener. I left the Catholic church years ago but am just now learning what it truly is.

 

[MatthewWestfieldUK]

True. It's just when you see what's going on in the schools - the illuminati have complete control of the education system and are teaching the LGBT agenda and white guilt. I think the police are abusing blacks - and whites, yellows, pinks, blues...and it's causing a race issue.

POLICE ABUSE MUST STOP BEFORE A RACE WAR. IF YOU KNOW A COP WARN THEM TO STOP AND HAVE FELLOW OFFICERS STOP.

U covered so much in few words. Have you been writing regularly? Like in press?

 

[saintrose]

U covered so much in few words. Have you been writing regularly? Like in press?

No. I was a writer in my last job but I do not write for any news source. I am a believer very upset by all I see happening to this country and trying to urge others to act instead of sitting around waiting for the Rapture - which won't come.

 

[MatthewWestfieldUK]

No. I was a writer in my last job but I do not write for any news source. I am a believer very upset by all I see happening to this country and trying to urge others to act instead of sitting around waiting for the Rapture - which won't come.

How do you campaign? World is often focused on money. Also, what inspired u

 

[saintrose]

How do you campaign? World is often focused on money. Also, what inspired u

Unsure what you mean by 'campaign'? If you mean what I personally do: I have contacted legislators - repeatedly - but it has not yielded results. I have printed materials and leave them around to try to awaken the sleeping masses. It is only if we act as a large group that anything will change. I talk to as many people as I can. I treat others with respect and kindness. I just dealt with a seller who was shocked that I was honest. He said no one is anymore. We have to be the change we want to see in the world.

What do you personally do? I'd like to know what others are doing or if they're sitting around letting things get worse and not being co-laborers with God.

 

[MatthewWestfieldUK]

Unsure what you mean by 'campaign'? If you mean what I personally do: I have contacted legislators - repeatedly - but it has not yielded results. I have printed materials and leave them around to try to awaken the sleeping masses. It is only if we act as a large group that anything will change. I talk to as many people as I can. I treat others with respect and kindness. I just dealt with a seller who was shocked that I was honest. He said no one is anymore. We have to be the change we want to see in the world.

What do you personally do? I'd like to know what others are doing or if they're sitting around letting things get worse and not being co-laborers with God.

Pm . If u want to discuss politics. But i found that most people are not looking for change. They just need money

 

[proverbs35]

Parenting is hard and if you're happy then that's great. I don't think parenting is for everyone. However, I have seen some women who never had children seem to like to stick it to those who have.

Re my sister: I tried. She continually blamed me and went beyond what I told her to do. She kept contacting my children after causing horrendous trouble. She upset my daughter-in-law by emailing, texting, and calling her trashing me. It was insane. I told her to get help. Finally after continuing to contact MY family I told her I would call police if she bothered them again. She finally stopped.

I think satan tempted her to cause trouble - she's an unbeliever. But she still made the choices. She didn't want to discuss it - she wanted to blame me for HER issues. I have too much on my plate to put up with that and had to write her off. It hurts but I don't see that I had much of a choice.

Based on this comment, it sounds like you had to establish healthy boundaries. That's not the same thing as writing someone off. Continue to pray for her. Boundaries are necessary.

 

[Handyman62]

Tell her to take Pregnenolone/Dhea. It supplies the missing hormones. I hope then maybe you can reconcile.

She vehemently denied she was going through menopause or having any other problems other then me. According to her I was the root of all her unhappiness so why would she listen to me?

 

[saintrose]

Based on this comment, it sounds like you had to establish healthy boundaries. That's not the same thing as writing someone off. Continue to pray for her. Boundaries are necessary.

I actually spoke to a counselor as my sister was causing so much grief and trouble and refused to stop. The counselor echoed your words. She said my sister lacks healthy boundaries. She didn't seem to know where she ended and my family began. I had no choice but to cut her off. It still hurts but she made her bed and now she has to lay in it.

That's where I believe many Christians go wrong. We are not told to forgive others and allow them to encroach in on our lives. Sometimes people have to feel the full effects of their own sin before they correct the things wrong in THEM. I tried the forgiveness route but my sister took it as weakness and kept stepping on me until I went back at her and the corrupt lawyer.

Many pastors erroneously teach forgiveness without repentance on the part of evildoers.

 

[saintrose]

She vehemently denied she was going through menopause or having any other problems other then me. According to her I was the root of all her unhappiness so why would she listen to me?

Women in menopause don't necessarily think clearly due to fluctuating hormones. You can pray for her and maybe God will lift the veil. This life is hard.

 

[Handyman62]

Women in menopause don't necessarily think clearly due to fluctuating hormones. You can pray for her and maybe God will lift the veil. This life is hard.

That ship has sailed.