Do you believe the gospel given to the apostle Paul by Christ ?

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Hann57

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John146 said:
Yep, I agree, never said otherwise.
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Romans 10 Is not the gospel. Read verse 1. Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. Paul was writing about Israel. You are not Israel. They were to call upon the name of the Lord.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

You are not seeing the light of the gospel.
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

When you read the gospel I have shown you 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4. You immediately jump to Romans 10 in your mind.
Romans 10. Is not the gospel. This is simple to understand.
You must believe this gospel to be saved.
 
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Looks like your eyes are wide open and see the folly of pauline only.
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yes I respect and love Paul’s writings they are a benefit to any believer who wants to understand the New Testament . But yes I also understand Paul is a witness and servant of the one true and only Lord and savior .

Paul was and is an apostle and witness of the gospel and is an astounding benefit when he’s taken in with the everlasting gospel and other epistles . What I have found is a cohesiveness in Paul’s epistles and the other epistles that are based upon the foundation and truth of the everlasting gospel

I think when the cohesiveness comes it becomes a really powerful
Witness that scripture is and eas truly always about Christ and the gospel whether Isaiah , Moses , David , Daniel , Ezekiel or whether Peter , Paul ,or John they are all witnessing the same gospel of the same lord
 
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John146

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Hann57 said:
Romans 10 Is not the gospel. Read verse 1. Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. Paul was writing about Israel. You are not Israel. They were to call upon the name of the Lord.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

You are not seeing the light of the gospel.
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

When you read the gospel I have shown you 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4. You immediately jump to Romans 10 in your mind.
Romans 10. Is not the gospel. This is simple to understand.
You must believe this gospel to be saved.
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Dude, what are you talking about? You jump into a conversation without knowing the context. I was explaining how a person needs to hear the gospel Christ in order to BE saved. Yes, the gospel of Jesus Christ is found in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4, how Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day. I am definitely not blind. Read posts before responding. Thanks you.
 
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You must believe Paul's gospel alone for salvation. You cannot add other gospels to Paul's.
The gospel of the kingdom for instance is not our gospel.
The everlasting gospel is not our gospel. It will be preached in the tribulation period.
The gospel God gave to Abraham. Still not our gospel. You need to believe the gospel given to Paul by Christ.
 
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John146

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Hann57 said:
You must believe Paul's gospel alone for salvation. You cannot add other gospels to Paul's.
The gospel of the kingdom for instance is not our gospel.
The everlasting gospel is not our gospel. It will be preached in the tribulation period.
The gospel God gave to Abraham. Still not our gospel. You need to believe the gospel given to Paul by Christ.
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I agree, but you will get a lot of flack for this. People on here will claim you believe that there is more than one gospel unto salvation, not understanding that the word gospel simply means good news. There are several good news messages in the bible. The only gospel unto eternal salvation is the good news, the gospel of Jesus Christ which is the gospel of the grace of God.
 
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Hann57 said:
You must believe Paul's gospel alone for salvation. You cannot add other gospels to Paul's.
The gospel of the kingdom for instance is not our gospel.
The everlasting gospel is not our gospel. It will be preached in the tribulation period.
The gospel God gave to Abraham. Still not our gospel. You need to believe the gospel given to Paul by Christ.
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Paul got saved without that verse

So did i
So did the jailer

Most everyone i know personally did not get saved with a preacher.

Millions do....but not exclusively.
Because muslims are also getting saved with a personal encounter with JESUS,no preacher or verses
See, salvation is not " who has the really really correct verse"

Salvations a person...Jesus.

The real message is actually a person. Not a verse or a doctrine.

I got arrested by Jesus.
No verses.
No doctrine.

As did paul
 
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Paul got saved without that verse

So did i
So did the jailer

Most everyone i know personally did not get saved with a preacher.

Millions do....but not exclusively.
Because muslims are also getting saved with a personal encounter with JESUS,no preacher or verses
See, salvation is not " who has the really really correct verse"

Salvations a person...Jesus.

The real message is actually a person. Not a verse or a doctrine.

I got arrested by Jesus.
No verses.
No doctrine.

As did paul
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I got saved by watching Jesus of Nazareth on TV.
Never went to church before that or read a Bible.
Miracle really because my ancestors were Muslim.
 
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Hann57

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John146 said:
I agree, but you will get a lot of flack for this. People on here will claim you believe that there is more than one gospel unto salvation, not understanding that the word gospel simply means good news. There are several good news messages in the bible. The only gospel unto eternal salvation is the good news, the gospel of Jesus Christ which is the gospel of the grace of God.
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I am not here to please men. I do hope you have believed the gospel given to Paul by Christ. And that is my agenda here so people may be saved. If you are in Christ it would be good for both of us to continue encouraging each other. I can tell you a lot of what I have learned over the years on my journey through life. The greatest event in my life was to hear that Christ died for my sins. It is a long story, but I know it will end well when Christ comes or I pass on to be with the Lord.
 
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Hann57

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Paul got saved without that verse

So did i
So did the jailer

Most everyone i know personally did not get saved with a preacher.

Millions do....but not exclusively.
Because muslims are also getting saved with a personal encounter with JESUS,no preacher or verses
See, salvation is not " who has the really really correct verse"

Salvations a person...Jesus.

The real message is actually a person. Not a verse or a doctrine.

I got arrested by Jesus.
No verses.
No doctrine.

As did paul
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You got told lies.
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 
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Hann57 said:
I am not here to please men. I do hope you have believed the gospel given to Paul by Christ. And that is my agenda here so people may be saved. If you are in Christ it would be good for both of us to continue encouraging each other. I can tell you a lot of what I have learned over the years on my journey through life. The greatest event in my life was to hear that Christ died for my sins. It is a long story, but I know it will end well when Christ comes or I pass on to be with the Lord.
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Good to hear your a brother in Christ. Most people on this thread are saved, but have differences in how the word is taught.
 
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Hann57 said:
You got told lies.
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
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You dont comprehend what is said to you.

Hello????

Pauls CONVERSION.


LOOK IT UP.

NONE OF YOUR VERSES ARE THERE.

THE JAILER....SAME THING.

ME....SAME THING.
 
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Hann57

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Forget arguing. I am showing you scriptures which is the word of God. You need to get saved by believing the gospel given to Paul by Christ. Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures !!! 1 Corinthians 15; 3,4.
 
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Hann57 said:
Forget arguing. I am showing you scriptures which is the word of God. You need to get saved by believing the gospel given to Paul by Christ. Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures !!! 1 Corinthians 15; 3,4.
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You realize everybody know about salvation.

You are saying basically nothing at all.

Your folly is in one dimensional framing of truth.

ANYBODY can clearly see the jailer and paul got saved, THEN CAME YOUR DOCTRINE.

You really think you are/have proved ANYTHING AT ALL.???

But keep deflecting and accusing people you don't know of being lost and without salvation.

I am totally aware of your need to reframe those verses i showed you.
 
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You realize everybody know about salvation.

You are saying basically nothing at all.

Your folly is in one dimensional framing of truth.

ANYBODY can clearly see the jailer and paul got saved, THEN CAME YOUR DOCTRINE...AFTERWARDS

You really think you are/have proved ANYTHING AT ALL.???

But keep deflecting and accusing people you don't know of being lost and without salvation.

I am totally aware of your need to reframe those verses i showed you.IT is DOGMATIC RELIGIOUS IRON FISTED RELIGION. PAUL WASHER AND OTHERS LIKE HIM.
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Hann57 said:
Forget arguing. I am showing you scriptures which is the word of God. You need to get saved by believing the gospel given to Paul by Christ. Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures !!! 1 Corinthians 15; 3,4.
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LOL

I SHOWED YOU WHERE YOU ARE WRONG IN THE BIBLE.

STUCK YOUR NOSE IN IT
 
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Hann57 said:
You are on Ignore for arguing.
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All debates are arguing.

You have failed to defend your position.

You can not go toe to toe.

You can not respond to challenges of your position because , as i have demonstrated, in opposition to any hyper pauline, the word of God, blows that erroneous mess out of the water. Big time.
 
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Mark 4
11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

Is this the same Jesus that hyper paulines say preached a different gospel?
 
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Do you believe the gospel
given to the apostle Paul by Christ ?


I only believe the doctrine of Christ
as given to me by the Spirit of truth
sent to me by Christ.
 
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