Bride of Christ - who is She?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Marilyn

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2021
1,120
244
63
#41
i suggest you read, study and pray the Gospel of John ( even if you have 100x already) - do it again and take notes on everything that speaks of and pertains to marriage - as it was during the days the Lord walked this earth.
PEACE
And, David, to WHOM is the Lord talking to?
 
Jul 23, 2018
12,199
2,775
113
#42
***** ALERT - FALSEHOOD ALERT *****
The Restoration of the Jews are not in Revelation 14

The Jews get their judgment first = Day of Jacob's Trouble where two thirds perish - Zechariah 13

And in all the land,
declares the LORD,
two-thirds will be cut off and perish,
but a third will be left in it.
9This third I will bring through the fire;
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on My name,
and I will answer them.
I will say, ‘They are My people,’
and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’ ”

This occurs just prior to His Second Coming - Matthews 23

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling! Look, your house is left to you desolate.
For I tell you that you will not see Me again until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.”

Repent and Return to the Fear of God and being obedient to His words.

Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar. Proverbs 30:5-6
Yeah
Who woudda thought Jews gathered out of every tribe had anything at all to do with jews?
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,777
113
#43
Yes lots of scriptures talking about a `wife, a bride,` but NO, absolutely NO scripture saying that `the Church is the bride ,` or even a scripture saying `Bride of Christ.`
So you wish to have a textbook answer otherwise you will not believe anything. But that is a rather stupid approach since there is the Marriage of the Lamb in Revelation 19. So now you will turn around and say "Oh, but it does not say "Jesus the Lamb", therefore it could be some other lamb!" Do you see how ludicrous that thinking is?

Now if the Marriage of the Lamb is in Heaven, who do you suppose the Bride is who will shortly become the Lamb's Wife?
 

Marilyn

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2021
1,120
244
63
#45
So you wish to have a textbook answer otherwise you will not believe anything. But that is a rather stupid approach since there is the Marriage of the Lamb in Revelation 19. So now you will turn around and say "Oh, but it does not say "Jesus the Lamb", therefore it could be some other lamb!" Do you see how ludicrous that thinking is?

Now if the Marriage of the Lamb is in Heaven, who do you suppose the Bride is who will shortly become the Lamb's Wife?
Yes we know that the Lord `was led a a lamb to the slaughter.` (Isa. 53: 7) However the title `the Lamb,` (of God) refers to Israel`s sacrifices especially the Passover. It is a title in relation to ISRAEL.

BTW remember that there is NO marriages in heaven.

`For when they rise from the dead their NEITHER MARRY NOR ARE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE, but are like the angels in heaven.` (Mark 12: 25)
 

Marilyn

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2021
1,120
244
63
#46
To those who think they are the `bride.` I don`t want to offend however I think you need a reality check.

Christian men are being deluded into thinking they are now or in the future, being changed to women, and that they will marry Jesus. And because there are so many that would be a harem. And how would they consummate that marriage, as say Adam & Eve whom I am told this picture is like.

That is transgender and polygamy. In case you think well that is `spiritual,` the Mormons believe they can have many `spiritual wives.` Then also the Catholics believe that the nuns are the brides of Christ, the Muslims believe they can have 100 virgins if they are martyred, and now some Christians are saying the men are women and will marry Jesus.

This is NOT wisdom from above, but earthly, sensual, demonic. ( James 3: 15)
 
Jul 23, 2018
12,199
2,775
113
#47
Yes we know that the Lord `was led a a lamb to the slaughter.` (Isa. 53: 7) However the title `the Lamb,` (of God) refers to Israel`s sacrifices especially the Passover. It is a title in relation to ISRAEL.

BTW remember that there is NO marriages in heaven.

`For when they rise from the dead their NEITHER MARRY NOR ARE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE, but are like the angels in heaven.` (Mark 12: 25)
That means to each other. (Men/women)

Has nothing to do with the bride(us) being betrothed to the groom (Jesus).

Consumated in Heaven, and illustrated in mat 25.
 
Jul 23, 2018
12,199
2,775
113
#48
To those who think they are the `bride.` I don`t want to offend however I think you need a reality check.

Christian men are being deluded into thinking they are now or in the future, being changed to women, and that they will marry Jesus. And because there are so many that would be a harem. And how would they consummate that marriage, as say Adam & Eve whom I am told this picture is like.

That is transgender and polygamy. In case you think well that is `spiritual,` the Mormons believe they can have many `spiritual wives.` Then also the Catholics believe that the nuns are the brides of Christ, the Muslims believe they can have 100 virgins if they are martyred, and now some Christians are saying the men are women and will marry Jesus.

This is NOT wisdom from above, but earthly, sensual, demonic. ( James 3: 15)
That is far fetched.
I do not believe that.

The bible ends with the bride / groom dynamic.

Do not muddy up heaven and the bride by saying men are wanting to change into women for Jesus to wed.

The heartbeat of heaven is the bride united with the groom at the rapture.
 
Nov 17, 2017
595
409
63
#49
metaphor
[ˈmedəˌfôr, ˈmedəˌfər]

NOUN
  1. a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.
    "her poetry depends on suggestion and metaphor" ·
    [more]
    synonyms:
    figure of speech · figurative expression · image · trope · allegory · parable · analogy · comparison · symbol · emblem · word painting · word picture · conceit
    • a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, especially something abstract.
      "the amounts of money being lost by the company were enough to make it a metaphor for an industry that was teetering"
 

iTheophilus

Well-known member
Oct 28, 2021
436
471
63
#50
This is awesome: We are privileged to read Jesus Christ's eternal wedding vows ”in that day” when JESUS returns at the Second Advent.

In that day I will make a covenant for them With the beasts of the field, With the birds of the air, And with the creeping things of the ground. Bow and sword of battle I will shatter from the earth, To make them lie down safely. "I will betroth you to Me forever; Yes, I will betroth you to Me In righteousness and justice, In lovingkindness and mercy; I will betroth you to Me in faithfulness, And you shall know the LORD. "It shall come to pass in that day that I will answer," says the LORD; "I will answer the heavens, And they shall answer the earth.

- Hosea 2:18-21 (NKJV)


There will be total peace and harmony on earth both in nature and among the nations when Jesus Christ returns and the Millennium begins. "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb (Isa. 11:6)" and "they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more (Isa. 2:4).”
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#51
And, David, to WHOM is the Lord talking to?
As the saying goes, for me to know and for you to find out -

And it is most beneficial for you to do - so that your Joy may be full - PEACE
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#53
More BALONEY from DT.
Baloney Baloney
pre-trib is a fat Phoney
all who eat this deli meat
will find themselves on the street
facing the truth that they jeered
when the time comes near

His Love is True
it's for me and for you
HE said your life is worth more
then the Mark that's coming to your door
Time to take a stand
in Never Never Land
 

akaBeliever

Active member
Sep 22, 2021
205
242
43
#54
Yes we know that the Lord `was led a a lamb to the slaughter.` (Isa. 53: 7) However the title `the Lamb,` (of God) refers to Israel`s sacrifices especially the Passover. It is a title in relation to ISRAEL.
No, @Marilyn, the Lamb most certainly does not refer to Israel’s sacrifices, but to Christ’s sacrifice of Himself for us.

Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.

- 1 Corinthians 5:7 (NKJV)
 

akaBeliever

Active member
Sep 22, 2021
205
242
43
#55
Jesus is the Lamb of God, our Passover—yes—our one and only way to a covenant relationship with our Father.

The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!…. And looking at Jesus as He walked, he said, "Behold the Lamb of God!"

- John 1:29,36 (NKJV)

Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: "Worthy is the Lamb who was slain To receive power and riches and wisdom, And strength and honor and glory and blessing!"

- Revelation 5:11-12 (NKJV)

Our betrothal to the Lamb is something Jesus Himself desired and prayed for. He wanted a covenant relationship (a marriage) with us that would last forever and a faithful bride (the church, the collective group of true believers, united in Him) that He could proudly bring before the Father:

"I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; "that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. "And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: "I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me. "Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. "O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me. "And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them."

- John 17:20-26 (NKJV)
 

Marilyn

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2021
1,120
244
63
#56
So to all the men here who are thinking they are the `bride of Christ,` do you see yourself as in a white wedding gown waiting to marry the Lord?

That to me is very strange. I don`t understand men thinking they are to be female/bride. And I don`t understand why you would think Jesus wants a bride of billions of people.
 
Nov 17, 2017
595
409
63
#57

Marilyn

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2021
1,120
244
63
#58

Marilyn

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2021
1,120
244
63
#59
Jesus is the Lamb of God, our Passover—yes—our one and only way to a covenant relationship with our Father.

The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!…. And looking at Jesus as He walked, he said, "Behold the Lamb of God!"

- John 1:29,36 (NKJV)

Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: "Worthy is the Lamb who was slain To receive power and riches and wisdom, And strength and honor and glory and blessing!"

- Revelation 5:11-12 (NKJV)

Our betrothal to the Lamb is something Jesus Himself desired and prayed for. He wanted a covenant relationship (a marriage) with us that would last forever and a faithful bride (the church, the collective group of true believers, united in Him) that He could proudly bring before the Father:

"I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; "that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. "And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: "I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me. "Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. "O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me. "And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them."

- John 17:20-26 (NKJV)
The word Passover comes from God`s feast day for Israel. Jesus is our Passover, however the term and title Lamb are to do with Israel.

John spoke about the Lamb, for he was talking to the people of Israel saying this is the fulfillment of what you have been rehearsing for centuries.

The Body of Christ does not have a covenant relationship with the Lord, WE ARE HIS BODY.

There is NO scripture saying that we the BODY are the bride! It is a symbol for Israel in time and in eternity.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#60
The word Passover comes from God`s feast day for Israel. Jesus is our Passover, however the term and title Lamb are to do with Israel.

John spoke about the Lamb, for he was talking to the people of Israel saying this is the fulfillment of what you have been rehearsing for centuries.

The Body of Christ does not have a covenant relationship with the Lord, WE ARE HIS BODY.

There is NO scripture saying that we the BODY are the bride! It is a symbol for Israel in time and in eternity.
Marilyn, you err greatly in understanding especially on saying:
"The Body of Christ does not have a covenant relationship with the Lord, WE ARE HIS BODY."
"There is NO scripture saying that we the BODY are the bride! It is a symbol for Israel in time and in eternity."

Who has fed you these lies - not the LORD and not from His Word.

Tonight, start reading Romans.