Is the Vaccine the Mark of the Beast (MOTB)?

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PennEd

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However, there is something called "predictive programming" where some believe that Hollywood elites who are aware of the latest tracking from NASA are saying at 1:17am on September 24th EST North America will be showered with debris.
Thank you for the explanation.

I never rule something out of hand, but I’m also aware of various deceptions, and psyops.

Like I’m convinced the whole Q-anon stuff was/is a psyop. Designed to make those on the right look foolish, and ultimately depressed.

Whether there is a hidden planet imminently headed our way or not may be up for debate, but it seems suspect to me to rely on intel from celebrities or their plans for a date. And unless I personally knew the NASA source I wouldn’t believe anything they said.


But I’d just hope that those of us that know the injections are wrong on multiple levels can stick together and not go after each other.

Be blessed
 

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The reason this shows up in this thread is because I have inferred that this imminent existential threat is what is really motivating the world leaders and that Covid19 is only an excuse. They are afraid the world will become Mad Max unless they can keep tight control on the situation.
Isaiah 28:14 Wherefore hear the word of Jehovah, ye scoffers, that rule this people that is in Jerusalem: 15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with Sheol are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us; for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Wow, isn't that great! The leaders of the world have "made a covenant with death and with Sheol" -- they have built underground cities like graves, they think that doing that the scourge will pass over them and they will survive. They are hiding in the ground and have been full of falsehood (NASA is taxpayer funded and is supposed to warn us about these things instead they only warn the rulers)

16 therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner-stone of sure foundation: he that believeth shall not be in haste. 17 And I will make justice the line, and righteousness the plummet; and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding-place.

The meteor shower is likened to hail that shall sweep away like a broom their "refuge of lies". They will be fully exposed. The other thing is that there won't just be fire and brimstone raining down like Sodom and Gomorrah, but when the Earth stops rotating you will get a 300 foot flood that will flood out most of these underground cities.

18 And your covenant with death shall be annulled, and your agreement with Sheol shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it. 19 As often as it passeth through, it shall take you; for morning by morning shall it pass through, by day and by night: and it shall be nought but terror to understand the message.

Even though they know about it they don't really appreciate the extent of the six years of terror.
 

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Thank you for the explanation.

I never rule something out of hand, but I’m also aware of various deceptions, and psyops.

Like I’m convinced the whole Q-anon stuff was/is a psyop. Designed to make those on the right look foolish, and ultimately depressed.

Whether there is a hidden planet imminently headed our way or not may be up for debate, but it seems suspect to me to rely on intel from celebrities or their plans for a date. And unless I personally knew the NASA source I wouldn’t believe anything they said.


But I’d just hope that those of us that know the injections are wrong on multiple levels can stick together and not go after each other.

Be blessed
Yes, the one thing that I hate, however, Balaam was a false prophet who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the people of God teaching them to worship idols and to commit fornication. That sounds like Hollywood to me. Despite all that his prophesies concerning Israel are part of the word of God and it was from his prophecy that Daniel figured out what the star of Bethlehem is. So it is certainly in God's play book to do this.

Not only so but it was a thing of beauty the way God played the Catholic church leaders. He tells Fatima that the third dream is a secret, but the Bishop demands to know. So she gives him a sealed letter with it. The church lies about what it was while at the same time building this observatory where they could see it coming. Meanwhile God reveals to someone else what the third dream really was. This exposes the Catholic leadership as shepherds who only care about themselves.

I also found another prophecy that seems to relate to Hollywood and God condemns them because they watched Israel get destroyed and cheered and mocked them. I think that is what they are doing in their predictive programming, they are saying "ha, ha, we know you are about to be destroyed" while they go hide in the caves. This will become the basis for them to be judged as well.
 

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Predictive Programming

1 The vision of Obadiah.

Thus saith the Lord Jehovah concerning Edom: We have heard tidings from Jehovah, and an ambassador is sent among the nations, saying, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle. 2 Behold, I have made thee small among the nations: thou art greatly despised. 3 The pride of thy heart hath deceived thee, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground? 4 Though thou mount on high as the eagle, and though thy nest be set among the stars, I will bring thee down from thence, saith Jehovah.

Who is Edom? They are the twin brother of Jacob who sold their birthright for a pot of beans. We are people of the book, all the major themes come from the Bible, all the great drama, the praise, the worship, the tragedy. They are like the profane story tellers likened to prostitutes. I would compare them to Hollywood, TV, and the Music industry. Their habitation is on high, they set themselves "among the stars" and yet they are greatly despised worldwide.

5 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night (how art thou cut off!), would they not steal only till they had enough? if grape-gatherers came to thee, would they not leave some gleaning grapes? 6 How are the things of Esau searched! how are his hidden treasures sought out! 7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee on thy way, even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread lay a snare under thee: there is no understanding in him. 8 Shall I not in that day, saith Jehovah, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau? 9 And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one may be cut off from the mount of Esau by slaughter.

10 For the violence done to thy brother Jacob, shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever. 11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that strangers carried away his substance, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them. 12 But look not thou on the day of thy brother in the day of his disaster, and rejoice not over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither speak proudly in the day of distress. 13 Enter not into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, look not thou on their affliction in the day of their calamity, neither lay ye hands on their substance in the day of their calamity. 14 And stand thou not in the crossway, to cut off those of his that escape; and deliver not up those of his that remain in the day of distress.

God's judgement on them is that they see the destruction of their brother Jacob and they rejoiced, they simply watched like spectators and waited to come in and pick them clean after the destruction. It is very clear they see the day of disaster, they see the day of distress, their calamity, their affliction and do they do anything to help? Nope, instead they see it as an opportunity.

15 For the day of Jehovah is near upon all the nations: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee; thy dealing shall return upon thine own head. 16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the nations drink continually; yea, they shall drink, and swallow down, and shall be as though they had not been.

This day of destruction that they see is prior to the Day of the Lord, but very near to the Day of the Lord (the seven year tribulation).

17 But in mount Zion there shall be those that escape, and it shall be holy; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.

The escape is the rapture.

18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall burn among them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining to the house of Esau; for Jehovah hath spoken it.

At the same time as the rapture you will have this fire that falls, the judgement on the Great Babylon, she will be burned with fire and her judgement comes in an hour.

So the "vision of Obadiah" refers to the television, the movies, and the music videos. They all have predictive programming in them, the secret things, revealing that they know about this event and are keeping it secret.
 

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Brothers and sisters in Christ, I'm reposting this thread being most careful to follow the guidelines of this site.

I really appreciate all the commentaries on this site about all topics related to the vaccine and the mark of the beast. We are here to help each other understand, to help us have eyes that see and ears that hear. We are here to prevent deception. God Bless You all!!!

I want to respond to statements I've seen here and all over the web about the vax being a precursor to the mark of the beast (MOTB). I have not seen a good explanation of 'precursor'. Does that mean this pandemic/vaccine is a global practice session for the beast system, training people to accept the MOTB (while actually killing people in body and soul as well, given the poison that’s in it including graphene and aborted fetal cells)? Let's consider some issues to ponder concerning whether this is a precursor, and I will also explain why I believe the vaccine is in fact the MOTB:

1. All the vaccines modify human DNA via mRNA.

2. The mRNA modifies a human's DNA, making the recipients genetically modified; researchers and doctors performing autopsies and studies on the bodies of deceased vaccine recipients are telling us that the DNA is chimeric.

3. Genetic modification of a human makes that human patentable because they are no longer found in nature; only those things NOT found in nature can be patented and owned; so now ownership of those who were previously human and are now modified becomes possible (you may be aware that patents for these vaccines existed prior to the COVID PLANdemic).

4. Revelation 18:13 tells us that in the beast system merchants will trade in the souls of men. This must be because by the time the beast system is fully fledged, those who were once men, who were previously made in God's image, and have been transformed into chimeras will be patented and owned and enslaved. Remember that the intent of the powers (that should not be) is that vast numbers who take this jab will die (gradually, in this staged genocide because it can't be obvious that the jab is the cause of death; also, they want us to bury our own dead so they don't have to deal with piles and piles). Those remaining or surviving as modified humanoids (ideal max population is written in the Georgia guidestones) will be patentable and owned.

5. God made us in his image, inclusive of our DNA. When our DNA is modified and we're patentable or owned by the beast, can our body still be the temple of God? Can such a soul that is patented and traded still be made in God's image? (Remember, historical slavery is NOT the same as the slavery resulting from being patented and traded in the beast system, because slaves like the Jews in ancient Egypt or African Americans in the United States were not genetically modified). The beast system takes slavery to a whole new level, without possibility of freedom, or even a fight for freedom. All minds are locked into the artificial intelligence (AI) hive.

6. It should be clear to Christians that we are in end times because of the magnitude of deception in the world (deception is a major birth pang of the end times see Matthew 24). The deception is very obvious because COVID is treatable and treatments are banned, abolished, and some pharmacies carrying the treatments are being destroyed in parts of the world.

7. I asked God for many months about this vaccine, whether it is the MOTB. He sent me a dream on June 23rd 2021 confirming that the vaccine is the mark of the beast. I’ll post a transcript of my dream in future).

Many insist that the vax is NOT the MOTB because it appears to be sneaked into the world, and is happening outside of the prophetic timeline ie., prior to prophetic events that are supposed to occur before it. Remember that even the MOTB has to have a starting point, an inception point, which builds up to the climax in the beast system where the penalty is death. Remember even Jesus came in a manner that was completely unexpected for the Jews; He did not appear to arrive in the manner they expected nor did He say the things they wanted to hear; so they proceeded to reject and crucify him. Remember that Eve ate the apple because she was deceived; she did not remember God's warning and instead believed Satan that she would 'surely not die', and so the fate of mankind was sealed. Similarly many misunderstand and reject God's teachings, and will be deceived and take the mark, and seal their eternal fate. Remember, that the Book of Revelation has been warning us about the mark of the beast for centuries and for Christians who have taken the time to truly understand His Holy Word, God will provide clear warnings. God sent me such a warning and I am compelled to declare it from as many rooftops as possible to His followers.

Is there salvation after taking the mark because you did not realize it is the mark, because it is being delivered via deception as a treatment? That is above my spiritual pay grade. However, as Christians, we love one another and pray ceaselessly for each other. Members of my immediate family have taken it despite my warnings, and despite showing them videos by very informed and highly respected doctors, pastors, and researchers. I pray for them daily, believing in the mercy of God, while very aware of the fate of those who take the mark which is spelled out in Revelation. Their fate is above my spiritual pay grade.

We have to understand that God turns those who are not true followers over to deception. And deception takes many forms. Who are the true followers of Jesus Christ? Each of us has to examine our souls and seek Him with all our heart, mind, body and soul.

What about children or the old who are given the MOTB without their consent? God is merciful and they are safely in His loving hands. He can do all things. He made us, He created the entire universe, He can certainly undo a mark imposed on the innocent. We pray for them.

As we witness the INCEPTION of the mark of the beast, many Christians believe the false doctors and apostate teachers and pastors that the vax is a protection and treatment. Christians have to ask themselves why a vaccine that does not prevent infection or transmission is protective? And we as Christians have to ask why a mask should be worn by only the unvaccinated, when the vaccinated also transmit and infect? And also ask why only the unvaccinated should be excluded from restaurants, gyms, etc, when in fact the vaccination itself does not prevent transmission or infection, and when there is ALWAYS asymptomatic spread? We have to ask ourselves what should be we vaccinated for even though the virus responds well to even natural treatments and supplements, not to mention hydrocholoroquine and ivermectin? Surely these, and many other obvious lies and inconsistencies should be a clear sign that there is a NEFARIOUS hidden agenda behind this jab.

What has to be understood is that the MOTB system as depicted in Revelation 13 will not happen overnight, in one instance, where the old serpent appears as the Antichrist and blatantly declares 'TAKE MY MARK OR DIE'. However, when the beast system is fully in place I do think that the Antichrist will blatantly threaten those who are highly resistant to the mark. The vast majority of those who will strongly resist the mark are Christians so it's really only the Christians who will be threatened with death; non Christians will likely take it long before the penalty is death; for these, the penalty will be livelihood (buying and selling). The buying and selling threat has already started in 2021 in the guise of a fake vaccine.

Christians have to understand that we are in tribulation; our livelihoods are being threatened by these mandates. Our faith in Jesus is being tested. Do we trust Him to provide? That is the question we are faced with. We are appointed to tribulation, not to wrath.

We have to understand that Satan is not in the business of warning or disclosing; one must use wisdom and discernment to recognize the MOTB, that is why in Revelation 13:18 it is written 'here is wisdom' . Remember that Satan did not give Eve any disclosure, and God proceeded to curse mankind, and look at the fate of mankind since then. Nor will Satan give disclosure when it comes to the mark of the beast, he's not and has never been in the business of warning or telling the truth. It will be delivered via deception, just like the knowledge gained by eating the apple was delivered via deception; the old serpent told Eve, 'you will surely not die'. Regarding the vaccine, Satan's mouthpieces are proclaiming, 'you will surely not die'. Sound familiar?

Remember that the entire Bible and the prophetic Books including Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel and the Book of Revelation, as well as the first Book of Enoch are God's warnings. If we have been studying the Holy Word, and walk the talk of our faith, and are truly born again, we cannot be taken by surprise; these warnings have been proclaimed by the prophets from the rooftops for thousands of years. The question is do we understand, or are we deceived?

Remember that Noah warned humankind for over 100 years before the flood (in those days people lived to 1000+ years of age), that the flood was coming. Yet they were eating and marrying and being given in marriage until the day Noah entered the ark. As Jesus warned us the end times will be as in the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37).

Remember that only 7 people entered Noah's ark.

Friends, let us pray those that refuse the mark of the beast will number more than 7.

Amen & Amen!
To me this is ludicrous. Go your way in peace.
 
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We are pretty much forced here now to take the vaccine. No jab, no job. If you work for yourself and you do not take the jab you get a $20,000 fee. You have till the end of the year to take it. No welfare if no jab starting and also no entry to the grocery shops.
 

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We are pretty much forced here now to take the vaccine. No jab, no job. If you work for yourself and you do not take the jab you get a $20,000 fee. You have till the end of the year to take it. No welfare if no jab starting and also no entry to the grocery shops.
So, does everyone who isn't vaccinated, just be homeless and starve? How do you buy food and make a living? $20,000 fine is crazy!
 

ZNP

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We are pretty much forced here now to take the vaccine. No jab, no job. If you work for yourself and you do not take the jab you get a $20,000 fee. You have till the end of the year to take it. No welfare if no jab starting and also no entry to the grocery shops.
I wouldn't pay. If 10,000 people refuse to pay and go to court the courts would get clogged immediately. If they convict you it will be public and that will be greater outrage than simply the threat.

What will they do if you refuse to pay? Put a lien on your house? Put you in jail? This will blow up in their face, not overnight but over the next few years. You will be repaid 5 fold.

The Lord is going to be like a bear robbed of her cubs during the tribulation.
 
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We are pretty much forced here now to take the vaccine. No jab, no job. If you work for yourself and you do not take the jab you get a $20,000 fee. You have till the end of the year to take it. No welfare if no jab starting and also no entry to the grocery shops.
I don't understand how people think the jab is a precursor to the mark of the beast when you can see their plan from a mile away.Now those who have taken 2 jabs will have to take boosters to have vaccination status.After awhile they'll get sick of taking them and start placing the blame on those who haven't taken the shots.Instead of admitting how they got played,the blame will be placed on us.The life is in the blood(DNA) and the third temple is not made by mans hands.
 

ZNP

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I don't understand how people think the jab is a precursor to the mark of the beast when you can see their plan from a mile away.Now those who have taken 2 jabs will have to take boosters to have vaccination status.After awhile they'll get sick of taking them and start placing the blame on those who haven't taken the shots.Instead of admitting how they got played,the blame will be placed on us.The life is in the blood(DNA) and the third temple is not made by mans hands.
Yeah, a lot of paradoxes out there, I can never understand how cows that can weigh over 2,000 pounds just walk docile to their execution at the slaughter house.
 

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We are pretty much forced here now to take the vaccine. No jab, no job. If you work for yourself and you do not take the jab you get a $20,000 fee. You have till the end of the year to take it. No welfare if no jab starting and also no entry to the grocery shops.
What country are you from and can you provide a link from one of your news sites that confirms this? You're saying NO entry into grocery stores?
 

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Its the political folk that made such a muck up of all this. The Medical people are doing their best and are to be congratulated for their fast work on developing a prototype vaccine. Even as much time as they had on the Polio Vaccine, some got polio anyway.
 

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Its the political folk that made such a muck up of all this. The Medical people are doing their best and are to be congratulated for their fast work on developing a prototype vaccine. Even as much time as they had on the Polio Vaccine, some got polio anyway.

at best, the vaccine was a failure.

did little of nothing to stop the delta variant.

having a healthy immune system is much better, no matter what the lying media and the medical industrial complex says.
 

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at best, the vaccine was a failure.

did little of nothing to stop the delta variant.

having a healthy immune system is much better, no matter what the lying media and the medical industrial complex says.
I read an article where they admitted that the data showed the protection waned and disappeared after six months, but their conclusion was that "the vaccine works" because for the first 3 months there was some protection. What they fail to point out is that is past tense, now that they have created an environment that favors the Delta variant it is everywhere and you now have virtually no protection from the vaccine. These articles are written by idiots for idiots. For years they pretended to understand "survival of the fittest" but his shows they really have no clue what it really is.
 

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Brothers and sisters in Christ, I'm reposting this thread being most careful to follow the guidelines of this site.
Your first two points are just plain wrong. I'm sure you mean well, but if you are going to make sweeping statements, you need facts, not regurgitated fallacies that have been discredited over and over again. Since you start off with fallacies, it rather undermines the rest of your conclusions.

Satan is not in the business of warning or disclosing, but God certainly is. Christians can be confident that the mark of the beast will be obvious to believers. We've not seen the first beast, let alone the second. The world will be deceived; not so Christians.

I've had one jab of the vaccine. I'm not dead, not even unwell. My Christian life is completely unaffected. I'll be glad to get the second jab. If I have to have a third, that will be fine. My other new head agrees with me completely.
 

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Your first two points are just plain wrong. I'm sure you mean well, but if you are going to make sweeping statements, you need facts, not regurgitated fallacies that have been discredited over and over again. Since you start off with fallacies, it rather undermines the rest of your conclusions.

Satan is not in the business of warning or disclosing, but God certainly is. Christians can be confident that the mark of the beast will be obvious to believers. We've not seen the first beast, let alone the second. The world will be deceived; not so Christians.

I've had one jab of the vaccine. I'm not dead, not even unwell. My Christian life is completely unaffected. I'll be glad to get the second jab. If I have to have a third, that will be fine. My other new head agrees with me completely.

better watch the new head. the aussie cops might knock it off if you do not text them back fast enough when they check your location.
 
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What country are you from and can you provide a link from one of your news sites that confirms this? You're saying NO entry into grocery stores?
I live in Aus. Note each state may have differing rules.
The last sentence is supposed to be read as No welfare and No entry to grocery stores both starting soon. I do not have a link as I received the info from a friend who follows (obsesses) about covid and the vaccine. She subscribes to various channels news. She probably does have links and articles but she also has four young children under the age of 10 and a husband who is away alot because of his type of work so she is an extremely busy mum usually heavily under the pump so I doubt she has time to find them. It is something they aim to do within each country so it will probably be a matter of time before whatever country you live in mandating it. I wish it were different and we had choice.
 

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I live in Aus. Note each state may have differing rules.
The last sentence is supposed to be read as No welfare and No entry to grocery stores both starting soon. I do not have a link as I received the info from a friend who follows (obsesses) about covid and the vaccine. She subscribes to various channels news. She probably does have links and articles but she also has four young children under the age of 10 and a husband who is away alot because of his type of work so she is an extremely busy mum usually heavily under the pump so I doubt she has time to find them. It is something they aim to do within each country so it will probably be a matter of time before whatever country you live in mandating it. I wish it were different and we had choice.
OK but I wouldn't if I were you take that too seriously. A lot of people are saying all sorts of things. I looked for things in Australia news and as for me I don't see any mention of it. Cutting off people from even going to grocery stores would I'd think be front in center in your news. Not saying those things couldn't potentially occur but no sense believing anything not verified.
 
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OK but I wouldn't if I were you take that too seriously. A lot of people are saying all sorts of things. I looked for things in Australia news and as for me I don't see any mention of it. Cutting off people from even going to grocery stores would I'd think be front in center in your news. Not saying those things couldn't potentially occur but no sense believing anything not verified.
OK but I wouldn't if I were you take that too seriously. A lot of people are saying all sorts of things. I looked for things in Australia news and as for me I don't see any mention of it. Cutting off people from even going to grocery stores would I'd think be front in center in your news. Not saying those things couldn't potentially occur but no sense believing anything not verified.
I think it is entirely possible here. Many states are up to 60-70% vaccinated already as we had so many strict lockdowns that people were running to get vaccinated and also wanting their children to get vaccinated too. Most kids up to the age of twelve (I think) are already vaccinated. All healthcare, building, tradies, retail and hospitality workers must be vaccinated or no job. Protests have done nothing. Over here if you are not vaccinated you get bullied by others. They treat you like you are the cause of the virus.