Oil For Our Lamps! (Part 1)

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We can gauge the importance of Christ’s Second Coming by contrasting the number of times it is mentioned in the Scriptures alongside other teachings:

1) The “new Birth” (conversion) is mentioned 9 times in the New Testament.
2) Baptism is mentioned 20 times
3) Repentance is mentioned 70 times
4) The Second Coming is mentioned 380 times in the New Testament alone!

Matt 25v1-13 states:

"Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. "And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!' Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.' But the wise answered, saying, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.' And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. "Afterward the other virgins came also, saying,'Lord, Lord, open to us!' But he answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.' "Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.”

The question is: “What does the oil in the lamps represent”?

The “virgins” represent Christians who are waiting for the return of the Bridegroom (Christ), 5 are wise and 5 are foolish, the wise have extra oil the foolish do not. The Bridegroom tarries and they all fall asleep, suddenly at midnight a cries goes up, “The Bridegroom cometh.” They all awake, the foolish find that their lamps have gone out, but the wise are prepared. The foolish try to get the necessary oil, but it is to late, there just isn’t time!

This is what the oil is NOT

It is not grace, for we receive grace for the day.
It is not holiness, for all were virgins, all were pure.
It is not prayerfulness and watchfulness every moment, for all (including the wise) fell asleep.
It is not constantly being filled with the Spirit, for the oil was something they (the wise) acquired before they fell asleep.

It is not the Baptism in the Spirits and the gifts of the Spirit, for these don’t need to be “stored”, they can be received anytime and many will receive these things things when they are converted during the Great Tribulation. You only get Baptised in the Spirit once, thereafter you keep getting refilled. There are a lot of Christians who get Baptised in the Spirit who are not ready for the Great Tribulation. The gifts of the Spirit do not constitute extra oil, for once a gift has been given it is always there; and there are many with the gifts of the Spirit who are scared to death to even think about the Great Tribulation.

What difference is there between the wise and foolish virgins? All were pure and ready to meet the Bridegroom. All were waiting for the Bridegroom to return. The wise were not more watchful and prayerful than the foolish for all fell asleep. The ONLY difference was the wise took extra oil. What for? For THE DARKNESS! They wanted to be sure they had light for the darkness! The foolish didn’t bother about the darkness. They didn’t need lamps to meet the Bridegroom, they needed the lamps for the darkness that they knew they WOULD HAVE TO pass through BEFORE they met the Bridegroom!

Part 2
 
jb said:
We can gauge the importance of Christ’s Second Coming by contrasting the number of times it is mentioned in the Scriptures alongside other teachings:

1) The “new Birth” (conversion) is mentioned 9 times in the New Testament.
2) Baptism is mentioned 20 times
3) Repentance is mentioned 70 times
4) The Second Coming is mentioned 380 times in the New Testament alone!

Matt 25v1-13 states:

"Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. "And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!' Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.' But the wise answered, saying, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.' And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. "Afterward the other virgins came also, saying,'Lord, Lord, open to us!' But he answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.' "Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.”

The question is: “What does the oil in the lamps represent”?

The “virgins” represent Christians who are waiting for the return of the Bridegroom (Christ), 5 are wise and 5 are foolish, the wise have extra oil the foolish do not. The Bridegroom tarries and they all fall asleep, suddenly at midnight a cries goes up, “The Bridegroom cometh.” They all awake, the foolish find that their lamps have gone out, but the wise are prepared. The foolish try to get the necessary oil, but it is to late, there just isn’t time!

This is what the oil is NOT

It is not grace, for we receive grace for the day.
It is not holiness, for all were virgins, all were pure.
It is not prayerfulness and watchfulness every moment, for all (including the wise) fell asleep.
It is not constantly being filled with the Spirit, for the oil was something they (the wise) acquired before they fell asleep.

It is not the Baptism in the Spirits and the gifts of the Spirit, for these don’t need to be “stored”, they can be received anytime and many will receive these things things when they are converted during the Great Tribulation. You only get Baptised in the Spirit once, thereafter you keep getting refilled. There are a lot of Christians who get Baptised in the Spirit who are not ready for the Great Tribulation. The gifts of the Spirit do not constitute extra oil, for once a gift has been given it is always there; and there are many with the gifts of the Spirit who are scared to death to even think about the Great Tribulation.

What difference is there between the wise and foolish virgins? All were pure and ready to meet the Bridegroom. All were waiting for the Bridegroom to return. The wise were not more watchful and prayerful than the foolish for all fell asleep. The ONLY difference was the wise took extra oil. What for? For THE DARKNESS! They wanted to be sure they had light for the darkness! The foolish didn’t bother about the darkness. They didn’t need lamps to meet the Bridegroom, they needed the lamps for the darkness that they knew they WOULD HAVE TO pass through BEFORE they met the Bridegroom!

Part 2


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The ONLY way you avoid the Darkness is by the Annointing which is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit - Read about it in the Gospel of John and Acts

The Annointing is ALL that the Father wants in His Children = Obedience to the Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of Truth

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” 16The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.
 
jb said:
We can gauge the importance of Christ’s Second Coming by contrasting the number of times it is mentioned in the Scriptures alongside other teachings:

1) The “new Birth” (conversion) is mentioned 9 times in the New Testament.
2) Baptism is mentioned 20 times
3) Repentance is mentioned 70 times
4) The Second Coming is mentioned 380 times in the New Testament alone!

Matt 25v1-13 states:

"Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. "And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!' Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.' But the wise answered, saying, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.' And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. "Afterward the other virgins came also, saying,'Lord, Lord, open to us!' But he answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.' "Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.”

The question is: “What does the oil in the lamps represent”?

The “virgins” represent Christians who are waiting for the return of the Bridegroom (Christ), 5 are wise and 5 are foolish, the wise have extra oil the foolish do not. The Bridegroom tarries and they all fall asleep, suddenly at midnight a cries goes up, “The Bridegroom cometh.” They all awake, the foolish find that their lamps have gone out, but the wise are prepared. The foolish try to get the necessary oil, but it is to late, there just isn’t time!

This is what the oil is NOT

It is not grace, for we receive grace for the day.
It is not holiness, for all were virgins, all were pure.
It is not prayerfulness and watchfulness every moment, for all (including the wise) fell asleep.
It is not constantly being filled with the Spirit, for the oil was something they (the wise) acquired before they fell asleep.

It is not the Baptism in the Spirits and the gifts of the Spirit, for these don’t need to be “stored”, they can be received anytime and many will receive these things things when they are converted during the Great Tribulation. You only get Baptised in the Spirit once, thereafter you keep getting refilled. There are a lot of Christians who get Baptised in the Spirit who are not ready for the Great Tribulation. The gifts of the Spirit do not constitute extra oil, for once a gift has been given it is always there; and there are many with the gifts of the Spirit who are scared to death to even think about the Great Tribulation.

What difference is there between the wise and foolish virgins? All were pure and ready to meet the Bridegroom. All were waiting for the Bridegroom to return. The wise were not more watchful and prayerful than the foolish for all fell asleep. The ONLY difference was the wise took extra oil. What for? For THE DARKNESS! They wanted to be sure they had light for the darkness! The foolish didn’t bother about the darkness. They didn’t need lamps to meet the Bridegroom, they needed the lamps for the darkness that they knew they WOULD HAVE TO pass through BEFORE they met the Bridegroom!

Part 2
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i very rarely give a Red X. The reason i did on your post is this: Anyone who down plays or discredits the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is doing the work of the spirit of antichrist.

PLEASE read Gospel of John carefully and prayerfully - When God does something and makes it know to us that we NEED IT from Him - It is GOOD.

Do not call what God said is GOOD - anything less then that.
 
DavidTree said:
i very rarely give a Red X...
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As to date, since joining on 2nd August 2021, you have given 92 X's and received 103 X's......

So, your comment that you "rarely give a Red X" is a bit of a joke! lol :p

I certainly am not "down playing" or "discrediting" the baptism in the Holy Spirit and His gifts (as you seem to erroneously think), as in the post I acknowledge that this will indeed be needed and will be widespread!

And I would think you didn't read ALL 4 parts of this blog with the Scriptures, but just cherry picked at something you hadn't been confronted with before.

As regards your comment that I am "doing the work of the spirit of antichrist," you're talking such a lot of nonsense!
 
jb said:
As to date, since joining on 2nd August 2021, you have given 92 X's and received 103 X's......

So, your comment that you "rarely give a Red X" is a bit of a joke! lol :p

I certainly am not "down playing" or "discrediting" the baptism in the Holy Spirit and His gifts (as you seem to erroneously think), as in the post I acknowledge that this will indeed be needed and will be widespread!

And I would think you didn't read ALL 4 parts of this blog with the Scriptures, but just cherry picked at something you hadn't been confronted with before.

As regards your comment that I am "doing the work of the spirit of antichrist," you're talking such a lot of nonsense!
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Very few in comparison to my posts and other positive affirmations to others.

With the amount of error and even heresy on CC - i could of left a lot more

But thank you for replying and please point out for me what i am misunderstanding from you because that is most important to me, and hopefully, to both of us - PEACE.
 
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