The Parable of the Ten Virgins Explained

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You are adding sin to the Wise virgins by interpreting the oil to mean the Holy Spirit. The point of me telling you all of this is to prove to you that the oil is not the Holy Spirit and Jesus did not use parables of wise righteous people telling others to go sin.

The oil is something else, I encourage you to prayerfully consider the oil is forgiveness.
You started off with an error by saying the oil is not symbolic of HS7 and now you build on that error by incorrectly adding sin to the five wise virgins in a PARABLE.

Once you make an error in understanding that error builds = just like 'pre-trib' and others
 
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It seems like a person confessing Christ can lose their way which they went back to the world and stopped allowing the Spirit to lead them.

Which the Bible says that a person who has been enlightened with the truth but goes back to the world is like a sow that is clean goes back to their wallowing in the mud.

Which means they ran out of oil.
Bingo

The prodigal never stopped being family. The father accepted him back because he loved his son.
We can not undo sonship.

Virgins, though foolish do not erase virginity by overeating or gossip.
 
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You started off with an error by saying the oil is not symbolic of HS7 and now you build on that error by incorrectly adding sin to the five wise virgins in a PARABLE.

Once you make an error in understanding that error builds = just like 'pre-trib' and others
My OP is about the oil being forgiveness.

Your belief is the oil is the Holy Spirit. As proven to you using Acts 8:18-22, where attempting to purchase the Holy Spirit is a sin, you have to either take the position that Jesus used a parable where righteous people are telling others to go "buy the Holy Spirit" and sin or you need to adjust your interpretation of the parable of the ten virgins. It's that simple brother DavidTree.
 
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IMO the foolish maids went seeking the antichrist
 
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My OP is about the oil being forgiveness.

Your belief is the oil is the Holy Spirit. As proven to you using Acts 8:18-22, where attempting to purchase the Holy Spirit is a sin, you have to either take the position that Jesus used a parable where righteous people are telling others to go "buy the Holy Spirit" and sin or you need to adjust your interpretation of the parable of the ten virgins. It's that simple brother DavidTree.
lol - How many times are you going to refer to Acts 18 ???

We all know you cannot buy the Holy Spirit - AFFIRMATIVE -CORRRECT - AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Get back to the PARABLE - Five Wise made a WISE n TRUE statement, in the PARABLE, for the foolish to go buy oil.

Now, your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to find out what the LORD JESUS CHRIST meant thru the PARABLE for all of us to make sure we purchased our oil and filled our vessels from the perspective of the PARABLE.

Are you able to understand this or will you just stay fixated on your position?

CLUE Time - this happened before in Scripture with Oil, whereby God used buying and selling oil in a story

PEACE and Good Morning and Blessing from Above from the Dove
 
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My OP is about the oil being forgiveness.

Your belief is the oil is the Holy Spirit. As proven to you using Acts 8:18-22, where attempting to purchase the Holy Spirit is a sin, you have to either take the position that Jesus used a parable where righteous people are telling others to go "buy the Holy Spirit" and sin or you need to adjust your interpretation of the parable of the ten virgins. It's that simple brother DavidTree.
That means the foolish are saying " impart SOME of your forgiveness to me"

The wise saying " no, unless we have not enough forgiveness for ourselves"
 

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I’m Robert52 the author of the new novel, The Passover Revelation: Love Conquers All. The novel is about the missing eighteen years of the life of Jesus in England.

Now many have seen this challenge before:
”When Jesus “ died “ on the cross, did he die as “ God” or as a man?
if you say that he died as a man- then his death is invalid to us- because it’s written that no man can bear the iniquity of another.
If he “ died” as “ God” then that is blasphemy because God can never die.”
Now rabbis and Muslims use this enigma to trip up believers. Their goal is to cause a believer make statement that will bring up contradictions… making the story of Jesus full of inconsistencies.
They have said, “ Can one really believe the story of Jesus if it’s full of conflict? There is no truth in incongruity.”

But the Bible gives a simple answer to the paradox. Who remembers the answer to the Jesus mystery?
 
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lol - How many times are you going to refer to Acts 18 ???

We all know you cannot buy the Holy Spirit - AFFIRMATIVE -CORRRECT - AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Get back to the PARABLE - Five Wise made a WISE n TRUE statement, in the PARABLE, for the foolish to go buy oil.

Now, your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to find out what the LORD JESUS CHRIST meant thru the PARABLE for all of us to make sure we purchased our oil and filled our vessels from the perspective of the PARABLE.

Are you able to understand this or will you just stay fixated on your position?

CLUE Time - this happened before in Scripture with Oil, whereby God used buying and selling oil in a story

PEACE and Good Morning and Blessing from Above from the Dove
Bottom line is that Jesus would not have given a teaching where wise and righteous people, ready to meet the Bridegroom, are telling people to go sin. Jesus used figurative terms to describe the literal. Your literal interpretation of the parable is that something must be exchanged for more Holy Spirit. What do you say money is in the parable? And can you use scripture to prove what money is?

Your interpretation of the oil being the Holy Spirit seems to have a hole in it so big a truck could drive through it.
 
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Bottom line is that Jesus would not have given a teaching where wise and righteous people, ready to meet the Bridegroom, are telling people to go sin. Your interpretation of the oil being the Holy Spirit has a hole in it so big a truck could drive through it.
Brother - you really have me laughing over this - Jesus never told anyone to sin.

The five wise virgins said to the five foolish - "go buy your oil."

Now, since the five wise said this to the the foolish - the wise instructed the foolish to commit sin = according to your interpretation.

When you want to know
you first have to let go
of such which is not right
to make way for clear sight
between the lines
one can find
treasures of truth
that hit further then Babe Ruth
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Psalm 133
1
How good and pleasant it is
when God’s people live together in unity!

2
It is like precious oil poured on the head,
running down on the beard,
running down on Aaron’s beard,
down on the collar of his robe.
3
It is as if the dew of Hermon
were falling on Mount Zion.
For there the Lord bestows his blessing,
even life for evermore.

Not to explicitly contradict anyone's comments but while it is widely accepted that the Oil of Annointing is symbolic
of the annointing of The Holy Spirit- I don't think everyday oil used as fuel for lamps is the same oil used for annointing.
Here is why: (bold)

Exodus 30
22 Then the Lord said to Moses, 23 ‘Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant calamus, 24 500 shekels of cassia – all according to the sanctuary shekel – and a hin of olive oil. 25 Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil. 26 Then use it to anoint the tent of meeting, the ark of the covenant law, 27 the table and all its articles, the lampstand and its accessories, the altar of incense, 28 the altar of burnt offering and all its utensils, and the basin with its stand. 29 You shall consecrate them so they will be most holy, and whatever touches them will be holy.

30 ‘Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them so they may serve me as priests. 31 Say to the Israelites, “This is to be my sacred anointing oil for the generations to come. 32 Do not pour it on anyone else’s body and do not make any other oil using the same formula. It is sacred, and you are to consider it sacred. 33 Whoever makes perfume like it and puts it on anyone other than a priest must be cut off from their people.”’

 
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Brother - you really have me laughing over this - Jesus never told anyone to sin.

The five wise virgins said to the five foolish - "go buy your oil."

Now, since the five wise said this to the the foolish - the wise instructed the foolish to commit sin = according to your interpretation.
They all sinned because they all fell asleep, but the foolish virgins missed the bridegroom due to not waiting for Him.

Falling asleep in eschatological contexts, such as the parable of the ten virgins, does mean sin as I will show you now:

Mark 13:36-37
36Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. 37And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Romans 13:11
11And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Ephesians 5:14
14Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

1 Thessalonians 5:6
6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
 
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They all sinned because they all fell asleep, but the foolish virgins missed the bridegroom due to not waiting for Him.

Falling asleep in eschatological contexts, such as the parable of the ten virgins, does mean sin as I will show you now:

Mark 13:36-37
36Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. 37And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Romans 13:11
11And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Ephesians 5:14
14Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

1 Thessalonians 5:6
6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
You dodged the error of "the sin of buying oil" to "sleep".

None of the Ten virgins were scolded for "sleeping" in the Parable.

Get back to your "buying oil is sin" and once you correct this you must then find out what it means to "buy oil" in the Parable to Truth for us today.
Since we cannot "buy the Holy Spirit" the Parable of buying oil is directing us to something very important as the five wise virgins had purchased enough oil to keep there lamps burning bright.
 
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You dodged the error of "the sin of buying oil" to "sleep".

None of the Ten virgins were scolded for "sleeping" in the Parable.

Get back to your "buying oil is sin" and once you correct this you must then find out what it means to "buy oil" in the Parable to Truth for us today.
I see you want to ignore that sleeping means sin in eschatological contexts. If you don't understand this fundamental truth, you'll misinterpret the parable as many seem to do.

None of the 10 virgins were scolded for trying to buy oil either. I think you're missing the point of the parable and introducing elements that are not relevant.


Since we cannot "buy the Holy Spirit" the Parable of buying oil is directing us to something very important as the five wise virgins had purchased enough oil to keep there lamps burning bright.
What do you think "buying" means in the parable?
 
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I see you want to ignore that sleeping means sin in eschatological contexts. If you don't understand this fundamental truth, you'll misinterpret the parable as many seem to do.

None of the 10 virgins were scolded for trying to buy oil either. I think you're missing the point of the parable and introducing elements that are not relevant.




What do you think "buying" means in the parable?
Where, at the time of Jesus/Disciples, did they buy there oil from?
 
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Where, at the time of Jesus/Disciples, did they buy there oil from?
Okay this isn't a discussion anymore since we've stopped answering each others questions several comments back.
 
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Psalm 133
1
How good and pleasant it is
when God’s people live together in unity!


2
It is like precious oil poured on the head,
running down on the beard,
running down on Aaron’s beard,
down on the collar of his robe.
3
It is as if the dew of Hermon
were falling on Mount Zion.
For there the Lord bestows his blessing,
even life for evermore.

Not to explicitly contradict anyone's comments but while it is widely accepted that the Oil of Annointing is symbolic
of the annointing of The Holy Spirit- I don't think everyday oil used as fuel for lamps is the same oil used for annointing.
Here is why: (bold)


Exodus 30
22 Then the Lord said to Moses, 23 ‘Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant calamus, 24 500 shekels of cassia – all according to the sanctuary shekel – and a hin of olive oil. 25 Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil. 26 Then use it to anoint the tent of meeting, the ark of the covenant law, 27 the table and all its articles, the lampstand and its accessories, the altar of incense, 28 the altar of burnt offering and all its utensils, and the basin with its stand. 29 You shall consecrate them so they will be most holy, and whatever touches them will be holy.


30 ‘Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them so they may serve me as priests. 31 Say to the Israelites, “This is to be my sacred anointing oil for the generations to come. 32 Do not pour it on anyone else’s body and do not make any other oil using the same formula. It is sacred, and you are to consider it sacred. 33 Whoever makes perfume like it and puts it on anyone other than a priest must be cut off from their people.”’
The special Annointing Oil does not need to be used nor specified in the Parable, since it is a parable.

The application of these three things is what our Lord focused in on for the five wise = Lamps and Vessels, filled with Oil.

The OIl is the MOST IMPORTANT aspect of the Parable.
For the foolish ran out of it and were 'Shut OUT' whereas the wise were received = all relating to the Oil.

Everyone, so far, has also missed another KEY phrase that directly confirms the Oil as symbolic of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Psalm 133
1
How good and pleasant it is
when God’s people live together in unity!


2
It is like precious oil poured on the head,
running down on the beard,
running down on Aaron’s beard,
down on the collar of his robe.
3
It is as if the dew of Hermon
were falling on Mount Zion.
For there the Lord bestows his blessing,
even life for evermore.

Not to explicitly contradict anyone's comments but while it is widely accepted that the Oil of Annointing is symbolic
of the annointing of The Holy Spirit- I don't think everyday oil used as fuel for lamps is the same oil used for annointing.
Here is why: (bold)


Exodus 30
22 Then the Lord said to Moses, 23 ‘Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant calamus, 24 500 shekels of cassia – all according to the sanctuary shekel – and a hin of olive oil. 25 Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil. 26 Then use it to anoint the tent of meeting, the ark of the covenant law, 27 the table and all its articles, the lampstand and its accessories, the altar of incense, 28 the altar of burnt offering and all its utensils, and the basin with its stand. 29 You shall consecrate them so they will be most holy, and whatever touches them will be holy.


30 ‘Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them so they may serve me as priests. 31 Say to the Israelites, “This is to be my sacred anointing oil for the generations to come. 32 Do not pour it on anyone else’s body and do not make any other oil using the same formula. It is sacred, and you are to consider it sacred. 33 Whoever makes perfume like it and puts it on anyone other than a priest must be cut off from their people.”’
P.S. - Pay attention to the ingredients of the 'Annointing Oil' from Exodus 30.

SAME Olive Oil in the Annointing Oil as used in the Parable.
 

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Who says the 144,000 are Jews according to the flesh? Not Scripture

Think Scripture - All of IT and remember - there is only One Faith - One Gospel - One Body of Christ
The 144,000 are all the Jews who repent, seen HERE...... Zechariah 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

And here.......Rev. 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

That is why they are seen with Jesus at his return, they are The Wheat. The Gentile Church ae the Barley. The Barley doesn't need to be CRUSHED in order to be sifted, Wheat dos have to be crushed first. Thus Rev. 14, is the Harvest Chapter. We see the Wheat with Jesus at his return, we have a FLASHBACK to the Barley (Rev. 14:14) Rapture of the Church which is pre-trib, and needs not to be crushed to be sifted. Lastly, we have the Grape Harvest of the Wicked in verses 17-20. The word tribulation comes from a Greek word that calls a machine that crushes the Wheat the TRIBULINE that is because Wheat has to be crushed before it can e sifted, that is why God calls Israel the Wheat. They have to go through the 70th-week tribulation before they will repent (they are thus CRUSHED, and then sifted).

For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Romans 10

And this is God’s plan: Both Gentiles and Jews who believe the Good News share equally in the riches inherited by God’s children. Both are part of the same body, and both enjoy the promise of blessings because they belong to Christ Jesus. Ephesians 3:6-7

For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. 14For in fact the body is not one member but many. 1 Corinthians 12:12-14
Now reread Gal. 3 and think JUST TE OPPOSITE of what you know to think, that is what Paul was actually teaching the Galatians. They wanted to act like Jews because someone had taught them you have to observe God like the Jews in order to get to heaven, don't believe me, go reread it. He starts out, WHO HAS BEWITCHED YOU, that starting out in the Faith, you have now returned ut the Fesh (trying to earn your way to heaven via THE LAW) Then Paul goes into all the reasoning why the Law can not save us and only faith can save is. He reminds them that the original covenant was not the Law but was the Promise !! Then he asks, why was the Law given? And he explains, because of sin, but once Jesus (the Promise) come there is now no need of the Law, the Law was a schoolmaster to bring us unto the Promise, but once the Promised Messiah has come we no longer have need of the Law, because we are justified by faith alone.

So, when Paul says here is neither Jew nor Greek, Male nor Female, neither Slave nor Freeman, he's not saying that all In Christ are one per se (even though we are) he is making just the opposite point as you and others pull out of this chapter, he's chastising the Galatians for thinking they have to observe the LAWS like the Jews in order to make it to heaven (this is why he mentions them leaving the faith and living BY FLESH at the start of the chapter)

So, at the very end, he's not trying to say Jews and Gentiles are all one because of Faith, he's saying to the Galatians just the opposite, we are all the same via our FAITH, so stop tryi g to be like the Jews who serve the Law. Hes not saying the Jews and Gentiles are the same as called by God, we know that is not true, the Gentiles have a TIME allotted to them (the time of the Gentiles) and the Jews go through the 70th week after the Rapture, they are the Wheat, we are the Barley. So, while ot is true that we all come unto Christ the exact same way, we d0n;t do it at the same time per se. Some Jews come unto Christ and are ruptured with us, but most come unto Christ after the start of the 70th week (3-5 million).

The key that lets us know Paul is not saying that the Jews and Gentiles are all seen as the exact same entities are the mention of the Males and Females, none of us see that as Paul saying there are now no Male nor Females, thus he's also not saying there are no Jews nor Gentiles, he's saying that in God's eyes we DO NOT HAVE to serve the Law like Jews in order to make it to Heaven, thus Paul chastises them for thinking they have to become "Jews" in order to find favor with God.

So, the whole chapter you cite is not Paul tryi g to say there are now no Jews or Gentiles, he's simply telling these Gentile Galatians, HEY GUYS, stop trying to earn your way to heaven by serving the Law as the Jews do, go back unto what we taught you, lie by FAITH ALONE.