Is everything scripture tells us from an eternal God, so all scripture is always true?
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You say the law does not guide us, scripture says it does. I will go by scripture, not you.
Psalm 119:1 . Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
There are many other scripture verses that say the same thing.
Psalm 119:1 . Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
There are many other scripture verses that say the same thing.
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it's just you making a mistake
over and over and over and over
the old covenant is old
now we have the new covenant
the old covenant was never able to save which is why Jesus had to die
now, He is able to save to the uttermost all those who believe in Him
you are committing grave error by ignoring all scripture that is presented to illustrate to you that we are not bound by the law
again, you are making the mistake here. not anyone else
over and over and over and over
the old covenant is old
now we have the new covenant
the old covenant was never able to save which is why Jesus had to die
now, He is able to save to the uttermost all those who believe in Him
you are committing grave error by ignoring all scripture that is presented to illustrate to you that we are not bound by the law
again, you are making the mistake here. not anyone else
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The law was given to us by our loving Father, I don't think it is right to only see or understand the law as you are teaching about it. I agree, we can use the law to point us to what causes our death. But we can also use the law to point us to living in the kingdom of the Lord. We will know the reality of this kingdom when we pass from this earthly life, Christ is the reality. But we can also use the law to help us see what this reality is like. We can follow the 119th psalm, we can follow the teachings of Christ to see some of this reality. But to only use the law as a curse, turning a blind eye to anything else, does not lead us to Christ.
Blik does not have a "thing" about the law, Blik has a thing about listening to scripture and to God's word. Blik has a "thing" about that Christ is our Savior, how about seeing that about Blik? Instead Blik is used by demons to fight listening to the Lord about the law. God gave the law, Blik didn't.
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Scripture tells us to obey the law, it is not a human person saying it. Humans are saying to disregard the law, to live lawlessly. That is not scripture. You do not say scripture is in error, why not? You say it is an error to listen to God as God tells us to obey.
1 John 5:3 "Loving God means keeping his commandments, and his commandments are not burdensome."
1 John 5:3 "Loving God means keeping his commandments, and his commandments are not burdensome."
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“And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament;
which veil is done away in Christ.
But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart.”
2 Corinthians 3:13
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament;
which veil is done away in Christ.
But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart.”
2 Corinthians 3:13
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the law was not given to you
salvation through the blood of Christ was given to you
the law is not a curse. the law curses those who cannot keep. that, would be you and every other single human being
apparently you do not know the reality of having your sins forgiven through Christ and think you have to obey the law
that is confusion and deception
You may tear out any scripture about the law if that is your choice, but for me--I read and believe all scripture.
Scripture tells me that if I repent and listen to Christ my sins ARE forgiven, and it is Christ who tells me that. You have no authority.
Scripture tells me to love God is to obey Him. I love the Lord and although I am too human to obey perfectly, I live in repentance of sin. That is scripture you say must be ignored or not listened to.
Scripture tells me that if I repent and listen to Christ my sins ARE forgiven, and it is Christ who tells me that. You have no authority.
Scripture tells me to love God is to obey Him. I love the Lord and although I am too human to obey perfectly, I live in repentance of sin. That is scripture you say must be ignored or not listened to.
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Do you agree non-virgin unwed females should be stoned to death?
Deu 22:20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
Deu 22:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
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You are reading scripture from a God, not a man, and this God speaks of spiritual things using early illustrations. This scripture says "my Father's house" and it speaks of Israel, not an individual.
Are you saying that because you don't believe in stoning that you question all of scripture?
As I made a study of scripture telling of stoning in the OT, I found that there were many laws that protected people from excess stoning. It was done in the same way we give the death sentence to criminals today. I also found that it is a message to us about what God feels is important for us. It is a basic rule of the Lord that we are to respect life and never take it based on what we think, it must be decided by appointed rulers.
I do not understand about stoning, but I do understand we are created by a God who loves us and wants us to live, not only on earth but etermally. I don't believe my not understanding how this God can ask for stoning, but I do not give up my faith because I don't understand.
Are you saying that because you don't believe in stoning that you question all of scripture?
As I made a study of scripture telling of stoning in the OT, I found that there were many laws that protected people from excess stoning. It was done in the same way we give the death sentence to criminals today. I also found that it is a message to us about what God feels is important for us. It is a basic rule of the Lord that we are to respect life and never take it based on what we think, it must be decided by appointed rulers.
I do not understand about stoning, but I do understand we are created by a God who loves us and wants us to live, not only on earth but etermally. I don't believe my not understanding how this God can ask for stoning, but I do not give up my faith because I don't understand.
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it is such a shame that you still do not seem able to grasp the fact that believers in Christ are not law keepers
you can stop with the virtue signalling. you may read all scripture, but you certainly do not grasp the meaning of much of it
For sin will not rule over you, for you are not under law, but under grace. Romans 6:14
are you under law or under grace? if you are under law, then sin still condemns you as you cannot keep the law
no one is tearing out scripture. however, you have the old and new testaments confused and think everyone else is doing that
you can stop with the virtue signalling. you may read all scripture, but you certainly do not grasp the meaning of much of it
For sin will not rule over you, for you are not under law, but under grace. Romans 6:14
are you under law or under grace? if you are under law, then sin still condemns you as you cannot keep the law
no one is tearing out scripture. however, you have the old and new testaments confused and think everyone else is doing that