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Nehemiah6

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You have mis quoted the gospel. It does not say Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and rose again FOR OUR JUSTIFICATION ... very clever of you indeed. You have corrupted the gospel. Justification is not salvation.
No I have definitely NOT misquoted Scripture nor corrupted the Gospel. And since you do not believe that justification is salvation, there are only two options: (1) you are either ignorant of the Gospel or (2) you wish to pervert the Gospel.

So listen up:
Who [Christ] was delivered for our offences [died for our sins], and was raised again for our justification. (Rom 4:25)

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:3,4)
 
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No I have definitely NOT misquoted Scripture nor corrupted the Gospel. And since you do not believe that justification is salvation, there are only two options: (1) you are either ignorant of the Gospel or (2) you wish to pervert the Gospel.

So listen up:
Who [Christ] was delivered for our offences [died for our sins], and was raised again for our justification. (Rom 4:25)

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:3,4)
No I have definitely NOT misquoted Scripture nor corrupted the Gospel. And since you do not believe that justification is salvation, there are only two options: (1) you are either ignorant of the Gospel or (2) you wish to pervert the Gospel.

So listen up:
Who [Christ] was delivered for our offences [died for our sins], and was raised again for our justification. (Rom 4:25)

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:3,4)
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No I have definitely NOT misquoted Scripture nor corrupted the Gospel. And since you do not believe that justification is salvation, there are only two options: (1) you are either ignorant of the Gospel or (2) you wish to pervert the Gospel.

So listen up:
Who [Christ] was delivered for our offences [died for our sins], and was raised again for our justification. (Rom 4:25)

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:3,4)
 

Gardenias

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Not gonna be here again.
IBG and the OP are in the box together with the nonsensicals.
 

BillG

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Yes. God the Son died and rose again from the dead. Believe it!
As Paul says

Romans 10:8-12
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach):
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.
 
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Man! You are the only ones who believe Christ DIED, not continue living as aa 'immortal' soul!!!

I'm PROUD of you!
 

Hann57

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No I have definitely NOT misquoted Scripture nor corrupted the Gospel. And since you do not believe that justification is salvation, there are only two options: (1) you are either ignorant of the Gospel or (2) you wish to pervert the Gospel.

So listen up:
Who [Christ] was delivered for our offences [died for our sins], and was raised again for our justification. (Rom 4:25)

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:3,4)
Paul warned of those who would come and preach another gospel. And you are just one of many.
 

Hann57

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You say gospel was given to Paul by Christ and that is the gospel we must be saved by.

I say the GOSPELS OF JESUS CHRIST are the first 4 books of the new testament.

( hmmmm,feel like I already explained this to you)

We are....NOT... disciples OF PAUL!
WE ARE DISCIPLES OF JESUS,THE SON OF GOD,HE IS THE ONE WHO DIED FOR US!!!!!!!

The epistles are for correction,encouragement, instructions and growth as WE FOLLOW CHRIST JESUS!
Do you not read? Paul was given the gospel from Christ.
Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul was an unbeliever until God called him.
Rom 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
It is the gospel of Christ, or the gospel of God.
The gospel of the kingdom was for Israel. Which were still living when Paul preached his gospel.
There was more than one gospel . But for today only one gospel, the gospel given to Paul by Christ.
You must obey this gospel, to obey is to believe it to be saved.
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
 

Hann57

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So God (the Three) was literally IN Jesus? And Jesus (the Trinity) DIED?
Just trying to understand you!
Trinity? First you need to believe Christ died for our sins... then we talk.
 

montana123

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So God DIED, but DIDN'T die?
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, and God died according to His humanity, which the Bible says that God laid down His life for us, and purchased the Church with His own blood.

Jesus is God and man who is the visible image of the invisible God, and the man Christ Jesus the personal human body of God.

Which the throne in heaven is the throne of God and the Lamb who is God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus.

Which Jesus prayed that the saints could have the same glory as Him, and behold His glory, which the saint will have a glorified body and eternal life life like the man Christ Jesus, and see His glory as He sits on the throne of heaven.

God cannot die but His humanity died.
 

Hann57

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Not here to argue. You need to believe the gospel to be saved, Paul's gospel.
 

Pilgrimshope

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OK.
You rock.on with Paul,and I'll stand on the rock of my salvation Jesus who is the cornerstone!!
it’s a pretty common mis bekief that paul
Is somehow different than the others or somehow removes Christ from salvstion but it sure didn’t come from Paul he was seriously offended with that thinking

“Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.

Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭1:12-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

but really this group doesn’t believe what Paul wrote either only a few verses they use to omit everything else so like this section of Paul’s letters doesn’t apply of course

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that doesn’t apply to the Paulians only what can be quoted that makes everything else written in the same letters to the same people seem irrelevant

in fact they can’t even acknolwedge Paul was preaching the gospel of the kingdom like Jesus was
 
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Christ - not a Triune God- died (not remaining ALIVE).
GOD - not Jesus himself (John2) - RESURRECTED him on the 3rd day.

Such SIMPLE facts- and they the churches get a hold on it!
 

Hann57

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it’s a pretty common mis bekief that paul
Is somehow different than the others or somehow removes Christ from salvstion but it sure didn’t come from Paul he was seriously offended with that thinking

“Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.

Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭1:12-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

but really this group doesn’t believe what Paul wrote either only a few verses they use to omit everything else so like this section of Paul’s letters doesn’t apply of course

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that doesn’t apply to the Paulians only what can be quoted that makes everything else written in the same letters to the same people seem irrelevant

in fact they can’t even acknolwedge Paul was preaching the gospel of the kingdom like Jesus was
1Co_14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
 

Nehemiah6

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Not here to argue. You need to believe the gospel to be saved, Paul's gospel.
What about Christ's Gospel? What about Peter's Gospel? What about the Gospel preached by all the apostles? Are they all not one Gospel.