Should women teach, should you?

[Guardian1970]

Brothers and Sisters,


Remember this too, when you come together as in the days of old, it is not just to debate, in fact let us not use that word. It is more so to evaluate what we believe we have learned from God. Whom reveals Himself to whom He wills. It is more so to praise God for what He has done by using you, or someone you know. Or how he has saved someone, first praise then share with what you believe God has revealed to you through Scrupture, Fasting, and Prayer. He will speak to you and show you something to share with the family for the edification of the body.

So, Take heart to those who teach in truth, this does not means that all of you have taught wrongly, just know and understand there is wisdom among your brothers and sisters, that you are not the Shepard, but a sheep like all of us, with one Sheapard. Who commanded for you to go out and make Disciples of all nations!

If we are all born again then, and all priests/disciples, then we should all be seeking the face and will of our God the Father. We ALL should also all be teaching and sharing/praising God for what He has done through us to bring honor and glory to His name and the Kingdom.

So take heart, this is the Way. The world and work does not rest on your shoulders. It is already done and light as a feather in Christ alone.

This is the Way
A brother in Christ

 

[EnglishChick]

Great stuff all!!

I see many of you do hear and see. It is a reflection of marriage, it is a reflection of the church and the head of it. Being one church body/bride with one Master, Teacher and Father. Remember though, we are called to come together not only for witnessing, but to seek all truths together. We should never stop trying to learn of Him, from Him. If we believe we have all truths then we are liars. Believing we know all there is to know about God.

That is why he gave those truths out to different people, each according to their ability. That we should come together as one comes to the banker to share and increase. “Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. 17And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. 18But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.” Listen to one another, share and be open to learn. Verify who it comes from with/against the Word of God. Do it in peace with love and humility.

It is the fact we are all equal in the eyes of the Lord. We are all sinners, we are all brothers and sisters. Both inside and outside of salvation/the body. Remember the only difference between us and those not saved is if you truly believe upon hearing the truth by God’s will, repented and was born again in the Spirit by the grace of God alone. Then that is it!! We did not earn it, there is no one, brother or sister above the other. We are to be one selfless bride (which is hard to do in the flesh) and dedicated to the one Husband, with one “teacher” the one master. Who has sheep in different folds and flocks that He will being together.

For other replies. Well, I did not read their threads before I posted powderkeg. I did it because I kept seeing it. Is there something wrong with posting my own? You are right, another posted, some would not allow people to speak if it were possible. After all, the religious of the day, like Pharisees, try to forbid other teachers from speaking of the way about Christ too.

Either way, great discussions, and I rejoice to see the Spirit of God moving.

Remember, Love your neighbor as yourself!

Love to you brothers and sisters in Christ

Amen

 

[Lanolin]

WHO trained you is the question (Romans 10:14-15)?

GOD or man (Acts 5:29)?

God
He got me teaching when I didnt really want to. lol

I teach under cover now (I dont do lesson plans etc) in school. psst dont tell anyone. The Bible is a library, Im 'just the librarian' . I get asked all kinds of questions not just 'God' ones.

 

[Lanolin]

its mostly the eunuch and Phillip situation, but a lot of men are actually too proud to ask questions lest others think they are stoopid.

I only 'teach' if theres someone willing to learn. You cant teach anyone who doesnt want to learn.

 

[oyster67]

its mostly the eunuch and Phillip situation, but a lot of men are actually too proud to ask questions lest others think they are stoopid.

I only 'teach' if theres someone willing to learn. You cant teach anyone who doesnt want to learn.

Everybuddy figurd out me was stooopid a longs times ago so I gots no worries and no shames.

 

[ResidentAlien]

It's really very simple. 1 Timothy 2:12 says: "And I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to have authority over a man, but to be in silence."

It's unfortunate that many modern translations have translated the Greek οὐδὲ (oude) in this passage as "or." It doesn't mean or, it means nor. The difference is significant.

For example, if it's or, the passage can be interpreted as: "I don't permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man." This is exactly how it's translated in most cases, with no punctuation. As the New Living Translation demonstrates, this leads to: "I do not let women teach men or have authority over them." Now we have women are not supposed to teach only men!

What the passage actually says (and I paraphrase): "Women aren't permitted to teach (period). Nor have authority over a man." They're not permitted to teach nor exercise authority over a man either one!

The debate these days is usually framed in term of women pastors and whether or not they're permitted to preach to men. This is a false argument and misses the real issue entirely. I'm sure there are many capable women who could teach; I'm not saying their aren't. I'm just saying that's not the protocol God has established for His church.

 

[Nehemiah6]

What the passage actually says (and I paraphrase): "Women aren't permitted to teach (period). Nor have authority over a man." They're not permitted to teach nor exercise authority over a man either one!

That is correct. Indeed Paul said that women are to (1) remain silent during worship, and (2) cover their heads and their hair during worship. This is not merely Paul speaking, but it is the Lord Jesus Christ who directed Paul through the Holy Spirit to make it very clear that within the Christian assemblies (churches) -- not just in Corinth but in all churches -- women were not permitted to preach, teach, or exercise authority over men. All the apostles were men, and all elders and deacons were to be men.

 

[CS1]

Should women teach?

This has been talked about and argued a lot. Let me ask these questions for you to ponder, before you read on.

Why would men argue women are not worthy to teach? On what basis? So the first question is, should YOU teach?

Who gives YOU authority to teach? Who makes you a priest? By what baptism, by whom and how? Of Men or God? Understanding this will help you frame and understand the truth!

Is salvation and the cross only for man? Is the Holy Spirit and salvation only for man? Are women and children not afforded the same salvation with the same spirit, the same way as men? If we agree then that all are saved in the same way, given the same spirit, and therefore the same teacher, then who are you to say whom God has chosen to carry His truth and who is not?

God forbid that there be a difference, for as God has used women to save nations and influence them like Pilot’s wife, also even so using a Donkey to speak and deliver a message! Do not think you to be greater than the woman, or a child! Which is greater men or children? For behold, Jesus said “Unless you humble yourself as this child, you will not enter the Kingdom of heaven! You must also have the faith of a child.

Just as it is written do not think yourself to be greater than Israel for from her came salvation to all the world! To which did salvation come first Gentile or Jew? Then why do you believe you are greater then your brother? If you do not believe but understand, then understand you are also not greater then your sister! Whose law is greater men or God’s? If you claim God’s then tell me what was meant by when Jesus said, Who are my mothers and brothers? , “Who are my mother and my brothers?” 34And looking about at those who sat around him, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35For whoever does the will of God, he is my brother and sister and mother.” Did he separate women from doing the Will of God? He emphasizes and expanded not only mother but added the word sister. If the master does not separate them, should you? If salvation does not separate them, then don’t.

So know this, God keeps His word and will save Israel. Behold Israel is already saved, they just have to recognize who has saved them. Seek and you shall find, look and learn from the Torah. This foreshadowing, to include how He would save the gentile and then keep His word saving the Jew. Let he who seeks find, look at the lesson of Isaac and his two sons. It is all there in plain site for those with heavens eyes to see. Who would be saved and how.

You who point to a letter from a fellow brother and disciple on his own journey and walk toward the light and understanding, even having his own struggles with his flesh. Understanding the contexts of the letter is key. That it is about keeping good order in the meetings. Note that not just ONE person was teaching as it is today in most “churches” today but, all believers coming together to share what they believe God has shown them. These are the talents scattered.

He emphasized obedience because It was about wives being respectful to their husbands and if in disagreement, not to argue in front of the congregation but to talk privately out of respect. Discuss it in private and if her truth change His mind then they can echo each other. Showing mutual respect. He speaks the same of the others in taking turns and waiting for others to cease speaking. Having an interpretive of you guys though I know he questioned them, one of wisdom would not deny that it may come from God, but for what purpose? When it showed on the day of Pentecost it was to show and being glory’s to God and spread His word at a world trading post. Those who knew they were there people were foreign listened even more because they understood them each in their own language. So the purpose of the letter was to organize and keep order. Think of a town hall with no organization. He was just trying to apply organization and good order.

Now, since Christ did not deny women doing the will of God. Who is man to stand before God and tell Him who He shall give mercy, the spirit and salvation?

Again, this is not man’s church, man cannot control it. Satin cannot keep God from touching whom He chooses will glorify His name.

He is the way.
This is the way.

Least of the kingdom and
a brother in Christ

yes, women should, and they do teach.

 

[Gardenias]

There has truly been much debate about this topic,we have two sides!

How about we see as scripture tells us.
There is niether....... male nor female in God.

This is addressing an husband an wife relationship,where the husband is the head as Christ is his head. It is a protective covering.


There are ALSO GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT,and some are called to teach. I have taught mixed classes and none complained. There is an attitude of humbleness when addressing the scriptures to others and NONE OF IT can be done through usurping,no matter the sex!

Our role is to use the inspired word of God as he intended.
Its like throwing spaghetti at a wall...... Some stick some doesn't.

I say which is worse, teaching men or denying the call of God on your life?

These are petty things taught by denominations!

 

[Lanolin]

its well known that men cant be taught anything much lol...otherwise Jesus wouldnt have had to die.You think the disciples were easy to teach...put yourself in Jesus shoes. Reading the gospels, many if them did not even get what Jesus was saying! Really it was only Mary who showed she was a willing disciple/student who would actually listen to what Jesus said.

Rememeber Peter. He tried to walk on water to copy Jesus. Jesus had to tell him well no thats not really what I meant, and then later he said 'feed my sheep, feed my lambs' something women have actually been doing all along!

But women still try and teach men anyway even when they dont listen. I think the easiest way is through their stomachs.....

 

[ResidentAlien]

There has truly been much debate about this topic,we have two sides!

How about we see as scripture tells us.
There is niether....... male nor female in God.

This is addressing an husband an wife relationship,where the husband is the head as Christ is his head. It is a protective covering.


There are ALSO GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT,and some are called to teach. I have taught mixed classes and none complained. There is an attitude of humbleness when addressing the scriptures to others and NONE OF IT can be done through usurping,no matter the sex!

Our role is to use the inspired word of God as he intended.
Its like throwing spaghetti at a wall...... Some stick some doesn't.

I say which is worse, teaching men or denying the call of God on your life?

These are petty things taught by denominations!

In the Spirit we're all one, but in this world there are differences, and the scriptures tell us plainly what the roles of men and women are in the church.

 

[Gardenias]

In the Spirit we're all one, but in this world there are differences, and the scriptures tell us plainly what the roles of men and women are in the church.

I'm really surprised about your thoughts on this.
I figured you to be more balanced,since I tend to agree with most you say.

I agree God made woman to be a helpmate for Adam. There certainly are different functions in each ( I'd love to see A MAN carry and birth a child😁) but as you agree in the spirit we all are the same. Doesn't the bible say WE MUST WORSHIP GOD IN THE SPIRIT AND TRUTH?

There are also different essecenses that both men and women project.
Man is more brawn,more analytical and rational,where women are more sensitive,more by emotions,gentlier and can to be analytical. ( cooking,childcare, running a home and the requirements there ) plus working outside the home.

When church structure has become so flagrantly out of order,in embracing sin in it's midst. I say then WE WORSHIP IN SPIRIT,where there is neither male nor female.

God also has a direct and different calling upon each of us. I say we ought to obey God rather than man!

 

[Gardenias]

@ResidentAlien ,
You are my brother in Christ,so peace to you and any difference we may have,we'll leave them for the Spirit to sort😊

 

[John146]

When church structure has become so flagrantly out of order,in embracing sin in it's midst. I say then WE WORSHIP IN SPIRIT,where there is neither male nor female.

God also has a direct and different calling upon each of us. I say we ought to obey God rather than man!

God's word is specific about how the local body is to be ordered. I believe that's what he was saying.

 

[Gardenias]

God's word is specific about how the local body is to be ordered. I believe that's what he was saying.

Yeah,I got that....thank you!