If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

[pittsburghjoe]

No, he didn't. All you are doing is making things up and ascribing them to people like Paul that never said anything you are claiming. The Pharisees weren't wrong about a physical kingdom either. They were wrong about when it would happen. You are the one who is wrong thinking this broken world is being run by Jesus and mortal Christians. You're doing a terrible job running the world.

There is a Kingdom we are Reborn into today ...according to you ...only those that make it to the very end of time can make it in.

 

[ewq1938]

There is a Kingdom we are Reborn into today ...according to you ...only those that make it to the very end of time can make it in.

No, I do not believe in that. Stop misrepresenting what I believe in.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

No, I do not believe in that. Stop misrepresenting what I believe in.

You have to choose, we all get raised for JESUS to Reign for a thousand years at the end or only those still alive get to enter it.

 

[ewq1938]

You have to choose, we all get raised for JESUS to Reign for a thousand years at the end or only those still alive get to enter it.

The resurrected dead, the living who are changed and the mortal nations of the world enter into the thousand years.

 

[DavidTree]

No, he didn't. All you are doing is making things up and ascribing them to people like Paul that never said anything you are claiming. The Pharisees weren't wrong about a physical kingdom either. They were wrong about when it would happen. You are the one who is wrong thinking this broken world is being run by Jesus and mortal Christians. You're doing a terrible job running the world.

We are currently at the opening of this Door:

Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The resurrected dead, the living who are changed and the mortal nations of the world enter into the thousand years.

Doesn't this mean the Judging would begin immediately?

Matthew 19:28
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Every eye will see JESUS on His Return?

 

[ewq1938]

for it will not come until the rebellion occurs

Otherwise known as the "pre-trib rebellion".

 

[ewq1938]

Yes. The judging of the 12 tribes of Israel happens immediately and continues for a thousand years.

Doesn't this mean the Judging would begin immediately?

Matthew 19:28
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Every eye will see JESUS on His Return?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Every eye will see JESUS ...that means everyone will know there is a GOD. This is a major problem from you.

So GOD is going to come back and let these people see Him ...and then not let them be Citizens for years? ...what?

 

[ewq1938]

Every eye will see JESUS ...that means everyone will know there is a GOD. This is a major problem from you.

That isn't a problem to anyone. It's just more nonsense from you.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

That isn't a problem to anyone. It's just more nonsense from you.

i edited this part in, maybe you didn't see it:
So GOD is going to come back and let these people see Him ...and then not let them be Citizens for years? ...what?

You realize that all these Kingdom Promises you demand for this 1000 years will only be for these lucky people? What are they reigning over if everyone knows there is a GOD?

 

[ewq1938]

i edited this part in, maybe you didn't see it:
So GOD is going to come back and let these people see Him ...and then not let them be Citizens for years? ...what?

This is a non-sensical question.

You realize that all these Kingdom Promises you demand for this 1000 years will only be for these lucky people? What are they reigning over if everyone knows there is a GOD?

The saints will reign over the unsaved. Knowing there is a God doesn't affect that in slightest.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

This is a non-sensical question.

The saints will reign over the unsaved. Knowing there is a God doesn't affect that in slightest.

Non-sensical or you don't want to think about it?

You must think unbelievers are as dumb as rocks. Actually, how are they unbelievers at this point?

 

[ewq1938]

Non-sensical or you don't want to think about it?

Non-sensical.

You must think unbelievers are as dumb as rocks. Actually, how are they unbelievers at this point?

Stop making personal assumptions and judgments about me and stick to the topic. This is just a form of the Ad Hominem fallacy.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Non-sensical.

Stop making personal assumptions and judgments about me and stick to the topic. This is just a form of the Ad Hominem fallacy.

Explain this:

Matthew 13:24-30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Also, the Scripture starts out curious ...sounds like now:

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

We are currently at the opening of this Door:

Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

This was about back then ...It eventually happened.

 

[DavidTree]

This was about back then ...It eventually happened.

NOPE - IMPOSSIBLE as this pertains to the Second Coming of Christ - Which we are presently waiting for His Coming.

It eventually WILL HAPPEN - Coming Soon - Be Ready

PEACE

 

[pittsburghjoe]

NOPE - IMPOSSIBLE as this pertains to the Second Coming of Christ - Which we are presently waiting for His Coming.

It eventually WILL HAPPEN - Coming Soon - Be Ready

PEACE

You are confusing "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him" with the Final Return. This was talking about The Coming of JESUS' Reign with Judgment. The Return is the Final Judgment. The Seven Seals have already started to be loosed ...if not all.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

NOPE - IMPOSSIBLE as this pertains to the Second Coming of Christ - Which we are presently waiting for His Coming.

It eventually WILL HAPPEN - Coming Soon - Be Ready

PEACE

You skip the next Verse, do you really think he was talking to us 2000 years later?:

Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.