If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

[ewq1938]

Explain this:

Matthew 13:24-30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

What's to explain? On the day of GWTJ tares are judged and cast into fire and the wheat are the righteous and barn in the NHNE.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

What's to explain? On the day of GWTJ tares are judged and cast into fire and the wheat are the righteous and barn in the NHNE.

You are saying The Righteous are gathered first.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

2 Thessalonians 2:5
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

Do you really think St. Paul the Apostle was with us 2000 years later?

 

[ewq1938]

You are saying The Righteous are gathered first.

The righteous are gathered first at the second coming. The burning of tares happens over a thousand years later at the GWTJ where they are gathered first for destruction.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The righteous are gathered first at the second coming. The burning of tares happens over a thousand years later at the GWTJ where they are gathered first for destruction.

So you are rewriting Scripture to say what you want? Read it again.

 

[ewq1938]

So you are rewriting Scripture to say what you want? Read it again.

No, I didn't re-write scripture. That's a false accusation which you are full of and have done over and over. There's a HUGE difference between who is gathered first at the second coming and who is gathered first at the GWTJ.

There's a lot of people reading this who don't post who can see your deceptive and false tactics.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Matthew 13:24-30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

 

[ewq1938]

Matthew 13:24-30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[Blik]

Every single Prophecy that has been given in scripture and has happened has been correctly told, and there isn't one that hasn't been carried out in the way scholars said it would be. The three fall feasts give us the plainest explanation of the fast days, and scholars who study those days pass often pass over this.

We must live in the kingdom of the world, but our true kingdom needs to be the kingdom of heaven. The four gospels are like the constitution of this kingdom. Christ said it is within us, as we accept the leader of this kingdom: Christ, within us.

When we follow the world instead of heaven we are to repent and be forgiven. The world pounds us with its rules all day long via the media in all its forms. We must choose to hear God's voice.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

We are currently at the opening of this Door:

Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

Matthew 16:28
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

 

[HatedForNoReason]

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:13-15 is talking about great white throne judgment that happens after old heaven and old earth is already burned to ashes by Jesus Christ.

 

[ewq1938]

Revelation 20:13-15 is talking about great white throne judgment that happens after old heaven and old earth is already burned to ashes by Jesus Christ.

The GWTJ happens BEFORE the old heaven and Earth are burned up.

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


See how before Earth is burned up so the New Earth can come to be that the sea still exists but after the new Earth there is no more sea?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The GWTJ happens BEFORE the old heaven and Earth are burned up.

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


See how before Earth is burned up so the New Earth can come to be that the sea still exists but after the new Earth there is no more sea?

It isn't talking about that kind of sea. The Kingdom we are Reborn into doesn't have a sea. society ...the beast system.

 

[ewq1938]

It isn't talking about that kind of sea.

Yes, it's talking about that kind of sea. The sea exists on the old Earth but not on new Earth which is further proof that the GWTJ is BEFORE the NHNE not after it as has been claimed. Scripture always refutes errant doctrine.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Yes, it's talking about that kind of sea. The sea exists on the old Earth but not on new Earth which is further proof that the GWTJ is BEFORE the NHNE not after it as has been claimed. Scripture always refutes errant doctrine.

Do you think beasts rise up out of the sea for no reason?

 

[HatedForNoReason]

The GWTJ happens BEFORE the old heaven and Earth are burned up.

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


See how before Earth is burned up so the New Earth can come to be that the sea still exists but after the new Earth there is no more sea?

2 Peter 3:7-14
King James Version

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

Why the need for resurrection of the dead than if old earth and old heaven haven't been burned yet?

 

[ewq1938]

Do you think beasts rise up out of the sea for no reason?

No. Do you think beasts rise up out of the sea for no reason?

 

[DavidTree]

You skip the next Verse, do you really think he was talking to us 2000 years later?:

Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

Paul is referring back to 1 Thessalonians = the First Letter he wrote to them.

Did you read 1 Thessalonian slike i asked you days ago? - easy short reading

If you did not, please do so that your understanding may increase as to the Will and Plan o God.

 

[ewq1938]

Why the need for resurrection of the dead than if old earth and old heaven haven't been burned yet?

Because the dead need to be alive to stand before the throne and be judged. That judgment will be a second death so they have to be alive to die a second time. This death is permanent with no possible resurrection.

 

[DavidTree]

2 Peter 3:7-14
King James Version

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

Why the need for resurrection of the dead than if old earth and old heaven haven't been burned yet?

Because this is relating to Revelation chapter 20 AFTER the 1,000 Year Period when satan is loosed from prison.

When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison, 8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.

9And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them. 10And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.