If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

[HatedForNoReason]

oh, satan also got you to say he will make a covenant for a week (of the 70 Weeks). he got you to steal JESUS' Victory and hand it to satan. WAKE UP!!!

Yea I ignore the time of 70 weeks prophecy, until God gives me understanding of it. I usually check the signs of events happening from the other prophecies throughout the bible, rather than years. Don't want to worry about tomorrow, I live by today. Let God take care of everything, way easier of living. The end times prophecies gets repeated same event, but different perspectives.
Glad I ignore anything I don't understand, until God reveals to me what it really means. Example bottoms verses, which are not literal...

Luke 17:28-36
New King James Version

28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
31 “In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his [a]goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back. 32 Remember Lot’s wife. 33 Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, in that night there will be two [b]men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left. 35 Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left. 36 [c]Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken (all of God's elects) and the other left (All nonelects).”

https://testallthings.com/2011/05/3...who-give-suck-in-the-dark-days-of-desolation/

https://testallthings.com/2007/08/02/a-study-of-genesis-chapter-19-verse-26/


Mark 13:15-20
New King James Version

15 Let him who is on the housetop not go down into the house, nor enter to take anything out of his house. 16 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. (1 John 2:15-17. Don't be like Lot's wife that turned into salt. Get ready to leave this world, when Jesus 2nd Coming happens) 17 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 18 And pray that your flight may not be in winter. 19 For in those days there will be tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the creation which God created until this time, nor ever shall be. 20 And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.

 

[ewq1938]

You need fake Israel to be a thing to make your Premill view work. You wouldn't even have this view if you lived before May 14 1948.

False. The early church were all premill until the Catholics created Amill in the 3rd century. The first known Amill was also someone who opposed the canonization of Revelation which isn't surprising because it speaks clearly about a future thousand years.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Luke 17:28-36
New King James Version

28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

That is a mind blowing verse. They saw the Son of Man Coming in the clouds! JESUS IS REIGNING NOW.

 

[ewq1938]

That is a mind blowing verse. They saw the Son of Man Coming in the clouds! JESUS IS REIGNING NOW.

Not on the Earth. The Earth is lawless and immoral and getting worse day by day.

Jesus is NOT reigning over His enemies now - according to Scripture

To reign means to rule over people and have complete control. Look around at the world. ISIS is murdering Christians and harming the growth of the gospel. The world is full is false gods and religions and evil practices.

It is clear someone else reigns this wicked, morally corrupt world currently:

Joh 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
Joh 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Prince here doesn't mean second in command or something like we think in modern English, it means the ruler, the first in rank or power:

G758
a?´????
archo¯n
ar'-khone
Present participle of G757; a first (in rank or power): - chief (ruler), magistrate, prince, ruler.


G758
a?´????
archo¯n
Thayer Definition:
1) a ruler, commander, chief, leader
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: present participle of G757
Citing in TDNT: 1:488, 81

According to Christ, the ruler of this world was to come after Christ left. We know from Rev 12 that after He ascended there was a war in heaven and satan was cast to the Earth just as Christ said would happen. According to Jesus Christ himself, the one reigning/ruling the world after His ascension would be satan!

Heb_2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.


This was written long after the cross and even at that time not all things were put under Him. That doesn't happen until the second coming.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Not on the Earth. The Earth is lawless and immoral and getting worse day by day.

Jesus is NOT reigning over His enemies now - according to Scripture

To reign means to rule over people and have complete control. Look around at the world. ISIS is murdering Christians and harming the growth of the gospel. The world is full is false gods and religions and evil practices.

It is clear someone else reigns this wicked, morally corrupt world currently:

Joh 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
Joh 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Prince here doesn't mean second in command or something like we think in modern English, it means the ruler, the first in rank or power:

G758
a?´????
archo¯n
ar'-khone
Present participle of G757; a first (in rank or power): - chief (ruler), magistrate, prince, ruler.


G758
a?´????
archo¯n
Thayer Definition:
1) a ruler, commander, chief, leader
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: present participle of G757
Citing in TDNT: 1:488, 81

According to Christ, the ruler of this world was to come after Christ left. We know from Rev 12 that after He ascended there was a war in heaven and satan was cast to the Earth just as Christ said would happen. According to Jesus Christ himself, the one reigning/ruling the world after His ascension would be satan!

Heb_2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.


This was written long after the cross and even at that time not all things were put under Him. That doesn't happen until the second coming.

Do Premillennialists think GOD is going to Reign physically on Earth and then after a thousand years people will join satan in thinking they can fight Physical GOD?

 

[ewq1938]

Do premillennialists think GOD is going to reign physically on Earth and then after a thousand years people will join satan in thinking they can fight physical GOD?

You should know this if you study the bible at all.

Satan has an army ready at Armageddon to fight Christ despite that being an impossible war to win.
Satan does it a second time after the thousand years when he bring an army to attack Jerusalem, where Christ is. Again, it is impossible for satan's army to win.

Satan just isn't very smart is he?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

You should know this if you study the bible at all.

Satan has an army ready at Armageddon to fight Christ despite that being an impossible war to win.
Satan does it a second time after the thousand years when he bring an army to attack Jerusalem, where Christ is. Again, it is impossible for satan's army to win.

Satan just isn't very smart is he?

oh, it is just satan doing the fighting, silly me. so people aren't that dumb and joining him.

hint: i'm pretty sure you already joined him.

 

[ewq1938]

hint: you already joined him.

You are a liar.

 

[HatedForNoReason]

satan deceived the nations with a nation ...Israel.

satan is well aware that Jews have been Judged ...so this is his way of sneaking into Christianity. he's got Christians bowing to Jews.

Revelation 17 woman (apostate church) that rides the beast (the sinful world). Found out all the churches I been to are full of nonelects=goats. Goat Church will get you to compromise, sin and more. Read James 4:4 and 1 John 2:15-17.
They teach false gospels and don't have the Holy Spirit.

They don't preach the bottom link. The bottom link will reveal, if you are one of God's elect or one of the nonelect (absolute predestined to the lake of fire). People check if their name is written in the book of life.

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...games-and-computer-games-are-all-sins.199859/

James 1:22-25
New King James Version

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.

 

[HatedForNoReason]

God wrote all of God's elects names in his book of life before the world was created. The nonelects are not in the book of life. God only gives the Holy Spirit to God's elects, some point in there lives. It's supernatural that now you have the power to reject the temptation to sin continually.

Romans 8:30
King James Version

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

You are a liar.

i was in your same boat, what do you think it means for satan to be loosed and deceive the nations? You don't think it is possible Premillennialism is the deceit? Did you read the posts on that last page of this thread?

 

[ewq1938]

i was in your same boat, what do you think it means for satan to be loosed and deceive the nations? You don't think it is possible Premillennialism is the deceit? Did you read the posts on that last page of this thread?

It's wrong to accuse a Christian of joining satan just because you disagree with a theological position such as Pre-Mill. It's petty, childish and unchristian.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

It's wrong to accuse a Christian of joining satan just because you disagree with a theological position such as Pre-Mill. It's petty, childish and unchristian.

Have you given up physical sin in your life ...or are you waiting for a mark of the beast ...or a rebuilt Temple to do it?

 

[ewq1938]

Have you given up physical sin in your life ...or are you waiting for a mark of the beast ...or a rebuilt Temple to do it?

Stop changing the subject. You need to repent for your false accusations.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Stop changing the subject. You need to repent for your false accusations.

That's what i thought. Get Right with GOD today, tomorrow is not promised. Stop with the excuses to continue physically sinning.

Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

 

[ewq1938]

That's what i thought. Get Right with GOD today, tomorrow is not promised. Stop with the excuses to continue physically sinning.

Stop the accusations.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

the mark of the beast, 666, and a rebuilt Temple is a cash grab sport. entertainment clowns.

distract you from what The Kingdom of The Body of CHRIST is about. How can JESUS stand in for you on The Cross unless you are in His Holy Image? That's the whole point of being in the Reborn Kingdom Image.

the lukewarm don't have enough oil.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

does being literal somehow excuse the Scriptures that tell you that a sinners prayer doesn't work? is that why you refuse to let go of being literal? is it a scapegoat for you?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Is The HOLY SPIRIT Interpreting Scripture for you if you can only read it literally?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Do you take 1 John 1:8 out of context to excuse your physical sins? "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

It’s saying you can’t avoid SALVATION by thinking your are good enough without being Reborn.
You have excuses to continue physically sinning.
What do you think “be Holy for I am Holy” means?

Galatians 5:24-25​

And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.​

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2 Timothy 2:19​

Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.​

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Does anyone get what it takes to actually hold The Reborn Image that SAVES? what do you think satan is tempting you with? How can JESUS Represent you on The Cross unless you have His Image (Blood)?
Do you know what lukewarm means or the parable of The Ten Virgins?

Hebrews 10:26​

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
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1 John 3:8–9 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.​

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9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

"Everybody who does not abide in Jesus sins. Those who abide in Jesus cannot sin because the seed of God is within them.​

However sin still dwells within them; they just don’t act on it, because they have born anew into the kingdom of God, and now walk by the Spirit and not by the flesh."​

Jon David Banks​

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1 John 1:6-8 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:​

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JESUS said to go and sin no more. To actually Believe in JESUS is to change your perception of reality to form to GOD'S Image. Do you want GOD to Know you at Judgment or not? You have to actively hate sin if you expect to be considered REBORN. Give up the animal side. Develop self control through Faith. Accept GOD'S Love that forms you to His inseparable Image. Make that Love Two-Way.

1 John‬ 2:15–17​

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.​

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it takes more than saying a sinners prayer to uphold the Reborn Holy Image. You can’t walk in The Spirit unless you get rid of physical sins in your life. To plan to physically sin in the future is to have a plan that isn’t from GOD.
to have your own plan for life is to use the tree of knowledge.