deliverance ministry

[AnandaHya]

what does it mean and is it helping or hurting the church?

http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/deliverance_ministry.php

A educated deliverance minister should be knowledgeable with all three of these very important elements, and be prepared to address them without hesitation:

Inner healing: Many times when a person has been abused, rejected, wounded, or hurt in some way, there is an emotional wound that needs to be healed. Demons will use these wounds and weaknesses against the person, as leverage to hold them in bondage and get them to re-open doors so that they can re-enter. Inner healing is a vital step in the overall restoration process that needs to take place in the lives of many who are seeking deliverance. There is more information on this process in the teaching Steps to Inner Healing.

Tearing down strongholds: Strongholds are incorrect thinking patterns that people develop over time, and are often set up and nurtured by demons through lies and deception. Demons thrive on strongholds, and use them to hang around a person and torment them. I recommend reading the teaching on Strongholds for a clear insight into exactly what a stronghold is, and how to go about tearing them down. Failing to tear down strongholds can hold up a deliverance and prevent us from walking in complete spiritual freedom.

Removing legal rights: Legal rights are things that give demons permission to enter and remain in our lives. Before demons can often be cast out, it is important to address and remove these legal rights. The teaching on Legal Rights lists the most common legal rights and how you can go about removing them. Failing to remove legal rights can hold up a deliverance very easily.

Casting out the demons: This requires two basic elements: knowledge of your authority in Christ Jesus over the powers of the enemy, and faith in that authority. Demons are cast out with a simple spoken command, such as, "I command the spirit of fear to come out in the name of Jesus!" You can learn more about your authority and how it works from the teaching on Spiritual Authority.

 

[zone]

what does it mean and is it helping or hurting the church?

The Ministry of Deliverance

A educated deliverance minister should be knowledgeable with all three of these very important elements, and be prepared to address them without hesitation:

Inner healing: Many times when a person has been abused, rejected, wounded, or hurt in some way, there is an emotional wound that needs to be healed. Demons will use these wounds and weaknesses against the person, as leverage to hold them in bondage and get them to re-open doors so that they can re-enter. Inner healing is a vital step in the overall restoration process that needs to take place in the lives of many who are seeking deliverance. There is more information on this process in the teaching Steps to Inner Healing.

Tearing down strongholds: Strongholds are incorrect thinking patterns that people develop over time, and are often set up and nurtured by demons through lies and deception. Demons thrive on strongholds, and use them to hang around a person and torment them. I recommend reading the teaching on Strongholds for a clear insight into exactly what a stronghold is, and how to go about tearing them down. Failing to tear down strongholds can hold up a deliverance and prevent us from walking in complete spiritual freedom.

Removing legal rights: Legal rights are things that give demons permission to enter and remain in our lives. Before demons can often be cast out, it is important to address and remove these legal rights. The teaching on Legal Rights lists the most common legal rights and how you can go about removing them. Failing to remove legal rights can hold up a deliverance very easily.

Casting out the demons: This requires two basic elements: knowledge of your authority in Christ Jesus over the powers of the enemy, and faith in that authority. Demons are cast out with a simple spoken command, such as, "I command the spirit of fear to come out in the name of Jesus!" You can learn more about your authority and how it works from the teaching on Spiritual Authority.

nonsense.....

 

[phil36]

I was just about to say the same thing....nonsense

 

[Red33]

I hope that believers will recognize that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood and what that means... but we wrestle AGAINST principalities and AGAINST powers and AGAINST rulers of the darkness of this world and AGAINST spiritual wickedness in high places (Eph 6:12). But if you believe that you are presently in the Millennium Reign of Christ and that Satan is presently bound according to (Rev 20:1-3), then these things are mere nonsense to you.

This letter was written to the church at Ephesus decades after Christ had ascended to the right hand of the Father and is in no conflict with (Col 2:15). The verb 'wrestle' in (Eph 6:12) is in the present tense and indicative mood making it a statement of fact with continuous action. In other words there is going to be a constant contest and struggled AGAINST principalities, powers, rulers of darkness and spiritual wickedness in high places. To not accept this fact of truth and to teach others contrary of this wisdom and insight is to not discern the grace and truth of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[AnandaHya]

Red how do people continously "wrestle" against spiritual wickedness in high places?

Zone and Phil, why do so many who call themselves Christians believe and teach it?

 

[Abiding]

These ideas prove their faith in the HolySpirits impotance, and makes it the work of man. They talk of the supernatural ,yet they believe it to be done physically. Washing and regeneration comes from not the word and the Spirit but someone who stumbles upon a website and listens to a few sermons, or reads a few books, or even takes some coarses.

If I didnt believe in John 17 id say these people could keep someone from believing. Just they way they dishonor Him and make us look like clowns following a God with so little power, order, or wisdom. And it also shows their attitude to the power of the gospel, prayer, and the means and necessity of growth in grace. It decieves the weak and young and does the opposite of what it promices. But it has been given in the list of signs and wonders Jesus brings up on judgement day, and makes for exciting boastings..opps i mean testimonies.

 

[Red33]

Red how do people continously "wrestle" against spiritual wickedness in high places?

Zone and Phil, why do so many who call themselves Christians believe and teach it?

AnadaHya,

That is a good question and I'm not ignoring it and will have an answer for you shortly.

 

[NoahsMom]

Inner healing: Many times when a person has been abused, rejected, wounded, or hurt in some way, there is an emotional wound that needs to be healed.Agree.

Demons will use these wounds and weaknesses against the person, as leverage to hold them in bondage and get them to re-open doors so that they can re-enter.Once I gave it to the Lord, Thats just it, I gave it.
Removing legal rights: Legal rights are things that give demons permission to enter and remain in our lives. Before demons can often be cast out, it is important to address and remove these legal rights. The teaching on Legal Rights lists the most common legal rights and how you can go about removing them. Failing to remove legal rights can hold up a deliverance very easily.Demons have legal rights ? Never heard of this, and Im bein serious..........

 

[Abiding]

they dont have rights but they will take a free lunch

 

[zone]

Inner healing: Many times when a person has been abused, rejected, wounded, or hurt in some way, there is an emotional wound that needs to be healed.Agree.

Demons will use these wounds and weaknesses against the person, as leverage to hold them in bondage and get them to re-open doors so that they can re-enter.Once I gave it to the Lord, Thats just it, I gave it.
Removing legal rights: Legal rights are things that give demons permission to enter and remain in our lives. Before demons can often be cast out, it is important to address and remove these legal rights. The teaching on Legal Rights lists the most common legal rights and how you can go about removing them. Failing to remove legal rights can hold up a deliverance very easily.Demons have legal rights ? Never heard of this, and Im bein serious..........

Demons have legal rights ? Never heard of this, and Im bein serious..........

"i plead the 5th!"


Once I gave it to the Lord, Thats just it, I gave it.

amen NM...

Phillipians 3
But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.

 

[loveschild]

Inner healing: Many times when a person has been abused, rejected, wounded, or hurt in some way, there is an emotional wound that needs to be healed.Agree.

Demons will use these wounds and weaknesses against the person, as leverage to hold them in bondage and get them to re-open doors so that they can re-enter.Once I gave it to the Lord, Thats just it, I gave it.
Removing legal rights: Legal rights are things that give demons permission to enter and remain in our lives. Before demons can often be cast out, it is important to address and remove these legal rights. The teaching on Legal Rights lists the most common legal rights and how you can go about removing them. Failing to remove legal rights can hold up a deliverance very easily.Demons have legal rights ? Never heard of this, and Im bein serious..........

Sin gives legal rights to demons to enter human bodies.
Hate gives legal rights to demons.
Not forgiving gives legal rights to demons.
Bitterness gives legal rights to demons.
Sexual sins gives legal rights to demons.
Listening to ungodly music gives legal rights to demons.
Depression gives legal rights to demons.
False teachers and taking in false teachings gives legal rights to demons.
Sins of the parents gives legal rights to demons for the parents and the children.
Not being filled up with the word gives legal rights to demons.
There's thousands more ways demons have rights to go into people.
Any church that is not fighting the evil spirits has given rights to demons to enter them.

 

[AnandaHya]

having the Holy Spirit reside in your heart and soul cancels out any legal right a demon may claim.

demons only have rights when you live under the LAW and not under GRACE.

 

[Red33]

Red how do people continously "wrestle" against spiritual wickedness in high places?

Zone and Phil, why do so many who call themselves Christians believe and teach it?

First, wrestling against spiritual wickedness in high places is never to be done alone as an individual because these are strategies against a local church body that may or may not include a single individual. The purpose of these strategies is to isolate a local assembly and discredit the word that is being preached that is having a great effect in areas of strongholds that have held people captive for long periods of time, who are being set free and lost souls are being converted to the Lord, especially entire families. These strategies consist of causing trouble within that local assembly that will bring the leadership (especially the pastor-teacher) and the word preached into some kind of suspect through slander, accusation or malignity.

It could be a sin of the past or a random accusation from someone that is prominent in that local assembly. It could be in the form of divisions within certain marriages and families to get believers occupied with problems instead of the will of God. It could be a conspiracy against certain Spirit-filled believers in the church who are doing the will of God and being promoted by grace in that local assembly. It could also be an inflamed disagreement about doctrine or how certain things should be handled in the church. There are diverse strategies and devises that demons, who are disembodied spirits, can use to cause trouble in the local assembly and get believers occupied by what is going on instead of walking by faith in the promises of God that have been given to them by grace.

The spiritual wickedness involves the prince and power of the air and a confederated host of demons or disembodied spirits that has their domain in the atmosphere just above the earth (the lower atmosphere or the first heaven). Here they function in an organized fashion as an undivided kingdom to bring strategies against believers and assemblies of believers that make up the church to discredit and mock Jesus Christ as the Creator, God's only begotten Son and all that was accomplished for the redemption of man through the death, burial, resurrection and ascension of Christ.

 

[zone]

Sin gives legal rights to demons to enter human bodies.
Hate gives legal rights to demons.
Not forgiving gives legal rights to demons.
Bitterness gives legal rights to demons.
Sexual sins gives legal rights to demons.
Listening to ungodly music gives legal rights to demons.
Depression gives legal rights to demons.
False teachers and taking in false teachings gives legal rights to demons.
Sins of the parents gives legal rights to demons for the parents and the children.
Not being filled up with the word gives legal rights to demons.
There's thousands more ways demons have rights to go into people.
Any church that is not fighting the evil spirits has given rights to demons to enter them.

ONLY GOD GIVES DEMONS 'LEGAL' RIGHTS TO DO ANYTHING.

 

[AnandaHya]

I was listening to this sermon about the armor of God I found interesting....

http://media.sermonindex.net/22/SID22005.mp3

 

[loveschild]

having the Holy Spirit reside in your heart and soul cancels out any legal right a demon may claim.

demons only have rights when you live under the LAW and not under GRACE.

You don't know what your talking about. Why are you hearing hearing demons if the Holy Spirit canceled it out??

 

[zone]

You don't know what your talking about. Why are you hearing hearing demons if the Holy Spirit canceled it out??

beacuse she was dabbling in THE UNBIBLICAL OCCULT WARFARE you do.

thankfully she repented.

 

[AnandaHya]

You don't know what your talking about. Why are you hearing hearing demons if the Holy Spirit canceled it out??

Because God allows it so I might be warned of the lies people claiming to be "helping" me will tell me, that way when I hear the words spoken I know they are from demons and not God.

Example:
Lie: "Sin gives legal rights to demons to enter human bodies."

Truth: Demons can not enter any human body that has the indwelling Holy Spirit. they can only whisper lies OUTSIDE the human bodies. THEY do not possess God's people, they just try and get invited in by causing the people to sin and reject GOD. Even then they can NOT enter but instead keep the person from being an effective witness to winning souls to Christ. When the person has the HOLY SPIRIT MATURE inside them and the full armor of GOD firmly in place then they can do battle and help and teach others. that is why I test any who wish to "teach" me anything..

If they sin they have the breastplate of righteousness, NOT their righteousness But CHRIST's who is perfect. the demons will lie and say it is their sin that allows them rights to torment them, but it is a LIE.

 

[Gabriel777]

These type of practices are a form of sorcery that open you up to demon spirits and I've seen this with my own eyes. It's obviously not from God

 

[MaggieMye]

OP: Great post!! Very INFORMATIVE. Thumb's up!

Zone and Phil: Nonsense to your "nonsense"!

Abiding: "These ideas prove their faith in the Holy Spiri'ts impotance importance??, and makes it the work of man. They talk of the supernatural ,yet they believe it to be done physically. Many prophetic ACTS were in the Bible. Washing and regeneration comes from not the word and the Spirit but someone who stumbles upon a website and listens to a few sermons, or reads a few books, or even takes some coarses. Discernment is a GIFT that we CAN ASK FOR.

If I didnt believe in John 17 id say these people could keep someone from believing. Just they way they dishonor Him and make us look like clowns following a God with so little power, order, or wisdom. And it also shows their attitude to the power of the gospel, prayer, and the means and necessity of growth in grace. It decieves the weak and young and does the opposite of what it promices. But it has been given in the list of signs and wonders Jesus brings up on judgement day, and makes for exciting boastings..opps i mean testimonies. " Teachings on deliverance and warfare EMPOWER the weak and EDUCATE the unknowledgeable. And if they don't, it's usually because there is a DEMON of religion...a religious spirit, that is interfering with the person's ability to understand and receive.​

ANA: how do people continously "wrestle" against spiritual wickedness in high places? This is the 'resisting the enemy' as well as taking authority and commanding them to leave when you recognize or realize their presence; it is also striving to rest in the Lord; it is going to the Cross when Holy Spirit convicts you of something. It is ALL done so that the enemy...the wicked spirits...cannot succeed against us.

Zone and Phil, why do so many who call themselves Christians believe and teach it? Because it is a reality that far too many do not acknowledge.​

Noah's Mom: "Demons will use these wounds and weaknesses against the person, as leverage to hold them in bondage and get them to re-open doors so that they can re-enter. Once I gave it to the Lord, Thats just it, I gave it. You might give it to the Lord, but the demons are persistent and will repeatedly attack, annoy, and try to influence you!
Removing legal rights: Legal rights are things that give demons permission to enter and remain in our lives. Before demons can often be cast out, it is important to address and remove these legal rights. The teaching on Legal Rights lists the most common legal rights and how you can go about removing them. Failing to remove legal rights can hold up a deliverance very easily.Demons have legal rights ? Never heard of this, and Im bein serious.........." Every time we sin we give the demonic a legal right to attack us, to influence us, to use that 'open door' to gain access to our lives. Our rightEOUSNESS render them right-less!​

# 11, Loveschild: EXACTLY!!

ANA: "having the Holy Spirit reside in your heart and soul cancels out any legal right a demon may claim. No, it does not. Every believer has Jesus in their heart. Every one that has had the baptism of the Holy Spirit is empowered for ministry by the Holy Spirit. However, EVERY believer, spirit-filled or not, sins, hopefully without intent. (and that thought is for another thread). And sin is what opens the door.

demons only have rights when you live under the LAW and not under GRACE. " Not true and you will not find that in scripture.​

ZONE: "ONLY GOD GIVES DEMONS 'LEGAL' RIGHTS TO DO ANYTHING. " That's RIGHT !! NOW you are beginning to understand! God has given the demons the RIGHT to accost us when we sin. It is our CHOICE to sin and when we do, they have a God-given right to step in. God created them FOR the purpose of evil...the goal being that when we sin and are attacked because of that, we turn to Him and seek refuge.​

Originally Posted by loveschild

　You don't know what your talking about. Why are you hearing hearing demons if the Holy Spirit canceled it out? Excellent point!​

ZONE: because she was dabbling in THE UNBIBLICAL OCCULT WARFARE you do.
Well if there is "occult warfare" just WHO are they warring AGAINST?? Yeah,....us and our Lord.​

ANA: Loveschild: "You don't know what your talking about. Why are you hearing hearing demons if the Holy Spirit canceled it out??"
Ana: "Because God allows it so I might be warned of the lies people claiming to be "helping" me will tell me, that way when I hear the words spoken I know they are from demons and not God." No Anandhya. Hearing demons is not the same thing as hearing ignorant people. You SHOULD be able to hear both the Holy Spirit AND demons...everyone does, but most do not recognize the evil or nasty thoughts as being from demons. The KEY is DISCERNMENT. And you can ask the Lord, daily even, for discernment so you can better decipher between His voice and theirs. The reason that the Lord tells us in HIs word, to have His word written upon our hearts is so that when we DO get a thought from the enemy, we will have a working knowledge of His word by which to judge its source.

Example:
Lie: "Sin gives legal rights to demons to enter human bodies." Truth

Truth: Demons can not enter any human body that has the indwelling Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit resides in our spiritual HEARTs and SOULs but the demons can enter the FLESH. they can only whisper lies OUTSIDE the human bodies. THEY do not possess God's people, Correct. Believers are POssessed by Holy Spirit they just try and get invited in So they CAN get in... by causing the people to sin and reject GOD. Even then they can NOT enter but instead keep the person from being an effective witness to winning souls to Christ. The fact that a person that has sinned is carrying an evil entity (until they repent) does render them less effective. But it isn't that the get in and then the person sins. It's the other way around...the person sins and opens the door and then it comes in. When the person has the HOLY SPIRIT MATURE inside them and the full armor of GOD firmly in place then they can do battle and help and teach others. ONLY if they understand HOW to appropriate what Christ did on the cross. And...FYI, one does not put on the armor but standing up and reciting what the armor is. The 'wearing' of the Amour is both a character issue and a prophetic act. that is why I test any who wish to "teach" me anything.. That is wisdom.

If they sin they have the breastplate of righteousness, NOT their righteousness But CHRIST's who is perfect. IF they sin and do not repent, that breastplate is damaged and not in the protective condition that the Lord designed it to be. the demons will lie and say it is their sin that allows them rights to torment them, but it is a LIE. HUH?? Yes, demons lie. That is what they were created to do. It's their JOB! Demons do not sin, they do wickedness as God designed them to do. It is OUR sin that allows them the right to attack.​