Russia preparing for war

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Yeah, I know...a nuclear war's coming, tell me about it.
 

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Throughout the ages various cultures and countries have tried to pinpoint the Gog prophecy.

When France invaded Russia during the 19th Napoleonic Wars, many Russian theologians at the time were calling it “The War of Gog and Magog.”

Guesses about the said prophecy extend back further in time. Some theologians from the first century thought it was talking about Alexander the Great.

During the Cold War, some Christian Americans believed Magog was Russia because the Soviet Union was our country’s mortal enemy at the time. The Cold War has been over with for thirty years now, so I don’t know why you would think Russia is going to initiate the end of the world.

These days I’ve heard some Evangelical Christians talking about how they think Magog is Iran, since tensions between the US and Iran are high now.

All explanations are inconsistent, but do you see the common denominator? Theologians who believe in a literal interpretation of the Book of Revelation have tendency to think their national enemies are who the Bible is describing.

When interpreting elusive biblical scripture like the Revelation texts, I think the simplest answer is the correct answer. The Preterist view seems to be it.
The full Preterist view was first promoted by a Jesuit theologian in order to counter claims that the Pope was the Antichrist by pushing all the bible prophecies surrounding the last days into the remote past. There is a partial Preterist view that supports this version but still maintains that the second coming will occur in the future. I see the truth to be closer to this version.
None of the main positions regarding this subject are entirely satisfactory.

The History of Russia and its development together with most of the current world map make
for fascinating study if one is interested. However the Bible is not a current secular history or geography book. It deals with populated areas of the earth and spiritual matters associated
with them.


Jesus said ''For judgement I have come into the world so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind'' Some Pharisees who were with him heard him say this and asked What?
Are we blind too? Jesus said ''If you were blind you would not be guilty but now you claim you can see your guilt remains''

John 9 vs 40-41 Gideon's version

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him and without him
was not anything made that was made. In him was life and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in the darkness and the darkness comprehended it not.

John 1 vs 1-5 KJV

That was the true light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

John 1 vs 9 KJV
 

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The good news is Russia is a kind of let's let bygones be bygones country. Besides if there education system is anything like ours what Germany did to them in WWII is ancient history. I know the 30th anniversary of the collapse of the USSR is coming up for this Christmas. What a great Christmas that was with everyone rejoicing that we now had peace and security. I would think Russia would have a great big celebration planned. Maybe the Great Saint Nick from Russia will visit every home in the US this Christmas. They know if we have been bad or good and who knows better if this whole Russia hoax and Laptop from hell is real or not.

Anyway, God is not mocked, whatever a man sows that shall he reap. As long as the CIA has been sowing peace and good will among men we can feel secure knowing that is what we will reap.
 

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The good news is Russia is a kind of let's let bygones be bygones country. Besides if there education system is anything like ours what Germany did to them in WWII is ancient history. I know the 30th anniversary of the collapse of the USSR is coming up for this Christmas. What a great Christmas that was with everyone rejoicing that we now had peace and security. I would think Russia would have a great big celebration planned. Maybe the Great Saint Nick from Russia will visit every home in the US this Christmas. They know if we have been bad or good and who knows better if this whole Russia hoax and Laptop from hell is real or not.

Anyway, God is not mocked, whatever a man sows that shall he reap. As long as the CIA has been sowing peace and good will among men we can feel secure knowing that is what we will reap.
'' What a great Christmas that was with everyone rejoicing that we now had peace and security''

For when they shall say Peace and safety then sudden destruction cometh upon them
as travail upon a woman with child and they shall not escape.

1 Thessalonians 5 vs 3 KJV
 
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'' What a great Christmas that was with everyone rejoicing that we now had peace and security''

For when they shall say Peace and safety then sudden destruction cometh upon them
as travail upon a woman with child and they shall not escape.

1 Thessalonians 5 vs 3 KJV
Peace and security scripture directed at israel in first half of the tribulation.
 
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Peace and security scripture directed at israel in first half of the tribulation.
It's talking about the peace and safety that Satan does for all the nonelects. All nonelects will worship Satan. Than the Real Jesus Christ comes shortly after "sudden destruction", Great White Throne Judgment.
 

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It's talking about the peace and safety that Satan does for all the nonelects. All nonelects will worship Satan. Than the Real Jesus Christ comes shortly after "sudden destruction", Great White Throne Judgment.
I agree up to a point but we don't know how long it will be before Jesus returns. I believe that the world will and is experiencing a time prior to the Antichrist being revealed. Jesus listed the worlds conditions leading up to his second coming in Matthew 23 and 24. Nations rising against nations
earthquakes famines and pestilences in many places wars and rumours of wars false Christs. If
anyone thinks that everything is fine and its only the media, conspiracy theorists Biden and Putin
that are making false claims. All I can say is that there is something very wrong with their world
view of things and they should get their heads from out of the blankets as soon as possible.
 
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The word prophesies trouble, but to not do everything possible to avoid it is insane. Nuclear first strike against Russia. It seems the virus is affecting people's brains!
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God." - Matthew 5:9
 

tanakh

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The word prophesies trouble, but to not do everything possible to avoid it is insane. Nuclear first strike against Russia. It seems the virus is affecting people's brains!
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God." - Matthew 5:9
It certainly is affecting some peoples brains. Taking text out of context doesn't help either.
Should we do everything possible to prevent Armageddon and the second coming as well
neither will be very peaceful. ''trouble'' is a huge understatement. I am attempting to warn people away from their complacency. What they do or think about it is in their hands.
 

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It certainly is affecting some peoples brains. Taking text out of context doesn't help either.
Should we do everything possible to prevent Armageddon and the second coming as well
neither will be very peaceful. ''trouble'' is a huge understatement. I am attempting to warn people away from their complacency. What they do or think about it is in their hands.
Not just trouble but "sudden destruction" and "her judgement will come in one hour".
 
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It is always too little and too late. NATO has no teeth anymore, and the American military now prefers to go "Woke" and broke. If the black Secretary of Defense has his way, there will be no military in the USA.

So all this talk is just hot air. Putin can do whatever he pleases. In fact he could have taken control of all of Europe by now. In one sense he does. He uses the purchase of natural gas from Russia to call the shots. When Russia first invaded Ukraine (2014), Obama simply stood by, so NATO also stood by.
Whoa whoa there, what in the world do you mean “black Secretary of Defence”.

That is a racial slur sir. You need to check your spirit and see if the Holy Ghost is in there.
 

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Whoa whoa there, what in the world do you mean “black Secretary of Defence”.
The black Secretary of Defense is trying to destroy the military by promoting Black Racism through Critical Race Theory but lies about it.

Amid The Pentagon’s CRT Campaign, Lloyd Austin Says ‘It’s Really Important’ The Military Is ‘Apolitical’
https://dailycaller.com/2021/07/21/...loyd-austin-mark-milley-critical-race-theory/

The Military just doubled down on promoting Critical Race Theory in the Armed Forces
"As it turns out, radical professors within the U.S. Military are indeed teaching CRT, and it could have disastrous consequences for the future of the U.S. Armed Forces. Soldiers and military personnel must be able to create tight bonds and unequivocally trust their peers in order to be a formidable fighting force. The last thing the country needs is our own troops turning on each other because of the color of their skin."
https://conservativeundergroundnews...ing-critical-race-theory-in-the-armed-forces/

How Critical Race Theory Degrades Our National Defense
"Ever since the Biden administration came to power, the promotion of critical race theory has accelerated in the ranks. In February, following the Capitol riots, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin ordered a “stand down” in the military searching for “extremism” in the ranks, creating the Countering Extremism Working Group to implement his orders. According to Lt. Gen Jerry Boykin (ret.), Secretary Austin based this initiative on the assumption that the military is riddled with “white supremacists,” an assumption rooted in CRT. "
 

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The only reason the US dollar has not collapses is because we are the reserve currency and the only reason for that is because oil countries sell oil for US dollars.

However, Turkey, Lebanon and iran are all suffering major hits to their currency. Just like Weimar Germany people go to war when this happens. Russia is already on the brink of war and wants to cut a deal with the Middle East to supply the security in exchange for them to trade in Russian currency.

People go to wars over being the guys that get to print money. After all that is what the Mark of the beast is all about.
 

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Wow, look at this!

Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Lebanon and Turkey are all in very serious economic collapse.


A referendum against the government. Countries go to war when the situation gets this bad.
 

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Scary Similarities

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021...e-a-tragedy-violation-of-russian-sovereignty/

“As for sovereignty, I saw it when I was prime minister in 1999, when following the beginning of our active combat operations in the North Caucasus an IMF mission demanded we stop them,” the president recalled. “When I asked what the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, had to do with that, they told me that they thought it would impact the economy adversely. We argued that we were strengthening our statehood and, hence, a possibility for more efficient work in the economic sphere, but our arguments were ignored.”

Putin is saying the IMF treated Russia abusively the same way Germany was treated abusively after WWI

The 30th anniversary of the collapse of the USSR is December 25th, 2021. Putin is now publicly saying he blames the IMF for treating Russia abusively. Anyone familiar with the prophecies concerning Russia know that this will not end well. Couple this with the dire economic situation of Iran, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Turkey and the pot is boiling.
 

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It will be nice to get out of this place!

Jesus will be saying “Come up Here!” so we can get out of this place

Jesus has a mystery and says "the seven lampstands are the seven churches"


Rev 1:20 “As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches

Jesus says He "walks among the seven golden lamp stands"

Rev 2:1“To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: The One who holds the seven stars in His right hand, the One who walks among the seven golden lampstands, says this:

Now Jesus is saying He "has the Seven Spirits of God". We see where they come from and where they go.

Rev 3:1 “To the angel of the church in Sardis write: He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars, says this: ‘I know your deeds, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.

There is a door open in heaven and a Voice like a trumpet "Says Come Up Here"
"After These Things"


Rev 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door open in heaven, and the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a trumpet speaking with me, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things.

After a reception of lightning and thunder Seven Lamps of Fire appear in front of the throne; and look what it says they are. Now the lamps that were on earth are before the throne, and do you remember what Jesus said the lamps were: that's right He said they were the churches; But now they are being called the Seven Spirits of God. And it just keeps getting better.

Rev 4:5 Out from the throne come flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder. And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God

Let's do a little review: Jesus said that the seven golden lamps on earth are the churches. Then after a voice like the sound of trumpet says come up here, and after a reception of lightning and thunder coming out from the throne: now the seven lamps are in heaven, but now they are being called the Seven Spirit of God. So you can look at the previous verse to see that it's all true. But move forward is the greatest thing we could ever see. So now we know the Seven Spirits of God are the Seven Churches.

Rev 5:6 And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, that were sent out into all the earth.

So there we have it. The greatest thing one could ever imagine: Right there in the Head of the Lamb is Seven Eyes that are said to be the Seven Spirits of God that were sent out into ALL THE EARTH. So We are on The Throne Just As Jesus Promised We would be. Therefore, We are Raptured off of the Earth and seated on Our throne, Immediately before all the Murder and Mayhem begins.

Below is the Promise.

Rev 3:21-22 ‘He who overcomes, I will grant to Him to sit down with Me on My throne, just as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

Dan 7:13“I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, One like a Son of Man was coming on the clouds of heaven. And He came up to be presented before the Ancient of Days.

People ask where the Rapture is in the old Testament. It's in the Little Book/Daniel where we see many aspects of Revelations.

Rev 3:22 ‘He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches.’”
 
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The full Preterist view was first promoted by a Jesuit theologian in order to counter claims that the Pope was the Antichrist by pushing all the bible prophecies surrounding the last days into the remote past. There is a partial Preterist view that supports this version but still maintains that the second coming will occur in the future. I see the truth to be closer to this version.
None of the main positions regarding this subject are entirely satisfactory.

The History of Russia and its development together with most of the current world map make
for fascinating study if one is interested. However the Bible is not a current secular history or geography book. It deals with populated areas of the earth and spiritual matters associated
with them.


Jesus said ''For judgement I have come into the world so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind'' Some Pharisees who were with him heard him say this and asked What?
Are we blind too? Jesus said ''If you were blind you would not be guilty but now you claim you can see your guilt remains''

John 9 vs 40-41 Gideon's version

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him and without him
was not anything made that was made. In him was life and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in the darkness and the darkness comprehended it not.

John 1 vs 1-5 KJV

That was the true light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

John 1 vs 9 KJV
Those scriptures don’t have any relevancy to the topic we’re discussing.
 

tanakh

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Those scriptures don’t have any relevancy to the topic we’re discussing.
They may not be relevant to you but they are relevant to those who believe that all truth is found in God. Here is a few questions for you to ponder

If the Big Bang theory is correct what was it that went bang ?
Where did the thing that went bang come from originally?
Is this thing that went bang to be considered as God ?
If it wasn't God then where did it come from?
If it isn't God then someone must have created it.
Should that someone be considered to be God?

The final question is that whatever you conceive to be God you
can also take on board that He/She knows and motivates everything
that goes on in the world including the thoughts and aspirations
of all the world leaders including those in Russia