California Fear mongering before Christmas

[CS1]

increase in cases, CDPH has mandated that everyone in California wear a mask in indoor publics

Everyone is required to wear masks in the following settings:

• Indoor public spaces (until January 15, 2022)
• Public transit
• Healthcare settings (including long term care facilities)
• Adult and senior care facilities
• Indoors in K-12 schools, childcare, and other youth settings
• State and local correctional facilities and detention centers
• Homeless shelters, emergency shelters, and cooling centers

Mask-wearing exemptions
The following individuals are exempt from wearing masks at all times:

• Children under two years old, due to the risk of suffocation.
• People with:
  • A medical condition,
  • Mental health condition, or
  • Disability that precludes wearing a mask. This includes:
    • Those for whom a mask could obstruct breathing
    • Who are unconscious or incapacitated
    • Unable to remove a mask without assistance

The California Governor is going to do everything he can to hurt the Christmas vacation. Knowing full well he will not abide by his own ruling as he is the elite. Churches more now than ever need to be open during this season. I will not comply.

 

[RichMan]

Why do children of God continue to live in such a sinful place?

 

[JTB]

I find it amusing that people who don't fear a disease that has played a part in 800k deaths fear the means by which to control it.

I for one don't fear either.

 

[ZNP]

I find it amusing that people who don't fear a disease that has played a part in 800k deaths fear the means by which to control it.

I for one don't fear either.

Right, California is the example of how to control the disease. So much for respecting the science and the data.

 

[RichMan]

I find it amusing that people who don't fear a disease that has played a part in 800k deaths fear the means by which to control it.

I for one don't fear either.

I see little evidence that California's efforts have controlled the disease.
This is about power over and control of the people.

 

[ZNP]

I see little evidence that California's efforts have controlled the disease.
This is about power over and control of the people.

If you want to know what is the state with the worst leadership, the one state that has been driven into the ground faster and more intensely than any other look no further than California.

 

[JTB]

Right, California is the example of how to control the disease. So much for respecting the science and the data.

The science and data won't be settled for another 5-10 years to come. Only those with myopic attention spans would expect to know everything now.

In the meantime...

 

[JTB]

I see little evidence that California's efforts have controlled the disease.
This is about power over and control of the people.

Yes, this IS being used to exercise power and control over the people. No argument there. It's also being used to condition people for something bigger coming just shortly down the road.

But covid is real. And real people, albeit in small numbers, are dying and suffering long term effects from it (I know many of them). And I apologize, but I find it hard to accept the "it sucks to be them" mindset. Masks, distancing, vaccines, they're not foolproof. But if they save JUST ONE PERSON from death or disability, then for those few I will do it.

Again, I have to ask, if Jesus knew before He went to the cross that it would only save a small few, what if He decided those few weren't worth it and opted to not to do it?

 

[JTB]

If you want to know what is the state with the worst leadership, the one state that has been driven into the ground faster and more intensely than any other look no further than California.

Yeah, being the 5TH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD is such a failure! Burn!

Republicans once preached that states are 'little laboratories of democracy'. So after decades of experimentation, when are you right handers going to ever look at and consider the lab results?

And no, I'm not a libertard.

 

[ZNP]

The science and data won't be settled for another 5-10 years to come. Only those with myopic attention spans would expect to know everything now.

In the meantime...

Really? We have been studying viral infections for 100 years. Why isn't all of that research valid? We have studies and data on lockdowns, shutdowns, and other techniques being used around the world, why can't we look at those?

The bottom line is when you have a virus like Covid19 that is not very deadly, then for healthy people who do not have comorbidities one of the best ways to stamp out the virus is to get exposed to a weakened form of the virus in a very low dose. For example, the virus only survives for 15 minutes in sunshine. When you are outside in the air and the wind and the sun you will be exposed to very low doses of the weakened virus. This is not simply a theory. We have had many, many "super spreader events" whether they were Trump rallies, BLM protests, Covid protests, Biker rallies, Football games, etc. Why have none of them been "super spreader events" and why is it that the states who are holding these like Florida doing the best?

 

[ZNP]

Yeah, being the 5TH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD is such a failure! Burn!

Republicans once preached that states are 'little laboratories of democracy'. So after decades of experimentation, when are you right handers going to ever look at and consider the lab results?

And no, I'm not a libertard.

California is the poorest state in the Union based on the number of residents living below the poverty line. Mississippi may make less than California on average, but it is a lot cheaper to live in Mississippi. Thirty years ago they were the richest state in the union. There is tremendous evidence that the fires we see in California are due to mismanagement. They have allowed the agricultural industry to plant crops that are unsustainable and water intensive, drying up the state. California used to be the bread basket of the world, used to be the wealthiest state in the union. They have gone from first to worst.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/12/14/the-death-of-california/

And now they want to make Abortion their signature industry.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The science and data won't be settled for another 5-10 years to come.

That is just a completely false statement. The real science has been ignored by all the evildoers since day one. And we know RIGHT NOW that none of these items controls or mitigates coronavirus based upon actual scientific peer-reviewed studies:

1. Masks -- utterly USELESS
2. Distancing -- utterly USELESS
3. Disinfecting hard surfaces -- utterly USELESS
4. Lockdowns -- utterly USELESS
5. Bogus vaccines -- utterly USELESS, LETHAL, TOXIC, AND DANGEROUS

What actually works, but what was consistently sabotaged by the same evildoers, were (1) chloroquine, (2) hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), (3) the HCQ combo pack with zinc and azithromycin, and (4) ivermectin. Hospitals had to be literally sued in order for ethical doctors to use these treatments. And ethical doctors were fired for trying to save lives.

As for the state of California, there is no hope for this state no matter which criterion one uses.

 

[JTB]

That is just a completely false statement. The real science has been ignored by all the evildoers since day one. And we know RIGHT NOW that none of these items controls or mitigates coronavirus based upon actual scientific peer-reviewed studies:

1. Masks -- utterly USELESS
2. Distancing -- utterly USELESS
3. Disinfecting hard surfaces -- utterly USELESS
4. Lockdowns -- utterly USELESS
5. Bogus vaccines -- utterly USELESS, LETHAL, TOXIC, AND DANGEROUS

What actually works, but what was consistently sabotaged by the same evildoers, were (1) chloroquine, (2) hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), (3) the HCQ combo pack with zinc and azithromycin, and (4) ivermectin. Hospitals had to be literally sued in order for ethical doctors to use these treatments. And ethical doctors were fired for trying to save lives.

As for the state of California, there is no hope for this state no matter which criterion one uses.

Says the pre-conceived willfully ignorant.

 

[JTB]

We have been studying viral infections for 100 years. Why isn't all of that research valid?


We have had many, many "super spreader events" whether they were Trump rallies, BLM protests, Covid protests, Biker rallies, Football games, etc. Why have none of them been "super spreader events" and why is it that the states who are holding these like Florida doing the best?

That research is not valid assuming this virus was manufactured in a lab using gain-of-function protocols. That's a whole new beast. But again, we don't know that for sure and it will be some time if ever that we do. So the asterisk and question marks remain.

Why are super-spreader events not super spreader events? Because to acknowledge the truth that they are goes against your pre-conceived belief.

(And now comes the reply using a political hack source that's no more reliable than CNN).

 

[JTB]

California is the poorest state in the Union based on the number of residents living below the poverty line. Mississippi may make less than California on average, but it is a lot cheaper to live in Mississippi. Thirty years ago they were the richest state in the union. There is tremendous evidence that the fires we see in California are due to mismanagement. They have allowed the agricultural industry to plant crops that are unsustainable and water intensive, drying up the state. California used to be the bread basket of the world, used to be the wealthiest state in the union. They have gone from first to worst.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/12/14/the-death-of-california/

And now they want to make Abortion their signature industry.

See, right there. Most of the fires in Cali occur on FEDERAL LAND. But to acknowledge that negates your stand so you won't.

Big picture buddy.

Blain said it best - one knows the truth when one tries to prove that their point is wrong.

 

[ZNP]

That is just a completely false statement. The real science has been ignored by all the evildoers since day one. And we know RIGHT NOW that none of these items controls or mitigates coronavirus based upon actual scientific peer-reviewed studies:

1. Masks -- utterly USELESS
2. Distancing -- utterly USELESS
3. Disinfecting hard surfaces -- utterly USELESS
4. Lockdowns -- utterly USELESS
5. Bogus vaccines -- utterly USELESS, LETHAL, TOXIC, AND DANGEROUS

What actually works, but what was consistently sabotaged by the same evildoers, were (1) chloroquine, (2) hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), (3) the HCQ combo pack with zinc and azithromycin, and (4) ivermectin. Hospitals had to be literally sued in order for ethical doctors to use these treatments. And ethical doctors were fired for trying to save lives.

As for the state of California, there is no hope for this state no matter which criterion one uses.

I would clarify a few of these. Masks are useless at preventing you from being infected (if they are typical masks) however they are effective at keeping you from accidentally coughing or spitting on a person. It can reduce how big a viral load you could infect someone else with. Distancing is also useless at preventing you from being exposed to the virus, but it can reduce the viral load. It is very likely and there are studies that support this that the viral load will have a big impact on how sick you get. So then distancing could reduce the numbers in the ICU and the morgue.

Lockdowns should be a last resort and targeted to areas with severe outbreaks. Locking down the State of NY because a couple of people have a cold is harmful, worse than useless.

I would also say that studies show that if you take HCQ the minute you feel run down like you are coming down with something it is extremely effective, after that, once you are already quite sick Ivermectin is the better option. Vitamin D and Zinc are great to take prior to getting sick and if you are in the ICU oxygen is probably the best treatment.

 

[ZNP]

See, right there. Most of the fires in Cali occur on FEDERAL LAND. But to acknowledge that negates your stand so you won't.

Big picture buddy.

Blain said it best - one knows the truth when one tries to prove that their point is wrong.

California uses more water than they have each year depleting reservoirs and drying out the state. That is 100% under their control. 80% of their water is for agriculture and they grow water intensive crops like almonds. Water management and crop management are two things the State of California can control and they have done a terrible job with both.

 

[ZNP]

That research is not valid assuming this virus was manufactured in a lab using gain-of-function protocols. That's a whole new beast. But again, we don't know that for sure and it will be some time if ever that we do. So the asterisk and question marks remain.

Why are super-spreader events not super spreader events? Because to acknowledge the truth that they are goes against your pre-conceived belief.

(And now comes the reply using a political hack source that's no more reliable than CNN).

HCQ is an oxidizer. Simple viruses do not have a complex system designed to protect against oxidizers. This is why they have no protection against HCQ, doesn't matter what virus it is.

We know that the immune system is the single best defense anyone has. Vitamin D and Zinc will be very helpful because if you are deficient in either of these your immune system is weakened. This is true for Covid19 as much as for any virus.

The viral load is critical. In other words when you are first infected is it with a single virus floating in the air or did someone sneeze into your face hitting you with 2 million virus? It doesn't matter Covid, Flu, or the common cold. This is why outdoor events are not super spreader events and all the super spreader events are traced back to an indoor situation (bar, restaurant, etc). The wind blows the virus away, outdoors you have exponentially more air for the virus to be spread out in, and the virus only lasts for about 15 minutes in the sunshine so it doesn't accumulate. This is true of Covid as well as any other virus.

We also know that when we have a vaccine that is leaky, meaning it doesn't fully protect you from future mutations then we know the vaccine will be most effective if we use it sparingly. If you reserve this for 5% of the population that is most at risk you will not create an environment that favors the mutations. But if you give it to 80% you have created an environment that will favor Delta and Omicron variants.

All of these things were well known prior to this pandemic.

 

[JTB]

I would clarify a few of these. Masks are useless at preventing you from being infected (if they are typical masks) however they are effective at keeping you from accidentally coughing or spitting on a person. It can reduce how big a viral load you could infect someone else with. Distancing is also useless at preventing you from being exposed to the virus, but it can reduce the viral load. It is very likely and there are studies that support this that the viral load will have a big impact on how sick you get. So then distancing could reduce the numbers in the ICU and the morgue.

Lockdowns should be a last resort and targeted to areas with severe outbreaks. Locking down the State of NY because a couple of people have a cold is harmful, worse than useless.

I would also say that studies show that if you take HCQ the minute you feel run down like you are coming down with something it is extremely effective, after that, once you are already quite sick Ivermectin is the better option. Vitamin D and Zinc are great to take prior to getting sick and if you are in the ICU oxygen is probably the best treatment.

THANK YOU.

 

[JTB]

California uses more water than they have each year depleting reservoirs and drying out the state. That is 100% under their control. 80% of their water is for agriculture and they grow water intensive crops like almonds. Water management and crop management are two things the State of California can control and they have done a terrible job with both.

Oh I don't argue that California doesn't have it's faults, npi. I'm a born and raised Orange County native, and I couldn't wait to move the he(ck) out. The golden state is no longer golden, hasn't been for decades. But when people say it's failed I have to laugh. It's at the forefront of pushing the world's agenda, which is decidedly anti-God. The world is going to reward it by.., well, making it the 5th largest economy. That's why it's succeeding, it ain't because it's being run by geniuses, it's because it's bowing to the god of this world. Now, we may not want to admit that it's succeeding for that reason, but it's a lie and a deception to say it isn't. And if a Christian is buying into lies and deceptions there, where else may they be unwittingly buying into it as well?