Summary of Bible references on the Rapture
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Are you telling us that Christmas trees are idols? Are you making it a matter of inciting a serious charge which you then belay to a seeming unavoidable sin when we are pressed into office parties that have trees at Christmas - but......what you mean is to warn us that we ought not to be fornicators or covetous or an idolator. And then if perhaps we are ignorant of these things you speak of child sexual abusers as a statistic of priests and even more priests who are practising sexual relations and so out of their own sin they essentially cover the pedophiles and thence that all those who know about the priests are severally guilty of the same weight of guilt because they are not strict in their condemnation? Thats quiet an accusation. And all this to say that Pergamon is a dispensational church in the church age and represents the Roman Catholic Church.
You then bring condemnation upon countless others because of Christmas trees and incite them to being doubly condemned because in their faith they are unaffected by meat sacrificed to idols (Christmas mall trash) because they are not strict in their condemnation!
A Christmas tree is just a tree. If you want to properly understand the occult and what you call pagan things then read up about the
Asherim groves in the bible and in occult literature. These groves were not a celebration of life - they were an alter to the destruction of children by the ruin of men and women in acts of unspeakable fornication and the eventual passing of their children through the fire. And you liken the green trees of Christmas to these? I imagine you will tell me that you haven't mentioned these things. Yet you have because the only reality in your words that could have a semblance of truth in it would have to be such a grave. things as the green trees of the Asherim groves.
A fun story for your edification, brother.
As a Jew I jest with just about everyone that they cannot surly ask me to join in their Christmas parades - even though I do look like Santa - they always smile because they know I am Messianic and worse even than that a Calvinist to boot. Well one time when my daughter was just five years of age and knowing that she would be privately educated as my sons were - she asked if she could go to the local school. So we sent her along and then after a few weeks she came home one day with a very serious and stern look which told me I had done something wrong. So I asked her what the matter was. In her ever so sweet manner she wagged her finger at me and told me that I had lied to her. So I asked her how I had lied to her - and she said just one word - CHRISTMAS. She quiet reasonably expected me to repent and yield to the nonsense the school had filled her sweet head with along with the witchcraft and the necromancy. So I went down to the school rebuked the teacher for exposing my daughter to the occult of using mirrors to speak to the hidden world and pressing occult imagery onto her. But thanked them for telling her about Christmas. I then went home and set up a green tree - filled it with lights and started to place the presents under the tree. The very first Christmas presents any of my children ever saw. After the holiday I sent my daughter into private education because she saw the wonder of a few presents hidden under the mystical lights of a green tree. Much more importantly she saw a father who was not afraid to let her understand the attraction of a lie. After two years of celebrating Christmas with a green tree - the tree was burned and the lights smashed and my daughter went back to receiving her cash which she saved until she 18 years old when she married.
It's not the lies that cause injury, brother - it is the way we handle the truth. If we mean the children of God when we speak about believers and intend others to believe and to know that we have been called to be as a shepherd to them in love, in kindness and in truth - then condemning Christmas trees isn't going to get us many thanks. Neither should we take comfort in being hated because we have little grace to allow brethren to hold their own obedience as a child holds their father in fear and love when he rebukes witchcraft and sorcery and occult things - but spares the green tree.
So did you understand the point about the Greeks and the Jewish mystics and the celebration of Hanukkah?
You then bring condemnation upon countless others because of Christmas trees and incite them to being doubly condemned because in their faith they are unaffected by meat sacrificed to idols (Christmas mall trash) because they are not strict in their condemnation!
A Christmas tree is just a tree. If you want to properly understand the occult and what you call pagan things then read up about the
Asherim groves in the bible and in occult literature. These groves were not a celebration of life - they were an alter to the destruction of children by the ruin of men and women in acts of unspeakable fornication and the eventual passing of their children through the fire. And you liken the green trees of Christmas to these? I imagine you will tell me that you haven't mentioned these things. Yet you have because the only reality in your words that could have a semblance of truth in it would have to be such a grave. things as the green trees of the Asherim groves.
A fun story for your edification, brother.
As a Jew I jest with just about everyone that they cannot surly ask me to join in their Christmas parades - even though I do look like Santa - they always smile because they know I am Messianic and worse even than that a Calvinist to boot. Well one time when my daughter was just five years of age and knowing that she would be privately educated as my sons were - she asked if she could go to the local school. So we sent her along and then after a few weeks she came home one day with a very serious and stern look which told me I had done something wrong. So I asked her what the matter was. In her ever so sweet manner she wagged her finger at me and told me that I had lied to her. So I asked her how I had lied to her - and she said just one word - CHRISTMAS. She quiet reasonably expected me to repent and yield to the nonsense the school had filled her sweet head with along with the witchcraft and the necromancy. So I went down to the school rebuked the teacher for exposing my daughter to the occult of using mirrors to speak to the hidden world and pressing occult imagery onto her. But thanked them for telling her about Christmas. I then went home and set up a green tree - filled it with lights and started to place the presents under the tree. The very first Christmas presents any of my children ever saw. After the holiday I sent my daughter into private education because she saw the wonder of a few presents hidden under the mystical lights of a green tree. Much more importantly she saw a father who was not afraid to let her understand the attraction of a lie. After two years of celebrating Christmas with a green tree - the tree was burned and the lights smashed and my daughter went back to receiving her cash which she saved until she 18 years old when she married.
It's not the lies that cause injury, brother - it is the way we handle the truth. If we mean the children of God when we speak about believers and intend others to believe and to know that we have been called to be as a shepherd to them in love, in kindness and in truth - then condemning Christmas trees isn't going to get us many thanks. Neither should we take comfort in being hated because we have little grace to allow brethren to hold their own obedience as a child holds their father in fear and love when he rebukes witchcraft and sorcery and occult things - but spares the green tree.
So did you understand the point about the Greeks and the Jewish mystics and the celebration of Hanukkah?
Christmas trees originated as part of idol worship for both Odin in Germany and thousands of years earlier in Babylon. I do not think many people who put them up realize that so it isn't intentional, but like Paul said the "church" has robbed pagan temples for various practices for both Christmas and Easter. When you are involved in idol worship you place the offering as a gift to the idol for the idol to bless and then you can eat it. Placing the gifts under the tree is a standard practice in idol worship.
Why would anyone take offense at the post concerning idols? If you read what Paul wrote you would realize that the idols must be very common. The example of Israel in the wilderness indicates that virtually everyone was caught up in idol worship. Listen to Paul and it seems like idol worship was everywhere. Read the verses and look how serious it is, every time we take the Lord's table we should be reminded not to partake of the table of idols. I think believers want to know what that is talking about. Christmas, Easter, Rock concerts, NFL games, etc.
All of these things might not be worshipped as idols, however "sacrificing to idols" can be as simple as buying a tree and decorating it because you feel you are supposed to.
To me if you don't worship these things you don't care if they are idols, you don't care if you need to cut them off. The bigger the responses people have about how terrible it is to condemn these practices as being idolatrous, the more it matters to people the more I wonder if they really don't worship them.
All of these things might not be worshipped as idols, however "sacrificing to idols" can be as simple as buying a tree and decorating it because you feel you are supposed to.
To me if you don't worship these things you don't care if they are idols, you don't care if you need to cut them off. The bigger the responses people have about how terrible it is to condemn these practices as being idolatrous, the more it matters to people the more I wonder if they really don't worship them.
I sometimes wonder about the brethren who write things on the internet and say severe things - and yet shy away from understanding what it is that they are speaking about.
In considering the meaning of Galatians 5:20 where we read of witchcraft or sorcery as a fruit of the flesh, there are three things which can be held in our understanding minds. The first is fear; the second is anger, and the third is idolatry, which is murder and death. Yet none of these things are found in that list of the fruits of the flesh. Why is that - do you know?
When looking at Adam, we see the first fear in man. In looking at Cain, we see the first anger in man. Fear and anger follow on from one another as the son follows his father, so anger follows on from fear. Then soon anger runs ahead of fear. Fear itself is overwhelmed and gives way to anger, and when anger is full conceived, it gives way to murder. It is the rejection of a man’s own efforts to please God. It is a lack of faith and a lack of knowledge of God. It is the knowledge of having one’s own efforts rejected. It is putting your own thoughts before God’s thoughts. It is taking your own way and rejecting the Lord’s way. The man who is afraid, grumbles against God (Genesis 4:8a). He does not comprehend that his brother (Abel) is a prophet of God (Luke 11:50-51) and so he must speak according to God. The man in consideration to his own anger murders his brother. In all of this, the thing spoken of is self. It is the man and not the Lord who made him. It is the foundation of rebellion, and it is sorcery and idolatry. When God cannot be found men become afraid and when their works are rejected they become angry and when their anger is full conceived they morder their brethren.
You say that you are concerned about what others will think when believers bear a false witness and you speak of Christmas trees and German forests and Paganism and Pergamon and such things - but what do you know of the flesh? It is the flesh that forms the basis for all sin and all anger and all fear. When the law of sin and death becomes the heart of flesh - when the flesh is full conceived and gives rise to every form of sin - then God sends a deluge to consume it - before He sends His only begotten Son to remove its power. And knowing these things which many believers claim to know - they for all that cannot even comprehend their very own flesh.
What possibility is there of raising up obedient sons and daughters by speaking of Christmas trees and NFL and rock concerts or even idolatry - when you will not demonstrate why the Spirit wrestles against the flesh and the flesh against the Spirit in order that you might not do that which is in you to do - in your flesh. I know from first hand witness and ministry in the churches that what you speak of is childrens' sweets when set against the things that believers do in secret - yet by the prophetic ministry these things cannot remain hidden when God is going to show mercy and judge His people and prepare them for the marriage of the Lamb. Your nation is wholly given over the the flesh - and you would do well to prepare for judgement because it is descending upon you. So you can either speak to the House or speak to the flesh of men - either way you will be judged and held accountable.
I sometimes wonder about the brethren who write things on the internet and say severe things - and yet shy away from understanding what it is that they are speaking about.
In the near four decades I have been a believer into Christ I have given my testimony less than five times in the churches. I have refused to speak of Galatians 5:20 directly and refused the vanity of taking confidence in the power of God to save men from theft and sorceries and whoring and drunkenness and have spoken of just one thing - The Cross. What I have found is that the brethren seek to press me into speaking about the so -called deep things of Satan - and so I rebuke them and tell them that I cannot speak of those things when they will make of them baubles and children's sweets and raise the money plate and declare the great mercy of God then go home and cause their own children to stumble in their fleshy vanity and worthless pride of life.
Your nation has advanced that corrupt and fleshy pride of life more than any nation that ever existed. You ought to weep and lament because the judgement of God is coming upon you and there will be no escape - unless you embrace the Cross and put on sackcloth and cast ashes upon your heads with weeping. Like Ahab if you desire to be buried as a King - then repent of the murder of Naboth by which you have stolen the Vineyard - yet Jezebel will not be spared and neither your many sons and daughters. Do you want to know what the end of this age will be like, brother? Then look to your own flesh and you will see its entire meaning. Shalom
In considering the meaning of Galatians 5:20 where we read of witchcraft or sorcery as a fruit of the flesh, there are three things which can be held in our understanding minds. The first is fear; the second is anger, and the third is idolatry, which is murder and death. Yet none of these things are found in that list of the fruits of the flesh. Why is that - do you know?
When looking at Adam, we see the first fear in man. In looking at Cain, we see the first anger in man. Fear and anger follow on from one another as the son follows his father, so anger follows on from fear. Then soon anger runs ahead of fear. Fear itself is overwhelmed and gives way to anger, and when anger is full conceived, it gives way to murder. It is the rejection of a man’s own efforts to please God. It is a lack of faith and a lack of knowledge of God. It is the knowledge of having one’s own efforts rejected. It is putting your own thoughts before God’s thoughts. It is taking your own way and rejecting the Lord’s way. The man who is afraid, grumbles against God (Genesis 4:8a). He does not comprehend that his brother (Abel) is a prophet of God (Luke 11:50-51) and so he must speak according to God. The man in consideration to his own anger murders his brother. In all of this, the thing spoken of is self. It is the man and not the Lord who made him. It is the foundation of rebellion, and it is sorcery and idolatry. When God cannot be found men become afraid and when their works are rejected they become angry and when their anger is full conceived they morder their brethren.
You say that you are concerned about what others will think when believers bear a false witness and you speak of Christmas trees and German forests and Paganism and Pergamon and such things - but what do you know of the flesh? It is the flesh that forms the basis for all sin and all anger and all fear. When the law of sin and death becomes the heart of flesh - when the flesh is full conceived and gives rise to every form of sin - then God sends a deluge to consume it - before He sends His only begotten Son to remove its power. And knowing these things which many believers claim to know - they for all that cannot even comprehend their very own flesh.
What possibility is there of raising up obedient sons and daughters by speaking of Christmas trees and NFL and rock concerts or even idolatry - when you will not demonstrate why the Spirit wrestles against the flesh and the flesh against the Spirit in order that you might not do that which is in you to do - in your flesh. I know from first hand witness and ministry in the churches that what you speak of is childrens' sweets when set against the things that believers do in secret - yet by the prophetic ministry these things cannot remain hidden when God is going to show mercy and judge His people and prepare them for the marriage of the Lamb. Your nation is wholly given over the the flesh - and you would do well to prepare for judgement because it is descending upon you. So you can either speak to the House or speak to the flesh of men - either way you will be judged and held accountable.
I sometimes wonder about the brethren who write things on the internet and say severe things - and yet shy away from understanding what it is that they are speaking about.
In the near four decades I have been a believer into Christ I have given my testimony less than five times in the churches. I have refused to speak of Galatians 5:20 directly and refused the vanity of taking confidence in the power of God to save men from theft and sorceries and whoring and drunkenness and have spoken of just one thing - The Cross. What I have found is that the brethren seek to press me into speaking about the so -called deep things of Satan - and so I rebuke them and tell them that I cannot speak of those things when they will make of them baubles and children's sweets and raise the money plate and declare the great mercy of God then go home and cause their own children to stumble in their fleshy vanity and worthless pride of life.
Your nation has advanced that corrupt and fleshy pride of life more than any nation that ever existed. You ought to weep and lament because the judgement of God is coming upon you and there will be no escape - unless you embrace the Cross and put on sackcloth and cast ashes upon your heads with weeping. Like Ahab if you desire to be buried as a King - then repent of the murder of Naboth by which you have stolen the Vineyard - yet Jezebel will not be spared and neither your many sons and daughters. Do you want to know what the end of this age will be like, brother? Then look to your own flesh and you will see its entire meaning. Shalom
Reference to the 9th of Av in the Gospel of John
I wanted to find a reference to the 9th of Av in the gospel of John and I found this. It is quite stunning on a number of levels so let's walk through it.
John 2:13 And the passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 And he found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: 15 and he made a scourge of cords, and cast all out of the temple, both the sheep and the oxen; and he poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew their tables; 16 and to them that sold the doves he said, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house a house of merchandise. 17 His disciples remembered that it was written, Zeal for thy house shall eat me up.
Here we have "the powers of heaven being shaken". All of this is taking place in the Temple, but it is no longer "my Father's house" but rather "a house of merchandise". That would be an Idol temple. By all accounts it seems there are 3 times the "power of heaven" will be shaken. I suspect the first time will be the collapse of the world currency. This picture of "overthrowing their tables" reminds me of the references to "turned upside down" which in every case in the Bible is a reference to the Judgement of God during the Day of the Lord. What is causing people to rise up right now is "zeal for thy house". You are seeing crowds spontaneously sing the National anthem, you are seeing parents taking on school boards over CRT, legislators calling for forensic audits, etc. What we are seeing is "zeal for they house" eating up this nation.
John 2:18 The Jews therefore answered and said unto him, What sign showest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 The Jews therefore said, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou raise it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he spake this; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
The Temple was destroyed on the 9th of Av. Actually both temples were destroyed on the 9th of Av as well as a long list of other horrific events all depicting the crucifixion of God's people (the order for the Final Solution to exterminate the Jews in the Holocaust was given on the 9th of Av). They asked for a sign seeing He was doing these things and He said the sign would be the resurrection. The rapture is a resurrection.
So then we have a reference to the Day of the Lord (turned upside down) tied to a reference to the powers of heaven are shaken (money changers in the temple have the money poured out) tied to the 9th of Av (destroy this temple) tied to the rapture (raise it up in 3 days).
I wanted to find a reference to the 9th of Av in the gospel of John and I found this. It is quite stunning on a number of levels so let's walk through it.
John 2:13 And the passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 And he found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: 15 and he made a scourge of cords, and cast all out of the temple, both the sheep and the oxen; and he poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew their tables; 16 and to them that sold the doves he said, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house a house of merchandise. 17 His disciples remembered that it was written, Zeal for thy house shall eat me up.
Here we have "the powers of heaven being shaken". All of this is taking place in the Temple, but it is no longer "my Father's house" but rather "a house of merchandise". That would be an Idol temple. By all accounts it seems there are 3 times the "power of heaven" will be shaken. I suspect the first time will be the collapse of the world currency. This picture of "overthrowing their tables" reminds me of the references to "turned upside down" which in every case in the Bible is a reference to the Judgement of God during the Day of the Lord. What is causing people to rise up right now is "zeal for thy house". You are seeing crowds spontaneously sing the National anthem, you are seeing parents taking on school boards over CRT, legislators calling for forensic audits, etc. What we are seeing is "zeal for they house" eating up this nation.
John 2:18 The Jews therefore answered and said unto him, What sign showest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 The Jews therefore said, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou raise it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he spake this; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
The Temple was destroyed on the 9th of Av. Actually both temples were destroyed on the 9th of Av as well as a long list of other horrific events all depicting the crucifixion of God's people (the order for the Final Solution to exterminate the Jews in the Holocaust was given on the 9th of Av). They asked for a sign seeing He was doing these things and He said the sign would be the resurrection. The rapture is a resurrection.
So then we have a reference to the Day of the Lord (turned upside down) tied to a reference to the powers of heaven are shaken (money changers in the temple have the money poured out) tied to the 9th of Av (destroy this temple) tied to the rapture (raise it up in 3 days).
So in essence it is wrong to assert that a prophecy is false because it does not come to pass and instead to raise up a mild rebuke that if God finds just one man to stand in the gap then the prophecy will not come to pass or else be delayed. A precept taken from Ezekiel as shown in the video. David Wilkerson utilised a similar precept of the Watchman designation. You will recall, brother that Stan called himself a Watchman in 1999. I posted his own words to demonstrate that fact.
The thing is brother, this man in the video calls himself an Apostle now and his wife calls herself a Prophet.
He lays a claim to a former intelligence officer (Stanislav Lunev) in a 1998 Prophecy Club meeting and heard first hand that the Russians had planted suitcase bombs in the US. The fact of the matter is, however, Stanislav Lunev was stated to have exaggerated his claims by the FBI and Congressman Curt Weldon disclosed that to the public which was reported by a White House Press agency. In the end Lunev admitted that whilst he did survey particular sites in the US including Washington, he did NOT hide any arms caches nor any suitcase bombs. He also testified to a committee in 1997 before Congressman Weldon that the suitcase devices were nuclear.
Then in 2005 the Apostle in the video tells us he asked the Lord and the Lord gave him dreams that made the claim both credible and certain. He even says that his dream designated the suitcase bombs as nuclear - something that Lunev never told him.
All I can see brother, is a basis for drawing gullible believers into a place of believing that they are the restraining hand of God on America being nuclear bombed to whatever extent that would mean - and who wouldn't want to be part of upholding a nation for God? So can I ask - What do you see as the benefit from giving us this video? Also can you explain the difference between the Watchman Ezekiel and the Prophet Jeremiah. They were both present when Judah was taken into captivity and the Temple Destroyed. If you read Jeremiah it won't take you long to discover a profound contradiction in this claim taken from Ezekiel as set down in the video.
The thing is brother, this man in the video calls himself an Apostle now and his wife calls herself a Prophet.
He lays a claim to a former intelligence officer (Stanislav Lunev) in a 1998 Prophecy Club meeting and heard first hand that the Russians had planted suitcase bombs in the US. The fact of the matter is, however, Stanislav Lunev was stated to have exaggerated his claims by the FBI and Congressman Curt Weldon disclosed that to the public which was reported by a White House Press agency. In the end Lunev admitted that whilst he did survey particular sites in the US including Washington, he did NOT hide any arms caches nor any suitcase bombs. He also testified to a committee in 1997 before Congressman Weldon that the suitcase devices were nuclear.
Then in 2005 the Apostle in the video tells us he asked the Lord and the Lord gave him dreams that made the claim both credible and certain. He even says that his dream designated the suitcase bombs as nuclear - something that Lunev never told him.
All I can see brother, is a basis for drawing gullible believers into a place of believing that they are the restraining hand of God on America being nuclear bombed to whatever extent that would mean - and who wouldn't want to be part of upholding a nation for God? So can I ask - What do you see as the benefit from giving us this video? Also can you explain the difference between the Watchman Ezekiel and the Prophet Jeremiah. They were both present when Judah was taken into captivity and the Temple Destroyed. If you read Jeremiah it won't take you long to discover a profound contradiction in this claim taken from Ezekiel as set down in the video.
A closer look at the 9th of Av, the Lord's word in John, and the rapture
Psalm 78:41 And they turned again and tempted God,
And provoked the Holy One of Israel.
42 They remembered not his hand,
Nor the day when he redeemed them from the adversary;
This is a reference to the 9th of Av. Their sin was that they did not remember all the mighty acts of God. Think about all those Christians who today are turning again and tempting God and provoking the Holy One of Israel in dismissing talk of the rapture. What is their sin, they are not remembering his hand, nor are they remembering the day that we were redeemed, the day of resurrection from the grave.
43 How he set his signs in Egypt,
And his wonders in the field of Zoan,
44 And turned their rivers into blood,
And their streams, so that they could not drink.
45 He sent among them swarms of flies, which devoured them;
And frogs, which destroyed them.
46 He gave also their increase unto the caterpillar,
And their labor unto the locust.
47 He destroyed their vines with hail,
And their sycomore-trees with frost.
48 He gave over their cattle also to the hail,
And their flocks to hot thunderbolts.
49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger,
Wrath, and indignation, and trouble,
A band of angels of evil.
Open your eyes and you can see these signs all over the globe, the plagues, the pestilence, the hail, the band of angels of evil. The caterpillar and locust eating up your labor.
50 He made a path for his anger;
He spared not their soul from death,
But gave their life over to the pestilence,
51 And smote all the first-born in Egypt,
The chief of their strength in the tents of Ham.
There is evidence that this vaccine is not designed to protect you from Covid but rather to give you a genetic disease which will sterilize you. Not only so but they are not sparing anyone, everyone is being mandated to take it. I saw a wonderful video at a gathering of Doctors where they went through slides taken of organ tissues of those who have received this vaccine showing the damage that is done by the vaccine to the Body, the doctor's conclusion was that the vaccine is the disease.
52 But he led forth his own people like sheep,
And guided them in the wilderness like a flock.
53 And he led them safely, so that they feared not;
But the sea overwhelmed their enemies.
54 And he brought them to the border of his sanctuary,
To this mountain, which his right hand had gotten.
He brought them to Sinai but we are told in Hebrews that we don't come to Sinai rather we come to Mount Zion. This is a reference to the wedding and the rapture.
55 He drove out the nations also before them,
And allotted them for an inheritance by line,
And made the tribes of Israel to dwell in their tents.
We are looking at a victory here.
56 Yet they tempted and rebelled against the Most High God,
And kept not his testimonies;
57 But turned back, and dealt treacherously like their fathers:
They were turned aside like a deceitful bow.
This is the falling away. We see this today, you shoot an arrow and for some reason the bow causes the arrow to turn aside. We have politicians who we are calling on to do a forensic audit and for some reason they keep turning aside like a deceitful bow.
58 For they provoked him to anger with their high places,
And moved him to jealousy with their graven images.
We saw this when the Zeal of thy house ate up the Lord and He turned the tables on the money changers. This is a reference to His "shaking the powers of heaven". In John we see that the temple has been infested with idol worship and they turned His father's house into a house of merchandise.
59 When God heard this, he was wroth,
And greatly abhorred Israel;
60 So that he forsook the tabernacle of Shiloh,
The tent which he placed among men;
61 And delivered his strength into captivity,
And his glory into the adversary’s hand.
62 He gave his people over also unto the sword,
And was wroth with his inheritance.
63 Fire devoured their young men;
And their virgins had no marriage-song.
64 Their priests fell by the sword;
And their widows made no lamentation.
This sounds very much like the tribulation. It sounds a whole lot like one of Dana Coverstone's dreams and many of the prophecies on the Prophecy club.
65 Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep,
Like a mighty man that shouteth by reason of wine.
66 And he smote his adversaries backward:
He put them to a perpetual reproach.
This looks like the second rapture.
67 Moreover he refused the tent of Joseph,
And chose not the tribe of Ephraim,
68 But chose the tribe of Judah,
The mount Zion which he loved.
According to Hebrews we have come to Mount Zion.
69 And he built his sanctuary like the heights,
Like the earth which he hath established for ever.
This sounds like what the Lord said "I will raise it up on the third day" referring to the Temple.
70 He chose David also his servant,
And took him from the sheepfolds:
71 From following the ewes that have their young he brought him,
To be the shepherd of Jacob his people, and Israel his inheritance.
72 So he was their shepherd according to the integrity of his heart,
And guided them by the skilfulness of his hands.
Psalm 78:41 And they turned again and tempted God,
And provoked the Holy One of Israel.
42 They remembered not his hand,
Nor the day when he redeemed them from the adversary;
This is a reference to the 9th of Av. Their sin was that they did not remember all the mighty acts of God. Think about all those Christians who today are turning again and tempting God and provoking the Holy One of Israel in dismissing talk of the rapture. What is their sin, they are not remembering his hand, nor are they remembering the day that we were redeemed, the day of resurrection from the grave.
43 How he set his signs in Egypt,
And his wonders in the field of Zoan,
44 And turned their rivers into blood,
And their streams, so that they could not drink.
45 He sent among them swarms of flies, which devoured them;
And frogs, which destroyed them.
46 He gave also their increase unto the caterpillar,
And their labor unto the locust.
47 He destroyed their vines with hail,
And their sycomore-trees with frost.
48 He gave over their cattle also to the hail,
And their flocks to hot thunderbolts.
49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger,
Wrath, and indignation, and trouble,
A band of angels of evil.
Open your eyes and you can see these signs all over the globe, the plagues, the pestilence, the hail, the band of angels of evil. The caterpillar and locust eating up your labor.
50 He made a path for his anger;
He spared not their soul from death,
But gave their life over to the pestilence,
51 And smote all the first-born in Egypt,
The chief of their strength in the tents of Ham.
There is evidence that this vaccine is not designed to protect you from Covid but rather to give you a genetic disease which will sterilize you. Not only so but they are not sparing anyone, everyone is being mandated to take it. I saw a wonderful video at a gathering of Doctors where they went through slides taken of organ tissues of those who have received this vaccine showing the damage that is done by the vaccine to the Body, the doctor's conclusion was that the vaccine is the disease.
52 But he led forth his own people like sheep,
And guided them in the wilderness like a flock.
53 And he led them safely, so that they feared not;
But the sea overwhelmed their enemies.
54 And he brought them to the border of his sanctuary,
To this mountain, which his right hand had gotten.
He brought them to Sinai but we are told in Hebrews that we don't come to Sinai rather we come to Mount Zion. This is a reference to the wedding and the rapture.
55 He drove out the nations also before them,
And allotted them for an inheritance by line,
And made the tribes of Israel to dwell in their tents.
We are looking at a victory here.
56 Yet they tempted and rebelled against the Most High God,
And kept not his testimonies;
57 But turned back, and dealt treacherously like their fathers:
They were turned aside like a deceitful bow.
This is the falling away. We see this today, you shoot an arrow and for some reason the bow causes the arrow to turn aside. We have politicians who we are calling on to do a forensic audit and for some reason they keep turning aside like a deceitful bow.
58 For they provoked him to anger with their high places,
And moved him to jealousy with their graven images.
We saw this when the Zeal of thy house ate up the Lord and He turned the tables on the money changers. This is a reference to His "shaking the powers of heaven". In John we see that the temple has been infested with idol worship and they turned His father's house into a house of merchandise.
59 When God heard this, he was wroth,
And greatly abhorred Israel;
60 So that he forsook the tabernacle of Shiloh,
The tent which he placed among men;
61 And delivered his strength into captivity,
And his glory into the adversary’s hand.
62 He gave his people over also unto the sword,
And was wroth with his inheritance.
63 Fire devoured their young men;
And their virgins had no marriage-song.
64 Their priests fell by the sword;
And their widows made no lamentation.
This sounds very much like the tribulation. It sounds a whole lot like one of Dana Coverstone's dreams and many of the prophecies on the Prophecy club.
65 Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep,
Like a mighty man that shouteth by reason of wine.
66 And he smote his adversaries backward:
He put them to a perpetual reproach.
This looks like the second rapture.
67 Moreover he refused the tent of Joseph,
And chose not the tribe of Ephraim,
68 But chose the tribe of Judah,
The mount Zion which he loved.
According to Hebrews we have come to Mount Zion.
69 And he built his sanctuary like the heights,
Like the earth which he hath established for ever.
This sounds like what the Lord said "I will raise it up on the third day" referring to the Temple.
70 He chose David also his servant,
And took him from the sheepfolds:
71 From following the ewes that have their young he brought him,
To be the shepherd of Jacob his people, and Israel his inheritance.
72 So he was their shepherd according to the integrity of his heart,
And guided them by the skilfulness of his hands.
The only time I allow what others say to have a strong influence on convincing me the person is a false prophet is when everyone speaks well of them.
I expect that if you are truly speaking the word of God you will be attacked, ridiculed, and the accuser of the brethren will be attacking. If Satan isn't attacking the ministry what does that say about it?
The Bible says to prove all spirits. Doesn't say listen to the screaming crazies who are all upset with what is being spoken. No, you prove it. Nicodemus said "does our Law teach us to judge a man without listening to him first?"
As for your question about Jeremiah and Ezekiel you are asking the wrong person. Each one of us should stay in our lane, that is not my lane.
I expect that if you are truly speaking the word of God you will be attacked, ridiculed, and the accuser of the brethren will be attacking. If Satan isn't attacking the ministry what does that say about it?
The Bible says to prove all spirits. Doesn't say listen to the screaming crazies who are all upset with what is being spoken. No, you prove it. Nicodemus said "does our Law teach us to judge a man without listening to him first?"
As for your question about Jeremiah and Ezekiel you are asking the wrong person. Each one of us should stay in our lane, that is not my lane.
That is somewhat implausible. No doubt the prophets are held in contempt and often put to death - but to make your claim is indefensible because these prophets, apostles and watchmen have followings running into millions of souls. How do you account contrary facts as reported in the Whitehouse Press Office in 1997 and made publicly available at the time and then believe the contradiction of anyone who says to the contrary of what a man has said to US government in public session? Either Lunev lied to the Watchman in 1998 or else lied to Congress in 1997. So if in 2005 the Lord then gives the Watchman a dream that not only confirms the claim to the suitcase bombs but expressly speaks about the white ash of a nuclear fall out and suitcases lying all around - then we have made the Lord a liar also if we have been deceived. So it isn't difficult to see why the Apostle makes his claim to interpreting Ezekiel 22 as he does do. Did you read what God said to Jeremiah about what attitude He would have if Jeremiah asked for mercy for Judah? I don't suppose you did do and I don't expect that you would either. Its all confusion and mysticism.
Greeks - Jewish Mysticism - The Introduction of Hanukkah. You were the one who raised the claim to Hanukkah - so explain it brother. And begin with when it was first introduced. Then Read Ezra and see what Israel really did when the foundation of the New Temple was uncovered and they began to rebuild the House.
Greeks - Jewish Mysticism - The Introduction of Hanukkah. You were the one who raised the claim to Hanukkah - so explain it brother. And begin with when it was first introduced. Then Read Ezra and see what Israel really did when the foundation of the New Temple was uncovered and they began to rebuild the House.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/122hDmPMqo8EOr8n6Lo6KE0IcPHox6RlZ/view
More Indefensible Prophecies -- By the mouth of two or three deplorables let all things be established.
More Indefensible Prophecies -- By the mouth of two or three deplorables let all things be established.
Still more indefensible Prophecies backed up by the word of God
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YBtvnDXElfqqAkP2GcZ_UzjRQ2ZwJdXz/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YBtvnDXElfqqAkP2GcZ_UzjRQ2ZwJdXz/view
More on "destroy this Temple and in three days I will raise it up"
John 2:18 The Jews therefore answered and said unto him, What sign showest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 The Jews therefore said, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou raise it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he spake this; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
2Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
I think it is interesting that prior to the rapture there must be a falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Prior to the Lord's crucifixion there was a falling away and Judas was revealed. During the 9th of Av throughout history there has been a falling away and the man of sin has been revealed whether we are talking about the ten spies with an evil report or Hitler, or whoever. As bad as the 9th of AV was it revealed who was approved, Caleb and Joshua were revealed, Schindler was revealed, Esther and Mordecai were revealed, the Maccabees were revealed, etc.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
We shall be "caught up" as a reference to the rapture and in John the Lord says "I will raise it up".
Revelation 3:10 - Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
The 9th of Av is called a day of weeping. Hanukkah is about "the hour of temptation that shall come upon all the earth", Esther was about that, the Holocaust was about that.
26 And Jehovah spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, 27 How long shall I bear with this evil congregation, that murmur against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me. 28 Say unto them, As I live, saith Jehovah, surely as ye have spoken in mine ears, so will I do to you: 29 your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, that have murmured against me, 30 surely ye shall not come into the land, concerning which I sware that I would make you dwell therein, save Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun.
There seems to be a close comparison between Revelation 3:10 and Numbers 1:26-30. Those that were faithful and kept the Lord's word are kept out of the hour of trial and in Numbers Joshua and Caleb were faithful and kept the Lord's word and so they are kept out of the wilderness, everyone else will perish there, but those two get to enter in.
1 Thessalonians 5:9 - For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
This also is something we can see in the story of the 9th of Av. This is the point that Joshua and Caleb are trying to make, we aren't appointed to wrath, the Lord will make a way for us to obtain salvation, just be faithful, trust Him.
John 2:18 The Jews therefore answered and said unto him, What sign showest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 The Jews therefore said, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou raise it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he spake this; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
2Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
I think it is interesting that prior to the rapture there must be a falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Prior to the Lord's crucifixion there was a falling away and Judas was revealed. During the 9th of Av throughout history there has been a falling away and the man of sin has been revealed whether we are talking about the ten spies with an evil report or Hitler, or whoever. As bad as the 9th of AV was it revealed who was approved, Caleb and Joshua were revealed, Schindler was revealed, Esther and Mordecai were revealed, the Maccabees were revealed, etc.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
We shall be "caught up" as a reference to the rapture and in John the Lord says "I will raise it up".
Revelation 3:10 - Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
The 9th of Av is called a day of weeping. Hanukkah is about "the hour of temptation that shall come upon all the earth", Esther was about that, the Holocaust was about that.
26 And Jehovah spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, 27 How long shall I bear with this evil congregation, that murmur against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me. 28 Say unto them, As I live, saith Jehovah, surely as ye have spoken in mine ears, so will I do to you: 29 your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, that have murmured against me, 30 surely ye shall not come into the land, concerning which I sware that I would make you dwell therein, save Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun.
There seems to be a close comparison between Revelation 3:10 and Numbers 1:26-30. Those that were faithful and kept the Lord's word are kept out of the hour of trial and in Numbers Joshua and Caleb were faithful and kept the Lord's word and so they are kept out of the wilderness, everyone else will perish there, but those two get to enter in.
1 Thessalonians 5:9 - For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
This also is something we can see in the story of the 9th of Av. This is the point that Joshua and Caleb are trying to make, we aren't appointed to wrath, the Lord will make a way for us to obtain salvation, just be faithful, trust Him.
Just in case you had any doubt who was worshipping Molech
Please note that the mark on the chest of this idol is the same mark that Ken Peters saw on the hand during his vision of the tribulation.
BTW if you watch the video the paper describing this statue tells you that the Bible is a lie when it says people worshipped this god and sacrificed babies to it.
Please note that the mark on the chest of this idol is the same mark that Ken Peters saw on the hand during his vision of the tribulation.
BTW if you watch the video the paper describing this statue tells you that the Bible is a lie when it says people worshipped this god and sacrificed babies to it.