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JTB

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What center are you at? Center for scientism?
The center that realizes we're being lied to by both sides.

If you only see one side lying to you, then you're not center.
 

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"Omicron variant is resistant to vaccines, antibody treatments and boosters, study says"

Oh! So since Omicron is taking over and the jabs have zero effect, both vaxxed and unvaxxed don't need any shots, right?

"However, the study still recommends vaccination and booster shots to stay safe from the coronavirus variant."

Um. What?

The jab does diddly squat against Omicron but we should risk the side effects and take it anyway? I just...have no words to describe how stupid this is.

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus...t-covid-vaccines-antibody-treatments-boosters
And there is the problem. People are SOOOOOOOOO polarized these days it's all or nothing for them. If something isn't 100% foolproof, it is perceived as having no effect.

On the right the vax doesn't prevent 100% of infections so to them it has no effect.

On the left it doesn't have 100% side effects so to them there are no side effects.

But in the center, one sees that it helps some. And that some do suffer bad side effects.

Again, I hate to think if Jesus went by this code. "Well My going to the cross won't save 100% of humanity so it'll be of no effect".

Genesis 18 baby. If it saves one, I'll do it. THAT"S the standard that's been set for us. And satan pulls people off it to the left and satan pulls people off it to the right.

Here's what it all boils down to... if you see only one side as being off the mark, then you're off the mark.
 

Nehemiah6

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perhaps some are weak minded...as in 'take me to your leader'
You've touched on all the reasons why so many are going along with all the COVID nonsense: 1. Weak-minded. 2. Fear-motivated. 3. Lovers of lies

None of this should apply to Christians, Every Christian should have insisted on the truth all along, and every church should have rejected all the "pandemic" nonsense, since it meant absolutely nothing in terms of reducing infections. The whole idea was to tyrannize the populations and shut down churches. The mosques were left untouched as were the Muslims.

People should be reminded over and over again that:
EVERYTHING SAID BY THE POWERS THAT BE ABOUT CORONAVIRUS ARE LIES.
1. All the numbers of "cases" were bogus.
2. All the numbers of "deaths" were bogus.
3. All the hype about ALL the "vaccines" was bogus.
4. All the BS about scariants was bogus.
5. The total numbers of vaccinated have been over-reported.
6. The total numbers of unvaccinated have been under-reported.
7. Wuhan virus deaths were over-reported.
8. Vaccine deaths were under-reported.
9. Vaccine life-threatening adverse effects were under-reported and ignored.
9. All the lies against HCQ and the HCQ combo pack were malicious.
10. All the lies against ivermectin were malicious.

So what we have had is MAJOR CRIMINAL FRAUD and MASS MURDERS for almost two years. And absolutely no one will be jailed or executed. The militaries are there to protect nations against domestic terrorists and domestic enemies. Yet not a single military division has taken action.
 

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The center that realizes we're being lied to by both sides.

If you only see one side lying to you, then you're not center.
That is true in a 2 dimensional universe, in 3 dimensions there are 6 directions that are off center and in a 4 dimensions there are 18.
 

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You've touched on all the reasons why so many are going along with all the COVID nonsense: 1. Weak-minded. 2. Fear-motivated. 3. Lovers of lies
There is this bizarre theory about our government that they are faithful even though no one trusts them, that we need to be loyal this cabal that has sold us out to the highest bidder, that the people who are looking at the data are ignorant and we need to just shut up and listen to the one expert.

When you think about human history, whether we are talking recently with 911 the Mortgage meltdown, WMD's and all the other lies it is stunning anyone could be so naive. When you widen your view to include the European union, the elites around the world, WWII, Rothschilds, Vatican, Pedophile priests, CTE scandal, Cigarette companies, etc, etc. it is truly astounding anyone could be so naive as to just follow these people unquestioning.
 

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And there is the problem. People are SOOOOOOOOO polarized these days it's all or nothing for them. If something isn't 100% foolproof, it is perceived as having no effect.

On the right the vax doesn't prevent 100% of infections so to them it has no effect.

On the left it doesn't have 100% side effects so to them there are no side effects.

But in the center, one sees that it helps some. And that some do suffer bad side effects.

Again, I hate to think if Jesus went by this code. "Well My going to the cross won't save 100% of humanity so it'll be of no effect".

Genesis 18 baby. If it saves one, I'll do it. THAT"S the standard that's been set for us. And satan pulls people off it to the left and satan pulls people off it to the right.

Here's what it all boils down to... if you see only one side as being off the mark, then you're off the mark.

you have a situation where the president of the u,s, is going to do a speech and basically blame the new variant on the unvaxxed.

the media does not do honest coverage about the vax and how effective it is and ignores the side effects

that is one of the biggest reason for all the polarization...
 

Nehemiah6

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the media does not do honest coverage about the vax and how effective it is and ignores the side effects
The media are almost as culpable as the liars in government and public health agencies. Were there to really be a Nuremberg 2.0, they would be strung up as accessories after the fact.

So what we are really seeing in the "free" West is that all governments have ganged up on the people who voted for them. In collusion with the governments are (a) the media, (b) Big Tech, (c) Big Pharma, (d) the Deep State (or its equivalent), (e) Hollywood and Woke celebrities (or their equivalents), (f) the globalist billionaires and (g) the medical establishments. How did this come about, since it is both spiritual, medical, and psychological warfare against general populations?

Satan--->Satanist cabal--->Globalist elites--->governments---->major corporations.
 

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OH NO!!! lord trump got a booster! That means he CAN"T run in 2024 because he'll be dead!
He may very well be. Or maybe he'll be so sick, we'll never hear from him again. Or maybe he'll drop dead of old age. Ditto for Biden. One can only hope, er, eek! Did I just say that out loud?

Not everyone, by the way, who are against the vaccine are pro-Trump. To me, he's "meh". And unless he has some lordly title from Scotland or something, I don't ever wanna hear him called that. :cautious:
 

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"Omicron variant is resistant to vaccines, antibody treatments and boosters, study says"

Oh! So since Omicron is taking over and the jabs have zero effect, both vaxxed and unvaxxed don't need any shots, right?

"However, the study still recommends vaccination and booster shots to stay safe from the coronavirus variant."

Um. What?

The jab does diddly squat against Omicron but we should risk the side effects and take it anyway? I just...have no words to describe how stupid this is.

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus...t-covid-vaccines-antibody-treatments-boosters
And there is the problem. People are SOOOOOOOOO polarized these days it's all or nothing for them. If something isn't 100% foolproof, it is perceived as having no effect.
But...but...but...the study flat-out says the jabs have NO impact on Omicron. This isn't a matter of polarization. This is a matter of fact. The vaccine will do NADA against Omicron and Omicron is quickly taking over and replacing the other variants. So until they come up with a new booster for Omicron, getting vaccinated against this strain is a foolish gamble on a person's health.

If the vaccine was only 50% or 80% or even 5% effective against Omicron, I'd agree with what you are saying about perception, etc. but it is 0% so, yes, it has NO EFFECT and "perceiving" it as such doesn't make me polarized, it makes me aware of the FACTS.
 

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So until they come up with a new booster for Omicron, getting vaccinated against this strain is a foolish gamble on a person's health.
This is simply delusional. The boosters are as bogus as the so-called vaccines. Several people who took the jab and also the boosters have recently tested positive for COVID. These injections DESTROY immune systems. They provide absolutely no immunity, and all that "data" about "percentage effective" is bogus.

A cruise ship was 100% vaccinated, but at least twenty tested positive for coronavirus when they arrived at port. No one will tell you what happened to the others, since they all presumably dispersed after arrival. The hospitalization and death rates for those fully vaxxed have not been honestly and transparently disclosed. And let's not forget all those healthy athletes dropping dead after taking their "vaccinations".

Alex Jones has challenged Trump to come clean about the huge disaster he has created with Operation Warp Speed. But it is doubtful that he will tell the world he was either pressured or fooled into appointing Fraudulent Fascist Fauci.
 

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90% Of All UK “Covid” Deaths Since August Were Fully Vaxxed
https://principia-scientific.com/90-of-all-uk-covid-deaths-since-august-were-fully-vaxxed/

111 US Airline Pilots Dead So Far This Year After Being Vaxxed
https://principia-scientific.com/111-us-airline-pilots-dead-so-far-this-year-after-being-vaxxed/

Japan’s Health Ministry Officially Warns Of Post-Vax Myocarditis Threat
https://principia-scientific.com/ja...icially-warns-of-post-vax-myocarditis-threat/

Using Pseudoscience To Commit Crimes Under The Nuremberg Code
https://principia-scientific.com/using-pseudoscience-to-commit-crimes-under-the-nuremberg-code/
 

JTB

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you have a situation where the president of the u,s, is going to do a speech and basically blame the new variant on the unvaxxed.

the media does not do honest coverage about the vax and how effective it is and ignores the side effects

that is one of the biggest reason for all the polarization...
Yes, absolutely - the belief that one set of lies is so blatant and over-the-top, that you have to embrace the other set of lies because, well, you have to buy into one side or the other.
 

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He may very well be. Or maybe he'll be so sick, we'll never hear from him again. Or maybe he'll drop dead of old age. Ditto for Biden. One can only hope, er, eek! Did I just say that out loud?

Not everyone, by the way, who are against the vaccine are pro-Trump. To me, he's "meh". And unless he has some lordly title from Scotland or something, I don't ever wanna hear him called that. :cautious:
His lord title (lower case) has been bestowed upon him by the likes of the my pillow guy and all the republicans who's lips are firmly glued to his keister.
 

JTB

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But...but...but...the study flat-out says the jabs have NO impact on Omicron. This isn't a matter of polarization. This is a matter of fact. The vaccine will do NADA against Omicron and Omicron is quickly taking over and replacing the other variants. So until they come up with a new booster for Omicron, getting vaccinated against this strain is a foolish gamble on a person's health.

If the vaccine was only 50% or 80% or even 5% effective against Omicron, I'd agree with what you are saying about perception, etc. but it is 0% so, yes, it has NO EFFECT and "perceiving" it as such doesn't make me polarized, it makes me aware of the FACTS.
That's not true. There are studies that show the boosters do help.


https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2021/12/14/the-latest-on-the-omicron-variant-and-vaccine-protection/

But as with all things, one must consider multiple sources, including ones you don't agree with, and the truth usually lays somewhere in the middle of it all.

Personally, I won't take another jab without getting an actual antibody count test (or 2) first to prove I need it. I don't know why that option is not even discussed. (Oh yes I do)
 

JTB

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Been fun, time to move on.
 

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That's not true. There are studies that show the boosters do help.


https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2021/12/14/the-latest-on-the-omicron-variant-and-vaccine-protection/

But as with all things, one must consider multiple sources, including ones you don't agree with, and the truth usually lays somewhere in the middle of it all.

Personally, I won't take another jab without getting an actual antibody count test (or 2) first to prove I need it. I don't know why that option is not even discussed. (Oh yes I do)

here is an example of what you said about polarazation-

you cited the n i h , the same n i h that funded the lab in wuhan where the virus most likely came from.

the same n i h that changed the definition of game-of-function research after fauchi was called to testify in congress.

they have 0 credibility.

so, citing a study by them is not a good thing to do.
 

JTB

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here is an example of what you said about polarazation-

you cited the n i h , the same n i h that funded the lab in wuhan where the virus most likely came from.

the same n i h that changed the definition of game-of-function research after fauchi was called to testify in congress.

they have 0 credibility.

so, citing a study by them is not a good thing to do.
Valid point. But it was an example that there ARE studies (and not all done by the nih) that show the vax does have some effectiveness. And that was what I was responding to, the claim that there are NONE.
 
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