Saved by Water
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you don't have faith though
you have faith in your own 'efforts'
I have faith that the Lord Jesus Christ has done ALL that is needed for my salvation and my response secures the contract
I AM baptized as we are instructed to be, to show that my life is buried with Christ and I am now a new creation in Him
if you are depending on a dunk in water to save you, you are not a new creation in Christ
you have faith in your own 'efforts'
I have faith that the Lord Jesus Christ has done ALL that is needed for my salvation and my response secures the contract
I AM baptized as we are instructed to be, to show that my life is buried with Christ and I am now a new creation in Him
if you are depending on a dunk in water to save you, you are not a new creation in Christ
FreeGrace2 said:
What??!! No, that isn't right. The point of the entire Bible is the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Without a doubt.
But that wasn't what was said. So I corrected it.
What??!! No, that isn't right. The point of the entire Bible is the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Without a doubt.
But that wasn't what was said. So I corrected it.
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nope
the Bible is an indispensable tool but not the be all and end all of salvation. the Bible saves no one at all.
Jesus is the be all and end all of God's plan of salvation for....hold onto your seat folks....THE ENTIRE WORLD*
God does not command salvation. y'all are making things up now. tsk
* I am not promoting universal salvation which is not biblical, but rather the fact presented in John 3:16
For God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son that whosever believes in Him should have everlasting life
the Bible is an indispensable tool but not the be all and end all of salvation. the Bible saves no one at all.
Jesus is the be all and end all of God's plan of salvation for....hold onto your seat folks....THE ENTIRE WORLD*
God does not command salvation. y'all are making things up now. tsk
* I am not promoting universal salvation which is not biblical, but rather the fact presented in John 3:16
For God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son that whosever believes in Him should have everlasting life
@Gardenias I thought you may be interested in what is stated in Acts 1:1-2 since you thought the comment in Post 2369 was not accurate.
Acts 1:1-2
Jesus began both to do and teach, Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
Acts 1:1-2
Jesus began both to do and teach, Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
Precious Kelby, you are Very Welcome. And thank you for this kind and Great Discussion!
Precious Kelby, of course I may be mistaken, in that Israel was, By God,
"Commanded In The Law," to be "water baptized FOR the remission of sin," in
order to obtain "What God Had Promised":
1) Exo_19:6 And ye shall be unto Me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.
These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
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2) To those "gathered from 15 nations" from which there were "at Jerusalem
Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven." (Acts_2:5-12)
Act_2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received
of The Father The Promise of the Holy Ghost, He Hath Shed forth this, which ye
now see and hear.
Conclusion: Carrying these forward to apply to The Body Of CHRIST, Today, who is
NOT "under the law," But "Under GRACE," does, imho, create Massive Confusion, but
I could be mistaken
to be continued?...
Precious Kelby, of course I may be mistaken, in that Israel was, By God,
"Commanded In The Law," to be "water baptized FOR the remission of sin," in
order to obtain "What God Had Promised":
1) Exo_19:6 And ye shall be unto Me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.
These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
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2) To those "gathered from 15 nations" from which there were "at Jerusalem
Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven." (Acts_2:5-12)
Act_2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received
of The Father The Promise of the Holy Ghost, He Hath Shed forth this, which ye
now see and hear.
Conclusion: Carrying these forward to apply to The Body Of CHRIST, Today, who is
NOT "under the law," But "Under GRACE," does, imho, create Massive Confusion, but
I could be mistaken
to be continued?...
Yes, Baptism is required . . . Baptism of the Holy Spirit, which is Circumcision of the Heart . . . a Work performed by Christ, not by any human.
Colossians 2:11 KJV - "In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ"
And where does Faith come from? God Himself . . .
Romans 12:3, 6 NLT - "Because of the privilege and authority God has given me, I give each of you this warning: Don't think you are better than you really are. Be honest in your evaluation of yourselves, measuring yourselves by the faith God has given us."
And Repentance? How it this established? By God Himself . . .
Acts 11:18 CSB - "When they heard this they became silent. And they glorified God, saying, "So then, God has given repentance resulting in life even to the Gentiles."
And Righteousness? Where does this come from? By God Himself . . .
Psalm 24:5 KJV - "He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation."
True Baptism is Circumcision performed by God (Deut 30:6), the Holy Spirit (Rom 2:29), and Christ (Col 2:11) = One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
This world is corrupt, including H20 . . . thus mere physical, corrupt water cannot Produce Purity . . . only the One True God is capable of doing that. For anyone to suggest that something from this corrupt, physical world can save . . . completely defies the entire, whole, complete point of the Bible . . . the [entire] Bible (and not just an itty bitty piece of it like Acts 2:38).
Colossians 2:11 KJV - "In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ"
And where does Faith come from? God Himself . . .
Romans 12:3, 6 NLT - "Because of the privilege and authority God has given me, I give each of you this warning: Don't think you are better than you really are. Be honest in your evaluation of yourselves, measuring yourselves by the faith God has given us."
And Repentance? How it this established? By God Himself . . .
Acts 11:18 CSB - "When they heard this they became silent. And they glorified God, saying, "So then, God has given repentance resulting in life even to the Gentiles."
And Righteousness? Where does this come from? By God Himself . . .
Psalm 24:5 KJV - "He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation."
True Baptism is Circumcision performed by God (Deut 30:6), the Holy Spirit (Rom 2:29), and Christ (Col 2:11) = One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
This world is corrupt, including H20 . . . thus mere physical, corrupt water cannot Produce Purity . . . only the One True God is capable of doing that. For anyone to suggest that something from this corrupt, physical world can save . . . completely defies the entire, whole, complete point of the Bible . . . the [entire] Bible (and not just an itty bitty piece of it like Acts 2:38).
You are wrong.
Don't tell me I don't have faith...you have no reason to assign that to me. God's commandments are not classed as my efforts. Those I try to keep atall times including not trying to change His word. That which I see you are failure in.
You best study and be guided by scriptures. I can tell at this point you are not. There is only one water immersion baptism.
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