The highest vaccinated countries compared to the least Vaccinated countries

[ZNP]

In the total deaths by country how will you determine the number of deaths that were prior to the vaccines? For instance the total deaths are from the beginning of the pandemic(2019) and throughout 2020(no vaccine approved at that time). Anyway that's the hurdle in that for instance in the US they only reached the 70% goal in August of 2021(so 4 months ago) and so isn't that the only time-frame to consider?

This is a valid point. It would be nice if we could parse out that data. I will see if I can do that.

 

[gb9]

Instead of chasing pundit websites, go to the data source. I live in Florida. We have been open for business since last summer. Florida's DHS website provides real covid19 data for the previous week (updated every Friday). Take a little time and look at the numbers.

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_p..._archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf

The one thing that really stands out is that all peaks occur after a holiday.

Another point that stands out is age group infections. The interesting point here is the higher the vaccination rate, the lower the infection rate. (look at the new cases per 100,000).

Early intervention and treatment is emphasized by the governor and a large part of the state's physicians has saved many lives.

a couple of things here-

more people get tested during the holiday season than the rest of the year, as in america has almost 2.3 million test results just today.

more testing, more cases.

and, i have researched covid data daily ( and i do mean daily), it seems as if the virus transmits more strongly when folks get around other people that they usually are not around.

so, just like last winter, as people return to their normal lives after the holidays end, the virus should quickly wind down, as happened in jan. feb of this year....

 

[ZNP]

a couple of things here-

more people get tested during the holiday season than the rest of the year, as in america has almost 2.3 million test results just today.

more testing, more cases.

and, i have researched covid data daily ( and i do mean daily), it seems as if the virus transmits more strongly when folks get around other people that they usually are not around.

so, just like last winter, as people return to their normal lives after the holidays end, the virus should quickly wind down, as happened in jan. feb of this year....

This is why this thread is not about the number who are tested positive. Focusing exclusively on the dead.

 

[gb9]

sorry mr. gatekeeper.

i will show myself out the door.

 

[ZNP]

In the total deaths by country how will you determine the number of deaths that were prior to the vaccines? For instance the total deaths are from the beginning of the pandemic(2019) and throughout 2020(no vaccine approved at that time). Anyway that's the hurdle in that for instance in the US they only reached the 70% goal in August of 2021(so 4 months ago) and so isn't that the only time-frame to consider?

Chad <1% vaccinated as of Dec 29th, 2021

Dec 31, 2020 104 total dead

Dec 29, 2021 181 total dead

Chad — 77 dead since Jan 1 2021

Chad 43% of the dead were in 2021.

So then in 2021 the death rate dropped to about 8 per million, maybe lower, in 2021.

Gibraltar (highest vaccinated country on Earth)

6 dead as of Dec 31, 2020

100 dead as of Dec 29, 2021

In Gibraltar 94% of their dead have come after the vaccine was out.

Gibraltar had 178 dead per million prior to the vaccine and now they have 2,969 dead per million.

(I pull this data off of Worldometer, anyone can do the research, it is tedious, but have at it)

 

[ZNP]

 

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[iamsoandso]

You can hover over the charts(total coronavirus deaths in Gibraltar) and see that the deaths began to rise in January 2021-Febuary 2021https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/gibraltar/ but following CNN the vaccination process began after the rise in deaths(article is dated April 1,2021) and so it is after the month or so of rise in deaths(almost an hundred if you hover over the scale). https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/gibraltar-covid-vaccinations/index.html

 

[ZNP]

You can hover over the charts(total coronavirus deaths in Gibraltar) and see that the deaths began to rise in January 2021-Febuary 2021https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/gibraltar/ but following CNN the vaccination process began after the rise in deaths(article is dated April 1,2021) and so it is after the month or so of rise in deaths(almost an hundred if you hover over the scale). https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/gibraltar-covid-vaccinations/index.html

There are a number of issues. For example most of these countries in both charts do not see people dying until about May 2020 or even as late as July 2020. So you are comparing approx 6 months of deaths pre vax to 12 months after.

I went with Jan 1, 2021 because the vaccine was out in December and since these are the highest vaccinated countries I figured it would be better to include January.

Also you have to include Gibraltar, but the population is so small a few dead can make a huge difference.

Still if the vaccine was some great salvation for society it sure does not appear to be, you can hover or sift all you like you won't see the highly vaccinated countries showing improvement relative to the unvaccinated.

I would expect all countries as they came to realize how to respond to the pandemic to have done better. The idea that the vaccine reduced deaths cannot be seen in this data.

 

[iamsoandso]

There are a number of issues. For example most of these countries in both charts do not see people dying until about May 2020 or even as late as July 2020. So you are comparing approx 6 months of deaths pre vax to 12 months after.

I went with Jan 1, 2021 because the vaccine was out in December and since these are the highest vaccinated countries I figured it would be better to include January.

Also you have to include Gibraltar, but the population is so small a few dead can make a huge difference.

Still if the vaccine was some great salvation for society it sure does not appear to be, you can hover or sift all you like you won't see the highly vaccinated countries showing improvement relative to the unvaccinated.

I would expect all countries as they came to realize how to respond to the pandemic to have done better. The idea that the vaccine reduced deaths cannot be seen in this data.

In Gibraltar this is what their government said https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-...ild-vaccination-is-irresponsible-6532021-7238 so the adult population is fully vaccinated(-3%) but the children 17 and under were not yet all vaccinated on September 16,2021. that's all though,,just some things to consider...good night

 

[Nehemiah6]

This is why this thread is not about the number who are tested positive. Focusing exclusively on the dead.

People should download a copy of The Vaccine Death Report.
THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT – Millions Have Died From The Injections
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/report/

 

[ZNP]

People should download a copy of The Vaccine Death Report.
THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT – Millions Have Died From The Injections
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/report/

Again, a different topic than this thread. We are being told that it is good for society to get vaccinated. That getting vaccinated will put an end to the pandemic. I am simply looking at the highest vaccinated countries as the vanguard, the example for the rest of us and if there was any truth to this they would demonstrate that being vaccinated was a huge advantage over the least vaccinated countries on Earth. We don't see that, we don't see any evidence at all that this is true. On the contrary we see the opposite. This is the fundamental argument for a vaccine mandate and there is no evidence at all that it is true.