Has the Gospel been preached in all the world?

[soberxp]

This is something to consider, wise words.

Many many preachers go from church to church preaching the gospel to christian people who already have heard about Jesus.

We should be going outside the church, that is where the Gospel is needed, now I am not blaming these preachers because one does not simply pack up and go to India to preach the gospel, its not that simple. But all I am saying is, the Church should focus on reaching the unreached.

The actual situation is that many people try to contact the Bible in the past, but the results are not well. I often encounter hostages who doubt God's words because they have read some scriptures, but even if give them reasonable answers, they will not have any feedback, because they have been brainwashed by atheism.
These people account for a large part of the gospel preach.

 

[Isaskar]

The actual situation is that many people try to contact the Bible in the past, but the results are not well. I often encounter hostages who doubt God's words because they have read some scriptures, but even if give them reasonable answers, they will not have any feedback, because they have been brainwashed by atheism.
These people account for a large part of the gospel preach.

True.

Japan is a prime example of this, there has been much missionairy activity in Japan but to no use. They just will not accept the Gospel.

 

[DLM]

Does the world expand as time goes on ?

In the New Testament, How many years had to pass away before a prophecy was considered true or false?

 

[DLM]

Of course it is. Have you never read this part of the bible??

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The book has 5 chapters. I recommend starting at the beginning then you uill find the rapture up into the clouds in the 4th chapter.

Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18)

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

When we compare Caught up, Air and Meet.

Caught up (Harpazo)

Air (Aer)

Meet (Apantesis)

Caught up - Harpazo does not carry the idea of physical removal. It can mean 1. to seize, carry off by force 2. to seize on, claim for one's self eagerly 3. to snatch out or away.

When Paul was " caught up" (Harpazo) in 2 Corinthians 12:2-6 we know Paul remained on earth.

Air has two Greek words Aer and Ouranos.

Ouranos means the upper atmosphere.

Aer means the lower atmosphere.

Paul uses "air" (Aer) in verse 17. This is the air we breathe. In other words One does not have to leave the earth to be in the Aer.

Meet (Apantesis) It is when people would meet a royal dignitary and escort him back to their city.

Apantesis is used in the bible only three times it's in Matthew 25:6, Acts 28:15 and 1 Thessalonians 4:17

From 1 Thessalonians 4:17 I believe we are spiritually caught up to meet Jesus. Now we are in the Body of Christ, His Kingdom the New Jerusalem.

Did Jesus ever teach about a Rapture? No. He never intended to take people off the earth until they died physically. Jesus even prayed about it. (John 17:15)

 

[Pilgrimshope]

In the New Testament, How many years had to pass away before a prophecy was considered true or false?

if God set a time it would be that time most often prophecy doesn’t say it will be fulfilled at any certain time

so unless God specifies in the prophecy no one knows could be a day or a thousand years but , that’s faith to believe what God said and live in that faith as if it’s true

 

[DLM]

if God set a time it would be that time most often prophecy doesn’t say it will be fulfilled at any certain time

so unless God specifies in the prophecy no one knows could be a day or a thousand years but , that’s faith to believe what God said and live in that faith as if it’s true

Jesus said all prophecy would be fulfilled IN His Generation (Luke 21:22; 32, Matthew 24:34)

He even said in Matthew 23:34-39 - The first century Jews in Jerusalem would take the fall for killing His prophets.

Hebrews 1:1-2 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom He also made the world.

PROPHETS HAVE PASSED AWAY (1 Corinthians 13:8-10)

 

[Nehemiah6]

Jesus said No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. John 3:13

This verse is frequently misunderstood. "Ascended" is the key word and it speaks of the ascension of Christ after His resurrection. No man -- other than Christ -- has been resurrected and then ascended to Heaven. That was said for a specific time and place. While we are not told about Moses being taken to Heaven, we are clearly told that both Enoch and Elijah were supernaturally transported or translated to Heaven before the ascension of Christ. And since the Bible does not contradict itself it should be clear that what Christ said in John 3:13 was unique to Himself. To make it even more unique He said that the Son of Man was in Heaven at the same time that He was on earth. How could that be unless He is God? So what it really means is that the resurrection and ascension of Christ were totally unique. He not only came down from Heaven, but He is in Heaven, and He also ascended to Heaven.

 

[DLM]

This verse is frequently misunderstood. "Ascended" is the key word and it speaks of the ascension of Christ after His resurrection. No man -- other than Christ -- has been resurrected and then ascended to Heaven. That was said for a specific time and place. While we are not told about Moses being taken to Heaven, we are clearly told that both Enoch and Elijah were supernaturally transported or translated to Heaven before the ascension of Christ. And since the Bible does not contradict itself it should be clear that what Christ said in John 3:13 was unique to Himself. To make it even more unique He said that the Son of Man was in Heaven at the same time that He was on earth. How could that be unless He is God? So what it really means is that the resurrection and ascension of Christ were totally unique. He not only came down from Heaven, but He is in Heaven, and He also ascended to Heaven.

I can see why you believe that. This is how I see it:

Prior to Jesus' ascension to heaven no one went to Heaven. They went to Sheol (Old Testement) and Hades (New Testament.) John 3:13 They waited for the atoning work of Christ and the resurrection from the dead.

In the Old Testament, the Hebrew word for where they were prior to the resurrection is Sheol. In the New Testament the Greek word is Hades. This place was a waiting area for disembodied spirits.

Hades is was also known as "Abraham's bosom" the faithful Israelite was said to be "gathered unto his fathers." it was not Heaven.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Prior to Jesus' ascension to heaven no one went to Heaven.

The Bible says otherwise, so might want to revise your misunderstanding.
And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal... And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (2 Kings 2:1,11)

Now do you wish to contradict God, or should you say "Sorry, I was seriously mistaken?"

 

[DLM]

The Bible says otherwise, so might want to revise your misunderstanding.
And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal... And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (2 Kings 2:1,11)

Now do you wish to contradict God, or should you say "Sorry, I was seriously mistaken?"

The Bible tells us the resurrection was to be at the end of the Old Covenant age. We know this happened in AD 70 with the destruction of the Jewish Temple. The disciples clearly knew that the fall of the temple and the destruction of the city meant the end of the Old Covenant age and the beginning of a new age. (New Covenant) There was only one resurrection to take place and that was in AD 70. After that when a Christian dies he/she goes directly to heaven.

If the TIME of the resurrection is seen as AD 70, then we know that the NATURE of the resurrection was spiritual, rather than physical. It is a fundamental fact of eschatology that TIME DEFINES NATURE. Since we know that the resurrection is past, we know that it was spiritual and not physical. The resurrection of the dead that took place at the end of the Old Covenant in AD 70 and was not a biological resurrection of dead decayed bodies, but a release from Sheol and Hades of all who had been waiting through the centuries to be reunited with God in the heavenly kingdom.

Christ Jesus, went to Hades at death. When he was resurrected from Hades, He had His original body, then was transformed into His heavenly form.
Psalms 16:10 ; Acts 2:31 Jesus was resurrected from both, spiritual death (the soul in Hades) and physical death.

Jesus' body had to be resurrected not only to fulfill prophesy but to how His disciples that His soul had been to Hades and had been resurrected. A key point is the resurrection of Jesus had to be shown otherwise the spiritual would not be known. Another words, the physical resurrection of our bodies would have no point, you cannot see it, we will not be on the earth anymore at that point we would be in heaven.

The resurrection was a one time event in which the Old Testament saints were brought out of Hades and finally overcame death to be with the Lord. We have put on immortality and will put on our immortal body when we die physically. As believers, we live in the presence of God, and in physical death, we simply drop the flesh and dwell only in the spiritual realm, which will seem as thought it were physical, but with more dimensions and much better!

 

[DLM]

The Bible says otherwise, so might want to revise your misunderstanding.
And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal... And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (2 Kings 2:1,11)

Now do you wish to contradict God, or should you say "Sorry, I was seriously mistaken?"

Did Elijah, Enoch, and Mosses ascend to heaven before Jesus? NO

Jesus said No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. John 3:13

No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. John 1:18

So how can Elijah, Enoch, and Moses ascend to heaven?

Elijah, Enoch, and Moses went from Paradise in Hades then to Heaven after Jesus became the first to return.

Since Jesus descended to heaven first, everyone that dies goes to Heaven instead of Hades.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Did Elijah, Enoch, and Mosses ascend to heaven before Jesus? NO

You just CONTRADICTED God since I gave you the exact Scriptures! And I could give you a couple for Enoch, but you will continue to CONTRADICT God. That's called skating on thin ice.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Jesus said all prophecy would be fulfilled IN His Generation (Luke 21:22; 32, Matthew 24:34)

He even said in Matthew 23:34-39 - The first century Jews in Jerusalem would take the fall for killing His prophets.

Hebrews 1:1-2 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom He also made the world.

PROPHETS HAVE PASSED AWAY (1 Corinthians 13:8-10)

yeah Jerusalem was sacked in 67 ad the temple destroyed the people dispersed into all Nations cast out of Jerusalem. Your talking about Jerusalem’s curse from the old Testament being fulfilled. The ot prophecies we’re fulfilled though not all yet.

But the apostles and disciples were prophets also there’s a whole New Testament of prophecy

“Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭3:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬


I think generation should be considered like this

“This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭5:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we’re told of one generation of creation and then renewed generation Through Christ new beginning

What your saying is the Old Testament been fulfilled which is correct but until the end Gods words will Continue to be fulfilled as he said

remember in chaoter 24 of Matthew he’s asked two questions when will the destruction of Jerusalem happen ? And also what and when will the signs of the end of The world be

he answers both questions and many people don’t gather that he’s asked two questions one about thier immediate future in Jerusalem. And then another about the end of the world .

which ones the conclusion of both testaments Jerusalem’s destruction d the dispersion of the Jews fulfilled the curse and the end of the world will
Be the culmination of the New Testament on earth

Jesus came one time to fulfill what tre ot said about the messiah coming . Jesus will return one time to deliver his promises in the New Testament

“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:40-43, ‭KJV‬‬

“So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:49-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s not prophecy regarding Jerusalem’s destruction like THe ot . it’s a foretelling of the end of THe world and ushering in of the eternal Kingdom promised that is not of this ending world

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there are two testaments brother one is fulfilled and one is being fulfilled

 

[DLM]

You just CONTRADICTED God since I gave you the exact Scriptures! And I could give you a couple for Enoch, but you will continue to CONTRADICT God. That's called skating on thin ice.

Really? Jesus said No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. John 3:13

yeah Jerusalem was sacked in 67 ad the temple destroyed the people dispersed into all Nations cast out of Jerusalem. Your talking about Jerusalem’s curse from the old Testament being fulfilled. The ot prophecies we’re fulfilled though not all yet.

But the apostles and disciples were prophets also there’s a whole New Testament of prophecy

“Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭3:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬


I think generation should be considered like this

“This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭5:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we’re told of one generation of creation and then renewed generation Through Christ new beginning

What your saying is the Old Testament been fulfilled which is correct but until the end Gods words will Continue to be fulfilled as he said

remember in chaoter 24 of Matthew he’s asked two questions when will the destruction of Jerusalem happen ? And also what and when will the signs of the end of The world be

he answers both questions and many people don’t gather that he’s asked two questions one about thier immediate future in Jerusalem. And then another about the end of the world .

which ones the conclusion of both testaments Jerusalem’s destruction d the dispersion of the Jews fulfilled the curse and the end of the world will
Be the culmination of the New Testament on earth

Jesus came one time to fulfill what tre ot said about the messiah coming . Jesus will return one time to deliver his promises in the New Testament

“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:40-43, ‭KJV‬‬

“So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:49-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s not prophecy regarding Jerusalem’s destruction like THe ot . it’s a foretelling of the end of THe world and ushering in of the eternal Kingdom promised that is not of this ending world

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there are two testaments brother one is fulfilled and one is being fulfilled

Matthew 24: 3 And as He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, WHEN will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your COMING, and of the END OF THE AGE?”

The end of the age came in 70AD when the Temple was destroyed. Jesus returned exactly when He said He would. In His GENERATION. Do you see the word "Coming" in the above verse?

Luke 21:22; 32 - All things written were fulfilled IN His Generation

Matthew 24:34 Jesus told His disciples their generation will not pass away until all these things are fulfilled.

Matthew 10:23 - Jesus told His Apostles they would not have time to preach in every city of Israel before he had come.

Matthew 16:27-28 - Some of Jesus' disciples would not die before His coming.

Matthew 21:40-45- If the chief priests and Pharisees knew it was them, How can this be in our future? Pharisees do not exist in this century.

Matthew 23:34-39 - The first century Jews in Jerusalem would take the fall for killing His prophets

Matthew 26:59-64 "Coming in the clouds of heaven" means God is coming in judgment and the high priest would see it before he died.

Mark 1:14-15 Jesus is saying time is complete and His Kingdom is being established when He spoke it.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Really? Jesus said No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. John 3:13



Matthew 24: 3 And as He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, WHEN will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your COMING, and of the END OF THE AGE?”

The end of the age came in 70AD when the Temple was destroyed. Jesus returned exactly when He said He would. In His GENERATION. Do you see the word "Coming" in the above verse?

Luke 21:22; 32 - All things written were fulfilled IN His Generation

Matthew 24:34 Jesus told His disciples their generation will not pass away until all these things are fulfilled.

Matthew 10:23 - Jesus told His Apostles they would not have time to preach in every city of Israel before he had come.

Matthew 16:27-28 - Some of Jesus' disciples would not die before His coming.

Matthew 21:40-45- If the chief priests and Pharisees knew it was them, How can this be in our future? Pharisees do not exist in this century.

Matthew 23:34-39 - The first century Jews in Jerusalem would take the fall for killing His prophets

Matthew 26:59-64 "Coming in the clouds of heaven" means God is coming in judgment and the high priest would see it before he died.

Mark 1:14-15 Jesus is saying time is complete and His Kingdom is being established when He spoke it.

“The end of the age came in 70AD when the Temple was destroyed. Jesus returned exactly when He said He would. In His GENERATION. Do you see the word "Coming" in the above verse?”


Are you saying Jesus has already returned ?

 

[soberxp]

This verse is frequently misunderstood. "Ascended" is the key word and it speaks of the ascension of Christ after His resurrection. No man -- other than Christ -- has been resurrected and then ascended to Heaven. That was said for a specific time and place. While we are not told about Moses being taken to Heaven, we are clearly told that both Enoch and Elijah were supernaturally transported or translated to Heaven before the ascension of Christ. And since the Bible does not contradict itself it should be clear that what Christ said in John 3:13 was unique to Himself. To make it even more unique He said that the Son of Man was in Heaven at the same time that He was on earth. How could that be unless He is God? So what it really means is that the resurrection and ascension of Christ were totally unique. He not only came down from Heaven, but He is in Heaven, and He also ascended to Heaven.

Both Enoch and Elijah were supernaturally transported or translated to Heaven before the ascension of Christ. These things predicted the coming of Jesus.

And as Paul said : not all we sleep.

These things do not contradict the following。

Jesus said No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. John 3:13

 

[Gardenias]

Study to show yourself APPROVED....

 

[DLM]

“The end of the age came in 70AD when the Temple was destroyed. Jesus returned exactly when He said He would. In His GENERATION. Do you see the word "Coming" in the above verse?”


Are you saying Jesus has already returned ?

I believe His Coming in judgment has happened Spiritually just like EVERY Coming in judgment that took place, in the entire bible? Just because God was not seen, the events were, and history has been written to prove it.

In Matthew 24 were told all the events that would happen in the Destruction of Jerusalem. Most Christians were taught this was not a Coming. What does verse 3 say? Coming! All of these events are part of the Olivet Discourse which took place before 70AD ended. Matthew, Mark and Luke write about it in their gospels. And John writes about the Olivet Discourse in Revelation. It's not in his gospel. So, the Olivet Discourse is not about a future coming in judgment. It's about the Destruction of Jerusalem that ended the Age.

Matthew 24 is the "setting" for the Olivet Discourse, His Coming, the End of the Age and the temples destruction. Notice that Jesus' Apostles equated the Destruction of the Temple with His Coming and the End of the Age. Again this is not the end of the world it was the end of the Mosaic age. (Matthew 24:3, Jeremiah 31:31)

 

[soberxp]

I believe His Coming in judgment has happened Spiritually just like EVERY Coming in judgment that took place, in the entire bible? Just because God was not seen, the events were, and history has been written to prove it.

In Matthew 24 were told all the events that would happen in the Destruction of Jerusalem. Most Christians were taught this was not a Coming. What does verse 3 say? Coming! All of these events are part of the Olivet Discourse which took place before 70AD ended. Matthew, Mark and Luke write about it in their gospels. And John writes about the Olivet Discourse in Revelation. It's not in his gospel. So, the Olivet Discourse is not about a future coming in judgment. It's about the Destruction of Jerusalem that ended the Age.

Matthew 24 is the "setting" for the Olivet Discourse, His Coming, the End of the Age and the temples destruction. Notice that Jesus' Apostles equated the Destruction of the Temple with His Coming and the End of the Age. Again this is not the end of the world it was the end of the Mosaic age. (Matthew 24:3, Jeremiah 31:31)

the temples destruction Heralds the coming of new Jerusalem, the new bride, who is united with Christ.
The Church or saints united with Christ.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I believe His Coming in judgment has happened Spiritually just like EVERY Coming in judgment that took place, in the entire bible? Just because God was not seen, the events were, and history has been written to prove it.

In Matthew 24 were told all the events that would happen in the Destruction of Jerusalem. Most Christians were taught this was not a Coming. What does verse 3 say? Coming! All of these events are part of the Olivet Discourse which took place before 70AD ended. Matthew, Mark and Luke write about it in their gospels. And John writes about the Olivet Discourse in Revelation. It's not in his gospel. So, the Olivet Discourse is not about a future coming in judgment. It's about the Destruction of Jerusalem that ended the Age.

Matthew 24 is the "setting" for the Olivet Discourse, His Coming, the End of the Age and the temples destruction. Notice that Jesus' Apostles equated the Destruction of the Temple with His Coming and the End of the Age. Again this is not the end of the world it was the end of the Mosaic age. (Matthew 24:3, Jeremiah 31:31)

so….. are you saying Jesus already returned ? The world already ended ?

So For instance this already happened or isn’t going to happen ?

“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4:15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that is all just spiritual d already happened ? I’m honestly not really
Following what your saying Jesus already came back ? This already happened ???

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:29-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:7‬ ‭

this already happened I’m actually interested in what your saying but I’m not understanding your position are you saying Jesus already returned ?