Will the world come to an end?

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2ndTimothyGroup

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I quake at your obviously verifiable testimony!!



They determine whether they'll receive Him or not (and whichever consequences result from that choice). He doesn't force Himself on anyone.



Statements like this do nothing but reveal one's own arrogance because it isn't edifying (which, itself, is evidence that one HASN'T actually felt His raw, almighty power, as pride ain't one of His characteristics). You're not sharing what you could be referring to with regard to correcting or challenging the statement I gave.
Pride? Nice one.

Folks . . . if you want to learn how to falsely judge another person's heart . . . listen to "@Yahshua" . . . this person is extremely good at it.
 
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I quake at your obviously verifiable testimony!!



They determine whether they'll receive Him or not (and whichever consequences result from that choice). He doesn't force Himself on anyone.



Statements like this do nothing but reveal one's own arrogance because it isn't edifying (which, itself, is evidence that one HASN'T actually felt His raw, almighty power, as pride ain't one of His characteristics). You're not sharing what you could be referring to with regard to correcting or challenging the statement I gave.
i think he means well in saying that the Bible paints a picture, from Beginning to End, for us to see thru faith, which i know you are able to see and which i greatly appreciate - thank you Brother.
 
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What exactly are you contributing here? Please enlighten me?
Its a chatroom. Didn't know I had to contribute to anything. Maybe if you were here for actual "Christian chat" you'll feel different. But its obvious you have other motives here from the type of question you just ask me. So maybe I should hear and share views with people who can handle constructive criticism when it comes to different view. You take car hun, and God bless.
 

soberxp

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What exactly are you contributing here? Please enlighten me?
2ndTimothyGroup said nothing proud words, I only saw his modesty.
I wonder why you see his pride?
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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2ndTimothyGroup said nothing proud words, I only saw his modesty.
I wonder why you see his pride?
Because that person hasn't experienced what I have experienced. Thus, people like this find one path in their hearts, and it is to lend discredit. Most "christians" are like this . . . they all think they have "arrived"

My former best friend used to say crap like, "What I say has been established by the Lord." Good grief. What he meant by that is that any time a person said anything that went against him, the opposing person was wrong . . . no questions asked. I find that to be completely and utterly repulsive. No one can get anywhere with that brand of "christian." (note the lower case c.)
 

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2ndTimothyGroup said nothing proud words, I only saw his modesty.
I wonder why you see his pride?
Twice, replying to my comments He's made open statements that "people need to read the entire bible" insinuating that I haven't. Judged me twice. The first time I turned the cheek, the second time I called him out on it. The statement does nothing to edify. My message to him is if there is a fault in what I said be secure enough in what you know to address it specifically and correct a brother.

He hasn't done that and instead continues to direct the issue towards me, as if he has a problem with me.

Pride? Nice one.

Folks . . . if you want to learn how to falsely judge another person's heart . . . listen to "@Yahshua" . . . this person is extremely good at it.
Once again, edify if you have knowledge I lack with regard to what I've said. Don't just make general statements because you appear arrogant.
 
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Because that person hasn't experienced what I have experienced. Thus, people like this find one path in their hearts, and it is to lend discredit. Most "christians" are like this . . . they all think they have "arrived"

My former best friend used to say crap like, "What I say has been established by the Lord." Good grief. What he meant by that is that any time a person said anything that went against him, the opposing person was wrong . . . no questions asked. I find that to be completely and utterly repulsive. No one can get anywhere with that brand of "christian." (note the lower case c.)
Well I see why you aren't friends with that person anymore. A friend is not going to think they are right all the time and you are wrong. A friend share views. A friend also listen and accept that you can agree to disagree. Actually at this point that what adults do. So I shouldn't say friends
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Well I see why you aren't friends with that person anymore. A friend is not going to think they are right all the time and you are wrong. A friend share views. A friend also listen and accept that you can agree to disagree. Actually at this point that what adults do. So I shouldn't say friends
I couldn't agree more. We need to be open to each other . . . but he was closed off. He became so difficult to be around. I couldn't stand it anylonger.
 

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I don't like to quote the original Bible very much. Why should we still eat milk? Why can't we eat raw?
I'll agree we need to be able to go deeper in the Spirit and learn to walk it out.

The thing is though, the Word of God is our checks and balances. The Holy Spirit agrees with and won't go against the word
of God. When we think we have learned something new we always need to check it against the scriptures.

Also in discussions, we need to be able to provide the word of God as evidence. If we can't do that then it is merely our own opinion and has no sustenance at all.
 

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Its a chatroom. Didn't know I had to contribute to anything. Maybe if you were here for actual "Christian chat" you'll feel different. But its obvious you have other motives here from the type of question you just ask me. So maybe I should hear and share views with people who can handle constructive criticism when it comes to different view. You take car hun, and God bless.
It's a forum. Whether a chat or a forum, if one isn't contributing then what's the point of communicating? And this is specifically the bible discussion forum, where we discuss the bible based on the specific thread topic. It's crazy how two recent members seek to explain to me etiquette and character having spent little time here to actually get to know me or the things I've shared. Just arguing for the sake of arguing. It's wild.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Twice, replying to my comments He's made open statements that "people need to read the entire bible" insinuating that I haven't. Judged me twice. The first time I turned the cheek, the second time I called him out on it. The statement does nothing to edify. My message to him is if there is a fault in what I said be secure enough in what you know to address it specifically and correct a brother.

He hasn't done that and instead continues to direct the issue towards me, as if he has a problem with me.



Once again, edify if you have knowledge I lack with regard to what I've said. Don't just make general statements because you appear arrogant.
I called it the way I see it.
 

Yahshua

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I called it the way I see it.
lol and still nothing specific about what I said, to correct it...edify me.


James 3:16-18
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.


Philippians 2:3-8
3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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lol and still nothing specific about what I said, to correct it...edify me.
I think you're a bit triggered. Why do I say that? Because I haven't a clue as to what you and I have been going on about. What you aren't realizing is, is that this is not the only thread that I have been posting towards. I have been posting to other threads as well where I am dealing with a group of people who refuse to acknowledge obvious and clear scripture.

Listen . . . there are more people in this world than just yourself. Not everything is about you . . . know what I mean?
 

1ofthem

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lol and still nothing specific about what I said, to correct it...edify me.


James 3:16-18
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.


Philippians 2:3-8
3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
That's good advice that we all (especially me) need to hear from time to time. :)
 

soberxp

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Twice, replying to my comments He's made open statements that "people need to read the entire bible" insinuating that I haven't. Judged me twice. The first time I turned the cheek, the second time I called him out on it. The statement does nothing to edify. My message to him is if there is a fault in what I said be secure enough in what you know to address it specifically and correct a brother.

He hasn't done that and instead continues to direct the issue towards me, as if he has a problem with me.



Once again, edify if you have knowledge I lack with regard to what I've said. Don't just make general statements because you appear arrogant.
I think you think more and associate more. He just said that we need to read the whole Bible completely. He didn't say that what you expressed is wrong. I think you think more.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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That's good advice that we all (especially me) need to hear from time to time. :)
Except that his quotes of the Bible were not about me. I wrote, "I wish PEOPLE would . . . "

If I was pointing my finger at Yahshua, I would have just stated it clearly. I'm not an afraid "keyboard warrior" that can't say things plain and clear.

Besides, how is my saying "I wish people would read the Bible in a timeline, chronological order" judging another person's heart? There is no sin in this. Reading a Bible isn't a judgment of heart; it is a judgment of action. What is more, I haven't a clue if Yahshua has read the Bible in a timeline, chronological order, or not. I didn't ask him! I was just expressing a general frustration that extends across multiple threads.

Good grief, we are sensitive today.
 

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It's religion that teaches end of the world is near not the bible. The bible actually teaches the very opposite. Yet Pastors coming out of seminary school still want to teach the world is coming to an end. Do you think they do that to keep you coming to church and take your money? I do.

The belief that the world will end some day is a distraction and leads to escapism. Escapism is describes as the tendency to seek distraction and relief from unpleasant realities, especially by seeking entertainment or engaging in fantasy. Or habitual diversion of the mind to purely imaginative activity or entertainment as an escape from reality or routine. This distraction has no religious or spiritual basis, and therefore results in an abandonment mentality.

These types of people approach the Bible as if it were written to them ignoring what we call audience relevance. They read it as if it was penned in our own generation and time. Most Christians and non Christians fail to properly understand eschatology they see it all as physical and material while the New Testament is mostly spiritual. Where they fail is on covenant transformation. In other words, "covenant eschatology" is the more accurate Biblical teaching.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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I think you think more and associate more. He just said that we need to read the whole Bible completely. He didn't say that what you expressed is wrong. I think you think more.
Thank you my friend. I have noticed your support of my comments for a long time, now. I know for a fact that you are reading me correctly. I appreciate you . . . believe me. :D
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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It's religion that teaches end of the world is near not the bible. The bible actually teaches the very opposite. Yet Pastors coming out of seminary school still want to teach the world is coming to an end. Do you think they do that to keep you coming to church and take your money? I do.
Oh my goodness . . . there is much of this going on, isn't there? Our pastors of today are in some deep, deep "stuff." I'll bet you've noticed that we have very few professing pastors in here. I wish we did . . . I'd love to ask them some extremely hard questions. Like, "Why don't you preach the actual Gospel?"
 

1ofthem

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Good grief, we are sensitive today.
I hear you. It does get frustrating at times for all of us.

It's alright, though we'll all get through it with the help of the Lord...

That's all I was saying the scripture he posted was a good reminder for all of us...you, me, him, all of us.