The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

keiw · Jan 7, 2022

I am not sure what you are saying, please learn how to quote.

I am not God.

I do not think God allows unbelievers to write the word of God.

You have no right to judge people.[/QUOTE]

I havent judged. I showed fact from the bible. Solomon fell to false god worship. He threw God away by taking foreign wives when God told them not to. Then started serving their false god. Maybe many dont realize. There are no real false gods, it is satan posing as them. So he turned his worship to satan. So does one actually think one being mislead into doing that will go to heaven?

Everlasting-Grace · Jan 7, 2022

keiw said:

You have not shown anything, if you want to show me a fact. Show me where the Bible says soloman is in hell..

soloman wrote the book of proverbs, did you not know this? Now you want to try to convince me the man who wrote proverbs about his own struggles and sin and everything he shared with us about his mistakes will be in hell?

Sorry bro. I am not buying it.

Wansvic · Jan 7, 2022

KelbyofGod said:

The man Jesus healed was blind from birth. (John 9-1) Whereas, all humanity is born spiritually blind due to the fall. The man was sent to the pool of Siloam where he received his natural sight. A parallel is seen concerning New Testament believers. They too are sent by Jesus to the waters of baptism. (Acts 1:1-2, Matt. 28:19, Mark 16:16) Those who take a step of faith and obey the command are able to see/comprehend the kingdom. (John 3:3) This truth is found in the record of Jesus' own baptism. It is recorded that the heaven's were opened unto Him when He came up out of the water. (Matt 3:16, Mark 1:10) Another interesting point is that on the day of creation God hovered over the water, and said let there be light. (Gen 1:1-3) We are told that spiritual truth can be understood by the things that God made. (Rom 1:20)

Consider, as well, what was prophesied by Isaiah. God says He will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them. (Isa 42:16) The following is referenced as parallel scripture.

Luke 3:3-8
3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;
4 As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
5 Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth;
6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.
7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

The Word clearly expresses that the Holy Ghost will lead people into all truth. And as seen from scripture the Holy Ghost can lead people from outside of the body. As well as from within those who have been indwelt. Some see, believe and obey the gospel message and submit to water baptism in Jesus' name before they are ever indwelt by the Holy Ghost. While others receive the Holy Ghost first.

Wansvic · Jan 7, 2022

keiw said:

. Yes the road is cramped means-there is no stepping off to the left or to the right. But one may do that along the way as Peter did when he denied Jesus after all he saw. The important thing stand back up as soon as possible. But the 2 lists i shared both teach will not enter Gods kingdom, so the righteous do not do those. Not only did those at Matt 7 think they were christian, they were told they were christian as well. I know one religion teaches-once saved always saved. That is not truth. Those at Matt 7 most assuredly found these teachers-2Corinthians 11:12-15. Even a baptized one can fall and when they do God says to remove them from amongst yourselves. 1Cor 5:9-13-- one called a brother is one who is baptized. God views them as wicked if they become unrepentent of their sin they turned back to.
Even some baptized ones remain sitting on the fence( neither hot or cold) as Jesus described it, He says he will vomit those out. Revelation 3:15,16

I agree that those who have been born again are required to pursue a Godly lifestyle. And it is only because of the indwelling of the Holy Ghost that it is even possible.

keiw · Jan 7, 2022

Everlasting-Grace said:

I didnt say Solomon was in hell. He is in Sheol= the grave. The resurrection has not occurred yet. John 3:13--No man has ascended into heaven but he( Jesus that descended from heaven.

keiw · Jan 7, 2022

Wansvic said:

There are 34,000 religions-Wikipedia claiming to be christian. All claim to have holy spirit. Is the Holy spirit confused like that-NO. Mens twistings have caused the confusion. 1Corinthians 1:10--unity of thought( all gods truth) no division. Jesus started 1 single religion. God had 1 single religion in the OT.

Everlasting-Grace · Jan 7, 2022

keiw said:

He is not in hades either

He is in paradise. Awaiting the ressurection of his body to glory

Everlasting-Grace · Jan 7, 2022

keiw said:

All denominations can be broken down into three seperate views

1. Licentious. Believe we can say a prayer and magicaly we are saved and can live however we want

2. grace, totally dependent on God for everything.

3. legalism. Salvation must be earned or maintained (else it can be lost) based on things we do or do not do.

the rest of the differences are other doctrinal differences and the way they worship.

keiw · Jan 7, 2022

Everlasting-Grace said:

The Hebrews call it Sheol = the Greek word Hades, both translate-the grave. Not one serving a false god will gain everlasting life. He threw God away to do it. He knew better. Paradise ( Eden) is the new earth. Not in the grave.
A misplaced comma has caused confusion
Truly i tell you, today you will be with me in paradise= error
Truly i tell you today, you will be with me in paradise= correct. The bible is clear-Jesus was in the grave 3 days before he was raised, he could not be in paradise on that first day.
And in the ot it is 100% clear--On the day of ones death all thought stops. Psalm 146:4--thus if its like you believe is everyone running around going-DUH-DUH-DUH?

Everlasting-Grace · Jan 7, 2022

keiw said:

No one who is lost has written the word of God

Your continued rejection of the fact Solomon wrote the proverbs, after he repented and came to his senses. Just shows there is somethign wrong with your thinking.

I pray you open your mind.

Abraham is not in hades, he is in paradise. And he always has. The lost the the saved do not go to the same resting place.

keiw · Jan 7, 2022

Everlasting-Grace said:

He wrote it before he fell.
No where in the bible does it say dead ones go to different places.

Everlasting-Grace · Jan 7, 2022

keiw said:

You need to study more my friend.

I will let this go. Not going to get anywhere.

KelbyofGod · Jan 8, 2022

@keiw
This passage seems appropriate to the part of the conversation about "different places" for the dead

Luke 16:19-23 KJV

There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: [20] And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, [21] And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. [22] And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; [23] And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Luke 16:24-27 KJV

And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. [25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. [26] And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. [27] Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

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