What idiot country is this?

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Channeling Jeff Foxworthy

If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license,
but not for being in the country illegally — you might live in a
nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip
or take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you
might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If you have to show identification to board an airplane, cash a
check, buy liquor, or check out a library book, but not to vote
who runs the government — you might live in a nation founded
by geniuses but run by idiots.

If the government wants to ban stable, law-abiding citizens from
owning gun magazines with more than ten rounds, but gives
twenty F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you
might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas,
but not a 24-ounce soda because 24-ounces of a sugary drink
might make you fat — you might live in a nation founded by
geniuses but run by idiots.

If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl confined to a
wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA, but a woman in
a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched
— you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions
of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a
nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his
teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class
in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation
founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If children are forcibly removed from parents who discipline them
with spankings, while children of addicts are left in filth- and drug-infested
“homes” — you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more
government intrusion, while not working is rewarded with EBT cards,
WIC checks, Medicaid, subsidized housing, and free cell phones
— you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to provide
incentives for not working through 99 weeks of unemployment checks,
without any requirement to prove they sought, but couldn’t find, work
— you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big
screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, wall-sized plasma do-it-all
TV’s and new cars, and the government forgives his debt when he
defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a nation founded by geniuses
but run by idiots.

If being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you more “safe”
according to the government — you might live in a nation founded by
geniuses but run by idiots.

This can't continue what must be done?
Oh, they aren't idiots. This is called INTENTIONAL DEMORALIZATION, and we are experiencing it because we are being targeted for destruction and because we refuse to recognize that and push back.
 
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The situation is very tense with Russia/NATO. The same with Israel/Iran. Iran attacked US military bases in Iraq and Syria just recently, and they still want revenge for the death of Soleimani.

Is the remnant church of Rev. 12:5 soon to be caught up to God and His throne?

I think it likely for Biden to be declared ‘medically unfit’ for office. President Kamala would increase the political divide even more in America. Civil strife would follow. An attempted coup could occur. The U.S. teeters on the brink of economic collapse. The U.S. will soon be a part of this new emerging order.

The similar vaccine pass systems being put in place throughout the world will likely be connected to a global cryptocurrency system. This would provide the foundation for the only approved way to participate in a new economy.

I do think we are getting closer to the beginning of the great tribulation as well. We have seen many of the signs of Matt 24:4-8. Pre-tribulation scholars say the revealing of the antichrist has to be at the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week. This is because their strict dispensationalism causes them to see a 7 year period of time they claim God is dealing exclusively with Israel. There is nothing in the Bible that says the gentile portion of the church cannot be present within a portion of Daniel’s 70th week.

The great tribulation also equated with the Time of Jacob’s Trouble is approx. 3 1/2 years (Dan.7:25, Dan. 12:7, Rev. 11:2, Rev. 13:5). However, it is cut short for the sake of the elect. (Matt 24:22). Then the appointed time of God’s wrath begins at the opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:17).

I view Matt 24:9-14 as analogous to the persecution that comes to the unfaithful/lukewarm church by way of Mystery Babylon (Rev 2:10, Rev 17:6). The remnant of Israel will face persecution from the beast.

The great falling away has occurred in my view and the antichrist will soon be revealed. He could rise to power through the UN. He will sit in God’s temple at the midpoint after the construction is complete. It only takes 1-1.5 years to build the Temple from what I have heard.

Some view this current period close to the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week. Others see it closer to the start of great tribulation. The Lord Jesus is with us in this time of testing.

Good analysis.
Just for the record.....the AC will appear around the time of the rapture. He will be revealed...my KJV says...in the middle of the trib. period when he goes into the temple and declares himself to be God.
His appearance will be gradual as he attains a top leadership role in the world. It appears to me that he is in position now to start the climb to world recognition and dominance. I believe we will see this image appearing very, very soon.

We are in the end times. That said, we do not know how long God's plan will allow continuance of these terrible world conditions before He pulls the curtain on the Bible age, man's day. He is a tolerant loving God and wants as many as possible to read the signs and get prepared.
 
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Oh, they aren't idiots. This is called INTENTIONAL DEMORALIZATION, and we are experiencing it because we are being targeted for destruction and because we refuse to recognize that and push back.
Very good thought.
We must wonder...do these radical left folks know what they are doing...or is it because they do not make themselves aware of God's word/plan and thus are ignorant?
I believe the latter, they could care less and have no interest in God...at all.
 

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Good analysis.
Just for the record.....the AC will appear around the time of the rapture. He will be revealed...my KJV says...in the middle of the trib. period when he goes into the temple and declares himself to be God.
His appearance will be gradual as he attains a top leadership role in the world. It appears to me that he is in position now to start the climb to world recognition and dominance. I believe we will see this image appearing very, very soon.

We are in the end times. That said, we do not know how long God's plan will allow continuance of these terrible world conditions before He pulls the curtain on the Bible age, man's day. He is a tolerant loving God and wants as many as possible to read the signs and get prepared.
Here's question that I'm sure will raise some hackles....

I expect that, given the current democratic leadership, trump will make a huge comeback in 2024 and easily win the presidential race (without needing help from the sycophants he is now putting in place to overturn a loss that won't exist).

Given 2 impeachments that should have knocked him down and out, and what I'm sure will be dismissals of numerous lawsuits by judges he appointed that could have done the same, if he wins in '24 could he be described as one who survived a seemingly fatal blow only to roar back to life?

Given his monumental ego and self-idolatry, I can fully see him marching into the temple and demanding that all worship him.
 
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Here's question that I'm sure will raise some hackles....

I expect that, given the current democratic leadership, trump will make a huge comeback in 2024 and easily win the presidential race (without needing help from the sycophants he is now putting in place to overturn a loss that won't exist).

Given 2 impeachments that should have knocked him down and out, and what I'm sure will be dismissals of numerous lawsuits by judges he appointed that could have done the same, if he wins in '24 could he be described as one who survived a seemingly fatal blow only to roar back to life?

Given his monumental ego and self-idolatry, I can fully see him marching into the temple and demanding that all worship him.
I am glad I'm not the only one contemplating this.

Let me preface this post with some, uh, disclaimers. I hope I am wrong. And I voted TWICE for Trump, once because I thought he was the lesser of two evils (American politics) and then twice because it actually seemed like he was doing some good in the world.

But in many ways, there have been some warning signs. Trump has ties to Scottish Rite Freemasonry. His longtime minister is a high ranking Freemason. In one of Trump's books, he mentions that he has a Kabbalah tutor. Kabbalah is basically Satanic Judaism and it's used by occult practitioners and some of the mystery schools. Trump has said in tweets that he is like the second coming of Jesus Christ. And we all know that Trump is very, very pro-Israel.

Let me say something. I bless God's people and like Paul hope God will revive them spiritually. This is not the same thing as supporting everything (good and bad) that the Israeli STATE does. Look at society in Israel. Are they honoring God? Have they turned from idolatry back to God? No, not really. So saying that a Christian should wholeheartedly support everything Israel does seems to be a flawed argument to me.

I can very easily see Trump being involved in the rebuilding of a Third Temple. I can very easily see him taking part in a dedication ceremony and declaring himself to be god there.

Keep in mind that he has NEVER criticized the vaccines. Keep in mind that he NEVER fully drained the swamp as he promised and that he surrounded himself with the same swamp globalist advisors that have been running this country for decades.

Was Trump REALLY something new and good? Or are we being manipulated again? IS he being set up as the lesser of two evils in order to deceive many when he makes a comeback?

Don't get angry if you like Trump. Simply watch, pray, and stay wary, brothers and sisters!
 
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Here's question that I'm sure will raise some hackles....

I expect that, given the current democratic leadership, trump will make a huge comeback in 2024 and easily win the presidential race (without needing help from the sycophants he is now putting in place to overturn a loss that won't exist).

Given 2 impeachments that should have knocked him down and out, and what I'm sure will be dismissals of numerous lawsuits by judges he appointed that could have done the same, if he wins in '24 could he be described as one who survived a seemingly fatal blow only to roar back to life?

Given his monumental ego and self-idolatry, I can fully see him marching into the temple and demanding that all worship him.

Absolutely not. Trump is a self made person who is very capable at challenges but, he knows God and would not venture in that direction.
Imagine a persona as John F Kennedy + + + that is image drawn from biblical references and the one we must be looking for.
Study scriptures carefully...there is strong, strong indicators that the AC will come from the European union .
Comments are invited.
 
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I am glad I'm not the only one contemplating this.

Let me preface this post with some, uh, disclaimers. I hope I am wrong. And I voted TWICE for Trump, once because I thought he was the lesser of two evils (American politics) and then twice because it actually seemed like he was doing some good in the world.

But in many ways, there have been some warning signs. Trump has ties to Scottish Rite Freemasonry. His longtime minister is a high ranking Freemason. In one of Trump's books, he mentions that he has a Kabbalah tutor. Kabbalah is basically Satanic Judaism and it's used by occult practitioners and some of the mystery schools. Trump has said in tweets that he is like the second coming of Jesus Christ. And we all know that Trump is very, very pro-Israel.

Let me say something. I bless God's people and like Paul hope God will revive them spiritually. This is not the same thing as supporting everything (good and bad) that the Israeli STATE does. Look at society in Israel. Are they honoring God? Have they turned from idolatry back to God? No, not really. So saying that a Christian should wholeheartedly support everything Israel does seems to be a flawed argument to me.

I can very easily see Trump being involved in the rebuilding of a Third Temple. I can very easily see him taking part in a dedication ceremony and declaring himself to be god there.

Keep in mind that he has NEVER criticized the vaccines. Keep in mind that he NEVER fully drained the swamp as he promised and that he surrounded himself with the same swamp globalist advisors that have been running this country for decades.

Was Trump REALLY something new and good? Or are we being manipulated again? IS he being set up as the lesser of two evils in order to deceive many when he makes a comeback?

Don't get angry if you like Trump. Simply watch, pray, and stay wary, brothers and sisters!

President Trump would never parallel himself with God.
He has great general knowledge and knows how to use it to the point of being egotistical happy.
 
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President Trump would never parallel himself with God.
He has great general knowledge and knows how to use it to the point of being egotistical happy.
I really hope you are right, friend. I will say that in the last several speeches of his that I have heard, he has acknowledged God and seems to have a much better understanding of the corruption and situation we are in right now than he did previously. Millions of Christians are praying for the man, and God HAS used him for a lot of good. I also pray God will guide and give him wisdom. But I remain vigilant.
 
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Absolutely not. Trump is a self made person who is very capable at challenges but, he knows God and would not venture in that direction.
Imagine a persona as John F Kennedy + + + that is image drawn from biblical references and the one we must be looking for.
Study scriptures carefully...there is strong, strong indicators that the AC will come from the European union .
Comments are invited.
Your comparison between Trump and JFK is also interesting though. JFK denounced secret societies and their double dealings in one of the last speeches he made before his assassination... but he had a lot of ties to the elites himself. A lot of people think he was one of the Freemasonic elites but dissented with where they wanted to take the world, so they killed him for having ideas of his own.
 

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I am glad I'm not the only one contemplating this.

Let me preface this post with some, uh, disclaimers. I hope I am wrong. And I voted TWICE for Trump, once because I thought he was the lesser of two evils (American politics) and then twice because it actually seemed like he was doing some good in the world.

But in many ways, there have been some warning signs. Trump has ties to Scottish Rite Freemasonry. His longtime minister is a high ranking Freemason. In one of Trump's books, he mentions that he has a Kabbalah tutor. Kabbalah is basically Satanic Judaism and it's used by occult practitioners and some of the mystery schools. Trump has said in tweets that he is like the second coming of Jesus Christ. And we all know that Trump is very, very pro-Israel.

Let me say something. I bless God's people and like Paul hope God will revive them spiritually. This is not the same thing as supporting everything (good and bad) that the Israeli STATE does. Look at society in Israel. Are they honoring God? Have they turned from idolatry back to God? No, not really. So saying that a Christian should wholeheartedly support everything Israel does seems to be a flawed argument to me.

I can very easily see Trump being involved in the rebuilding of a Third Temple. I can very easily see him taking part in a dedication ceremony and declaring himself to be god there.

Keep in mind that he has NEVER criticized the vaccines. Keep in mind that he NEVER fully drained the swamp as he promised and that he surrounded himself with the same swamp globalist advisors that have been running this country for decades.

Was Trump REALLY something new and good? Or are we being manipulated again? IS he being set up as the lesser of two evils in order to deceive many when he makes a comeback?

Don't get angry if you like Trump. Simply watch, pray, and stay wary, brothers and sisters!
You know, making peace with Israel is really a double edged sword. On one hand you want peace in the middle east; but on the other - what does God say about the person who finally achieves it?

Yeah. People are tired of Brandon and his kind, and satan will use Christian's anger over their godlessness to ensure trump and his cronies will win big. he'll bring peace and authorize rebuilding the temple. Then once it's established he'll move in. Then he'll hunt down and jail/kill those who put him in power, which unfortunately will include many of our brothers and sisters who were deceived into backing him. What's worse is many will instead turn away from their faith to avoid it.
 

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Absolutely not. Trump is a self made person who is very capable at challenges but, he knows God and would not venture in that direction.
Imagine a persona as John F Kennedy + + + that is image drawn from biblical references and the one we must be looking for.
Study scriptures carefully...there is strong, strong indicators that the AC will come from the European union .
Comments are invited.
Fair enough, you go look for John I'll keep looking for Jesus. That's Who my study of the scriptures tells me I should be after.
 
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Fair enough, you go look for John I'll keep looking for Jesus. That's Who my study of the scriptures tells me I should be after.
Yes, that's the answer. My brother once said "Trump isn't our Messiah." We like him only insofar as he takes us in the right direction.

Concerning your other post, I agree with 99% of it! The only thing I would mention is that the Bible says that God knows His own and ultimately Jesus Christ isn't going to lose any soul given by the Father into His charge. A Christian who ultimately turns aside from the faith was not a true believer.
 

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Yes, that's the answer. My brother once said "Trump isn't our Messiah." We like him only insofar as he takes us in the right direction.

Concerning your other post, I agree with 99% of it! The only thing I would mention is that the Bible says that God knows His own and ultimately Jesus Christ isn't going to lose any soul given by the Father into His charge. A Christian who ultimately turns aside from the faith was not a true believer.
That's a whole 'nother thread my friend ;) lol
 
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God told us thousands of years ago where this world would end up.

I find it amazing that so many are so surprised to see it actually happening. And that they think we can change it.

All we can do is prepare for what we have also been told comes next.
But, don't you think God epects us to fight for His word and pray for the help to counter it of man? I do...because the Bible says we must pray and ask God for help persistently....without limit.
 
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Yes, that's the answer. My brother once said "Trump isn't our Messiah." We like him only insofar as he takes us in the right direction.

Concerning your other post, I agree with 99% of it! The only thing I would mention is that the Bible says that God knows His own and ultimately Jesus Christ isn't going to lose any soul given by the Father into His charge. A Christian who ultimately turns aside from the faith was not a true believer.
You were good up until the OSAS part. Not so.
We must remember...God said Job was a perfect servant...not a perfect person. There is a big message.
Man can commit and fail....commit and fail....the reason God gave us unlimited forgiveness....by repentance.
 
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You know, making peace with Israel is really a double edged sword. On one hand you want peace in the middle east; but on the other - what does God say about the person who finally achieves it?

Yeah. People are tired of Brandon and his kind, and satan will use Christian's anger over their godlessness to ensure trump and his cronies will win big. he'll bring peace and authorize rebuilding the temple. Then once it's established he'll move in. Then he'll hunt down and jail/kill those who put him in power, which unfortunately will include many of our brothers and sisters who were deceived into backing him. What's worse is many will instead turn away from their faith to avoid it.
A weird conclusion.
 
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You were good up until the OSAS part. Not so.
We must remember...God said Job was a perfect servant...not a perfect person. There is a big message.
Man can commit and fail....commit and fail....the reason God gave us unlimited forgiveness....by repentance.
I think I would say rather that the true believer is one who persists in the faith until the very end. It's an important distinction, I think. I have seen OSAS used to justify living in sin, and I think (infer at least) that this is why you reject it.

But I'll be honest that as an imperfect person myself, my understanding of these things is sometimes imperfect! ;)

Thanks for the comment, brother!
 

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But, don't you think God epects us to fight for His word and pray for the help to counter it of man? I do...because the Bible says we must pray and ask God for help persistently....without limit.
God warned Noah about the flood and told him to build a boat. What if Noah, instead of preparing for the flood like he had been told to, had thought he could do something to avoid it?

Likewise, we have been warned the antichrist is coming and we should prepare for that. So, should we prepare for the antichrist, or should we put our efforts into stopping him from appearing?
 
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I know some Christians who have bowed out from society (no, not to start a cult or something)
but they're just not getting involved with anything or anyone anymore. They want their peace
and quiet, on their stretch of land, some of them off-the-grid, but doing their part in starting
and keeping a job, paying their bills, staying healthy as best they can, casting off TV sets, radios,
but keep cell phone with only telephone access, meaning no cameras, texting or downloading
apps. It also means they pay their taxes like any good citizen, keep their vehicles running as
well as can be, and those with children, they home-school.


You get the idea. They're just tuning out. None of them vote anymore and have to no plans to
vote again. They just accept the idea the Lord places those in authority whom He wants to have.


They have their medical and dental insurance when it's needed. They go to the local library
because they like to read. If they need help, they know how to dial 9-1-1.


I'm talking about Christians with excellent job skills, college and university degrees, smart
looking appearance and general positive demeanor. They're just burnt out......finally.


Theses are believers who came to me asking to help them "disappear"......

All because this nation, this Republic, was found by Geniuses, but is currently run by idiots.