Are curses still relevant to the Christians?

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Nehemiah6 said:
SHORT ANSWER:NO. Christ has removed all curses, by Himself becoming accursed for us while hanging on the cross.

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: (Eph 1:3)

Christians are "in Christ".
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From the study I have made, using multiple sources, you are correct. It is only through Christ that demons can be ejected, they will not listen to anything else.

Once demons have established themselves it is very difficult to get rid of them. The rules the exorcists I have read about all said it takes a team of strong Christians and is dangerous. They spend hours struggling with the demons.

A Christian missionary who worked in South America where there was voodoo told of a team working for about six hours with one lady who was under a curse. They were exhausted when they were finally done.

Demons do not look to see if you are in Christ, they watch to see if you accept a sin as OK. They look at a person's repentance. People who preach against the spirit of the law are very dangerous. To accept sin as perfectly OK opens people to being influenced by demons.
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
Generational, mental illness, undiagnosed sickness, feminine problems related not being able to get pregnant or menstrual issues, rampant divorce, etc. (This list was given by a church we visited)

Are curses still relevant to the Christians? We sometimes hear we can be battling curses that keep us from blessings.

Blessings are Biblical
Curses are Biblical
But in what context do they apply to the Christian today?

I personally do not see much info pertaining to a Christian in the New Testament related to how to defeat curses.
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Depends on what is meant by curses. There is certainly the principle of sowing and reaping. For example, the best way to lose a job is to complain about it constantly. God may well remove his favour and blessing. Then the individual has something else to complain about, unemployment.

Unforgiveness is a major source of blight on a Christian's life. So is unconfessed sin. It's not so much being cursed as it is God's blessing being removed. For sure it can seem as if you are cursed. We need God's blessing in every aspect of life.

Something controversial is the idea of soul prayer. This is when a Christian prays against an individual, contrary to God's will and without using the name of Jesus. I met a woman who asked God to kill her husband because she considered him spiritually inferior. He did indeed die. What I believe happens is that God will not answer such a prayer. However, Satan surely can. If the victim is not alert spiritually, if he does not believe in spiritual warfare, he may suffer in line with the prayer.

Something we pray from time is for God to cause the Destroyer to pass over us, as in Egypt. We plead the blood of Christ over our lives and ask on that basis.
 
Oblio said:
While I was at the retreat, I started practicing Luke 9:23. I was told to take a sin from my confessed list, one at a time, and act like I was actually nailing it to a real cross. As I started doing this, I could actually see a little cross in the spirit realm. I don't know if this sounds weird, but I did this for 20 years whenever some sin came to mind.
Then, in 2020, I became very sensitive to the Lord and all my fear and insecurities that had plagued me my whole life were gone! I'm not afraid to die.
During the summer, I'd stand outside of my townhouse, playing my guitar and praising the Lord. I used to lead worship in church, but now I am free and can praise the Lord anywhere!
In 2004, I had a bad reaction to a medication that put me in a coma. My heart stopped and they couldn't start it again. As they were filling out my time of death, it started again.
Years later, I remembered that while I was dead, I saw Jesus in the New Jerusalem.
This is part of a song I wrote because of this hard time.

Alone in the dark, in pain and afraid,
I'd never felt so ripped apart.
This went on for years, and I ran out of tears
Then Jesus resurrected in my heart.
I died, He lives, and dwells inside of me
I am finally assured of eternity
He never left my side, not even when I died
He was with me in the dark...right by my side!
Faithful is His name! tc
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True Christians do not fear death, rather, we anticipate it. The process of dying will be frightening for some of us, but we'll get through it. Like you, I am not afraid to die. I am 100% assured.
 
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2ndTimothyGroup said:
True Christians do not fear death, rather, we anticipate it. The process of dying will be frightening for some of us, but we'll get through it. Like you, I am not afraid to die. I am 100% assured.
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We'll die and then there will be no more death, no more mourning, no more crying...or pain.
I'm becoming more aware that this life is just the first part of our existence.
"And I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever!" - Psalm 23:6
 
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Oblio said:
One morning, twenty-two years ago, while at a retreat and in my room, I followed instructions we'd been given the day before and prayed to break curses, back four generations on each of my father and my mother's side.
When I broke the last curse on my father's side, it felt like a bucket of spiritual water was dumped on my head. The same thing happened with my mother's side. I lifted my hands and praised the Lord. After being a believer for 27 years, it was then that I received the gift of tongues.
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I'm typically a Thomas in nature. My faith experience has not been what I call the Pentecostal experience. I have not experienced or seen any of this curse breaking. I'll admit I'm skeptical as I can not seem to find it grounded in scripture for a New Testament Christian.
 
I think the scriptural basis is 34:7. There is a book titled, "Blessing Or Curse: You Can Choose," by Derek Prince that I read a long time ago that explains what I'm talking about in detail.
 
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Gideon300 said:
Depends on what is meant by curses. There is certainly the principle of sowing and reaping. For example, the best way to lose a job is to complain about it constantly. God may well remove his favour and blessing. Then the individual has something else to complain about, unemployment.

Unforgiveness is a major source of blight on a Christian's life. So is unconfessed sin. It's not so much being cursed as it is God's blessing being removed. For sure it can seem as if you are cursed. We need God's blessing in every aspect of life.

Something controversial is the idea of soul prayer. This is when a Christian prays against an individual, contrary to God's will and without using the name of Jesus. I met a woman who asked God to kill her husband because she considered him spiritually inferior. He did indeed die. What I believe happens is that God will not answer such a prayer. However, Satan surely can. If the victim is not alert spiritually, if he does not believe in spiritual warfare, he may suffer in line with the prayer.

Something we pray from time is for God to cause the Destroyer to pass over us, as in Egypt. We plead the blood of Christ over our lives and ask on that basis.
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People equate curses to God and evil for example, in the OT


Deuteronomy 11:26-28
New International Version
26 See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse— 27 the blessing if you obey the commands of the Lord your God that I am giving you today; 28 the curse if you disobey the commands of the Lord your God and turn from the way that I command you today by following other gods, which you have not known.

Some blame Demons or Satan but in the OT it seems curses came from disobeying God.

These are supernatural in nature.

As a modern Christian I do not see this type of discipline for a Christian afterall we are redeemed, justified, and there is now no condemnation. It is only a reap and sow response.

Paul was given a thorn in the flesh by Satan, was that a curse?

God allowed it, same with Job.

I also see once you become a Christian, you may still deal with generational problems due to past damage with the genes. Nothing like a curse but simply a byproduct of a fallen world.
 
Blessings and cursings are true or God would of not said so.
As our technology has evolved we see that hereditary deficits can be found in dna structure.
Mental illness, alcoholism, diabetes, cancer ect can be detected and make one more prone.
Spiritual curses spoken hexes are also relavent. Powers of darkness and evil.


Jobs wife....curse God and die.
Paul asked the galatians...who has bewitched you?
The story of baalam.
He who hangs from a tree is cursed.
God cursed the ground in genesis.
Some examples.

I agree not much is known but they do exist. Remembering that God does not use or allow these things to destroy but to redeem is what we must focus on.
Affliction is a purging process that God does use and has in the past.
God controls all things for his glory.
 
pottersclay said:
Blessings and cursings are true or God would of not said so.
As our technology has evolved we see that hereditary deficits can be found in dna structure.
Mental illness, alcoholism, diabetes, cancer ect can be detected and make one more prone.
Spiritual curses spoken hexes are also relavent. Powers of darkness and evil.


Jobs wife....curse God and die.
Paul asked the galatians...who has bewitched you?
The story of baalam.
He who hangs from a tree is cursed.
God cursed the ground in genesis.
Some examples.

I agree not much is known but they do exist. Remembering that God does not use or allow these things to destroy but to redeem is what we must focus on.
Affliction is a purging process that God does use and has in the past.
God controls all things for his glory.
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All of those examples except the galations term bewitched which isn't the same as cursed is found in the OT.

Where in the NT can we argue they still operate in a Christian's life?
 
2ndTimothyGroup said:
No one can. It is impossible to be Pure, Righteous, and Holy yet be cursed.
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We are perfected through Christ and our sins are forgotten.

Anything in the OT that could of led to a curse can now for the Christian who stumbles in their faith will now reap Earhly consequences and a self inflicted damage to the relationship between the believer and God. In this age of grace we see a totally different way to discipline. The Holy Spirit now convicts us as like a conscience that will not allow us to feel okay with any sin.

I believe now we are only attacked by the world and spiritual forces against us but not in us. Satan may have wanted to attack Peter but Jesus prevented it.

We are actually promised this life will be difficult. None of the apostles or early church had it easy and in fact the victory was mostly seen in the Kingdom to come.

The same hardships related to a curse can be misguided to have people think if they are not healed, see prosperity, etc they are not faithful, have the power, or not worthy to defeat the curse.

It sounds like extra theology on top of a simple truth. Just submit to Jesus in all things and you will be okay, spiritually if not physically.
 
Roughsoul1991 said:
I believe now we are only attacked by the world and spiritual forces against us but not in us. Satan may have wanted to attack Peter but Jesus prevented it.
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I hear what you're saying. According to Colossians 2:9-15, Satan is defeated. I could very well be wrong here, for even Paul said that a messenger of Satan was sent to buffet him, but this doesn't mean necessarily an attack or a curse. When the seventy returned from casting out demons and healing, etc., Jesus said that He saw satan falling from the sky like lightening bolts. That's defeat in a person's life.

So, I tend to believe that hardship in life is designed to keep us dependent upon the Lord. We are told that we must Endure, a most Holy Word, so this means that hardship will ensue. But is this Satan or is this God Transforming us . . . Holy Discipline? I would tend to say that God is constantly Disciplining me to keep me humble, quiet, if not "lowly." Why would the Lord do this? I would say that He does so, so that we will focus on how His Grace is sufficient for us. And what is the ultimate sense of Grace? Circumcision of the heart . . . the removal of the Curse of the Lord so that we would be made Right with the Eternal I AM.

2 Corinthians 12:7-9 KJV - "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

Exodus 33:19 KJV - "And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy."

Colossians 2:11, 13 NLT - "When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature." ... 13 "You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins."
 
Oblio said:
Believe what you want.
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We shouldn't believe what we want. We should only believe what is. Perception, life experience, or emotional events can be different but what matters is can something be defended by scripture.

Someone can defend it easily using the Old Testament. But can it be defended under the New Testament, under a new covenant? That is debated.
 
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