Voting is a waste of time

[KrisWampler]

Terrible advice.
We must vote and fight ...or it is over for our democracy.

We are not and never were a democracy. So if this is the end of democracy then great. I doubt it though. Unfortunately.

Also, do you really think you matter to the people who run this country? Let’s see - billion-dollar pharmaceuticals who can compel people to be their customers, lobbyists, military contractors, multinational corporations……and you.

Come on.

 

[KrisWampler]

Biden and many on the left have already painted all MAGA and parents who go to school board meetings as "domestic terrorists" and said that they need to make a list, censor them, deplatform them, fire them, cancel them, etc. They are now moving towards doing that with "the unvaccinated" claiming that they should not be allowed to work, allowed to enter a business, not even allowed to use the hospital.

This is what Bill Maher means when he says you can hate Trump but you can't hate everyone who voted for him. Maher understands that the left is trying to paint half the country as "deplorable" or as Hillary Clinton said "irredeemable".

We need a National divorce. Or a civil war. There’s not enough ballot boxes to work out of this.

 

[PrivateBadge45]

You referred to Biden as the Vegetable-In-Chief. Good one. A local Pastor in my community
called him "The Fraud-In-Chief". He's a very conservative Pastor who voted for Ronald Reagan
twice, and Donald Trump twice. Normally easy-going, he was enraged over the 2020 fraud. He
knew something was very, very wrong the next day. As an investigator, I told him that I found
it very difficult to believe Pro-Trump voters would vote for Republican incumbents or newcomers
in their states, and then NOT vote for President Trump?

Yes. Something was, and still is rotten

 

[Nehemiah6]

Yes. Something was, and still is rotten

What's disappointing and shocking is that even after more than one year, and the collection of tons of evidence for total fraud, no action has been taken to put things right. That is because the courts, the DOJ, the FBI, etc. are all a part of the fraud.

 

[KrisWampler]

You referred to Biden as the Vegetable-In-Chief. Good one. A local Pastor in my community
called him "The Fraud-In-Chief". He's a very conservative Pastor who voted for Ronald Reagan
twice, and Donald Trump twice. Normally easy-going, he was enraged over the 2020 fraud. He
knew something was very, very wrong the next day. As an investigator, I told him that I found
it very difficult to believe Pro-Trump voters would vote for Republican incumbents or newcomers
in their states, and then NOT vote for President Trump?

Yes. Something was, and still is rotten

My favorite thing about all this is how the media constantly, constantly, constantly gaslights and lies about this. "Dats not fraud!" "Orange Man Bad he tell lies!" "Fraud never occurs and if it does it only affects a few votes oh but btw every vote matters teehee."

I completely understand why protesters smashed the media's cameras at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Completely.

 

[JStates]

My favorite thing about all this is how the media constantly, constantly, constantly gaslights and lies about this. "Dats not fraud!" "Orange Man Bad he tell lies!" "Fraud never occurs and if it does it only affects a few votes oh but btw every vote matters teehee."

I completely understand why protesters smashed the media's cameras at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Completely.

Sadly, January 6 was a trap. Known Antifa operatives like John Sullivan and Jade Sackett (who also worked for CNN) were there to incite violence and damage property. Most likely, it was these agent provocateurs who were destroying cameras so there would be no video evidence of their crimes.

Most of the ordinary protesters were peaceful unless provoked and did not damage property. And there was A LOT of provocation. Tear gas. Flashbangs. Police brutality. One woman beaten and crushed to death. Another shot in the head. Police targeting women, children, and the elderly.

Anyways, I'm fully a secessionist now. I'm moving to a free state, where I expect to get involved in a local militia and encourage the state legislature to enact laws that actually protect the People from what's to come.

I already sent an appeal to the governors of virtually every red state asking them for a SAFE (Secure Access to Food and Essentials) Law in their state. The next step for the Luciferians is cutting off the unvaccinated from being able to buy food. It has already happened in some countries and some cities in the US won't let the unvaccinated eat at restaurants.

Eventually the states will wake up and begin going their own way. Some are already refusing to mandate the jab for their National Guard units and are trying to take back control of the state NG. Abbott of Texas just recently told the Texas NG that they answer to the state, NOT the feds. You can see the lines being drawn.

For the record, I'm a secessionist, not a violent revolutionary. I think any state that feels the federal government is not meeting their needs should secede. Oh, and yes, they have the right to do so. The right to self-determination of governance is THE foundational American value. Of course, when the states secede, the federal government is not just going to peacefully let them go.

 

[tourist]

Terrible advice.
We must vote and fight ...or it is over for our democracy.

The USA is a republic and not a democracy.

 

[JStates]

The USA is a republic and not a democracy.

Hmm, maybe that's why our attempts to export "democracy" around the world always fail, lol.

Anyways, democracy is just a code word for the socialism the elites want to force down our throats.

 

[ZNP]

This thread makes some great points. If you can keep the voter turnout below 50% of the registered voters then you are guaranteed to win the election with ballot harvesting and that extra week to get enough extra votes to win. Kudos to all the lazy people out there justifying not voting, it just makes it so much easier to steal the election and as a result you will see the "representatives" will truly ignore Americans, much more than they are doing now.

 

[JStates]

This thread makes some great points. If you can keep the voter turnout below 50% of the registered voters then you are guaranteed to win the election with ballot harvesting and that extra week to get enough extra votes to win. Kudos to all the lazy people out there justifying not voting, it just makes it so much easier to steal the election and as a result you will see the "representatives" will truly ignore Americans, much more than they are doing now.

I remember the first Trump campaign, so many Christians were saying, "Trump's not a moral man, I'm going to sit on the sideline on this one and not even vote." Back then I was telling everyone, "No, you HAVE to vote; if you can't vote FOR someone, then vote AGAINST someone!" Heh.

Now I think the whole voting process is compromised and there's no point. Record turnout in 2020 and the Establishment just stole the whole thing regardless.

All I can promise is that when the time comes, I will either vote or not in accordance with my conscience before God. I think God moved a lot of Christians to stand up and vote in 2016. Maybe He'll change my mind in 2022.

 

[ZNP]

I remember the first Trump campaign, so many Christians were saying, "Trump's not a moral man, I'm going to sit on the sideline on this one and not even vote." Back then I was telling everyone, "No, you HAVE to vote; if you can't vote FOR someone, then vote AGAINST someone!" Heh.

Now I think the whole voting process is compromised and there's no point. Record turnout in 2020 and the Establishment just stole the whole thing regardless.

All I can promise is that when the time comes, I will either vote or not in accordance with my conscience before God. I think God moved a lot of Christians to stand up and vote in 2016. Maybe He'll change my mind in 2022.

If you use your ballot, even if you don't vote for the candidates and instead do a write in vote you prevent the thieves from using it.

 

[PrivateBadge45]

Hmm, maybe that's why our attempts to export "democracy" around the world always fail, lol.

Anyways, democracy is just a code word for the socialism the elites want to force down our throats.

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When you get the chance, go to your public library, or bookstore to find
"The Constitution In Exile" by Judge Andrew Napolitano. When you do,
go directly to Chapter 4 titled: "Dishonest Abe".

His Honor, The Judge goes into detail on how Lincoln not only committed treason
during the War Between The States, and in so doing, violated his oath and bond
of office, ignored federal law and especially ignoring his Constitutionally limited
powers and authority (sound like someone else we know ?) and Lincoln destroyed
the very foundation of our Republic. In other words, our nation ceased to be a Republic
during and following the War. It has NOT been fully restored.

We have been operating illegally as a democracy of the past 157 years counting this year.

Remember, Ben Franklin was approached by someone who asked him:
"Sir, what have you given to us?"

Mr. Franklin replied: "Madam, we have given you a Republic, if you can keep it!"

 

[arthurfleminger]

I agree that voting is a waste of time. You hear the old claptrap that every vote is important and that every vote counts. Maybe if I was the leader of an organization and could influence many others with my vote, say a union leader, woman's movement leader, liberal or conservative leader then I could influence others with the way I vote. But I'm not and don't care to be.

I only have one vote and frankly, my vote has never influenced the outcome of any election that I've voted in. And I do vote in all elections but it is a waste of time.

What are the chances of an election turning out differently because of my one vote? Zero/negative/zilch/nada........

 

[JStates]

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When you get the chance, go to your public library, or bookstore to find
"The Constitution In Exile" by Judge Andrew Napolitano. When you do,
go directly to Chapter 4 titled: "Dishonest Abe".

His Honor, The Judge goes into detail on how Lincoln not only committed treason
during the War Between The States, and in so doing, violated his oath and bond
of office, ignored federal law and especially ignoring his Constitutionally limited
powers and authority (sound like someone else we know ?) and Lincoln destroyed
the very foundation of our Republic. In other words, our nation ceased to be a Republic
during and following the War. It has NOT been fully restored.

We have been operating illegally as a democracy of the past 157 years counting this year.

Remember, Ben Franklin was approached by someone who asked him:
"Sir, what have you given to us?"

Mr. Franklin replied: "Madam, we have given you a Republic, if you can keep it!"


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This is interesting stuff. A lot of historians today say that the question of states' rights was fully settled by the American Civil War. A Supreme Court ruling said states cannot secede, and the war itself ended in that conclusion.

However, I see secession as THE foundational American premise: that a People CAN and OUGHT TO choose their own representative form of government. Secession was how the American colonies BECAME the United States of America, ultimately.

The Supreme Court, as part of the federal government, of course is biased in favor of the federal government and will always take its side. And the American Civil War was simply argument by brute force, the weakest of all arguments.

I still say that the STATES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SECEDE, indeed, the DUTY to do so if the federal government becomes tyrannical.

 

[arthurfleminger]

For those who think their vote is important, ask your self this, "When was the last time any politician asked me for my viewpoints on any important issue or on any issue at all?" No matter what politician gets elected, they don't care about your viewpoint, they don't even know what your viewpoint is. They just try and sell you the fantasy that it is their viewpoint that is correct. And most politicians live in a different world from you and me. They live in a bureaucratic political world divorced from the common people. They don't know or care about you or your life. That's why everyone hates politicians.

 

[lawrence101]

The last time I voted, I helped elect Justin Trudeau. I'm working really hard on forgiving myself...it's not easy! Lol Oh well!

You did ? well i guess yours must have bin the only ligit vote he got, everyone else was throwing rocks at him but that didnt stop him from becoming PM.

 

[Oblio]

You did ? well i guess yours must have bin the only ligit vote he got, everyone else was throwing rocks at him but that didnt stop him from becoming PM.

Why did I ever tell anybody that?

As an official member of the Libertarian Party, I'm revoking your Libertarian Party registration, for voting for Justin Trudeau. lol

How could you? I just don't see how a Libertarian would see any freedom voting for Trudeau. You lean a little Liberalish-Libertarian?

To be honest, I voted for George W., and Donald Trump. My excuse was all the Christian radio stations were saying, how much George W. was Christian, and as far as Trump was concerned, some Libertarian voices were saying, he is the guy. Both were a big disappointment in some ways, but I always thought George W. was hilarious as far as a personality, as Trump did help the economy, Christian rights/views, and cut taxes.

To defend my voting registration, I did vote for Bob Barr, Gary Johnson, and Ron Paul. Ron Paul will always be my favorite politician. I had some serious star struck, when he spoke.

I shouldn't be allowed to vote ever again! Lol

 

[Nehemiah6]

This is what Bill Maher means when he says you can hate Trump but you can't hate everyone who voted for him. Maher understands that the left is trying to paint half the country as "deplorable" or as Hillary Clinton said "irredeemable".

So why hasn't this other half turned the tables on the Leftists? Is it not because the whole Republican party has virtually joined the Leftists? Where is the actual opposition to the destruction of America? Where is the military which is supposed to protect the nation against domestic enemies?

 

[ZNP]

So why hasn't this other half turned the tables on the Leftists? Is it not because the whole Republican party has virtually joined the Leftists? Where is the actual opposition to the destruction of America? Where is the military which is supposed to protect the nation against domestic enemies?

There are two very different approaches, you have the cancel culture on one side, and you have the light that shines in the darkness on the other side. We don't win by cancelling, we win by shining a light and waking people up.

 

[Combanitorics]

Exactly right. I already had guns... I bought a plate carrier and body armor after January 6. I know it's going to come down to a fight between the federal government and the People.

There have actually been TWO civil wars in America: the War of Independence and the American Civil War. To say it couldn't happen again is simply naive and ignorant of the times. As you said, ALL the grievances which preceded BOTH of the previous civil wars are HERE NOW. Not in exactly the same form, but in spirit:

Taxation without representation. Privileged/protected elite ruling class. Corruption in high places. Unreasonable searches, seizures, imposition on one's person. States rights versus federal tyranny. A national sin (abortion). Intolerable acts. And a whole host of other factors which are new to our time and just as grievous. Vaccine mandates. Intentional breakdown of law and order. Unequal application of the law. Satanic cabal in federal government. Myriad sexual sins being pushed by the establishment. Federal cabal feeding racism via critical race theory, etc. Propaganda in entertainment, news media, and education. CIA protecting criminals and pedophiles. Etc. Etc.

Civil Wars are fought between citizens or subjects of the same republic or kingdom over the content of the law or the person of the lawgiver. It's not the same thing as a race war.