The Bible and other gods

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Psalm 82
6 I say, ‘You are gods;
you are all children of the Most High.
7 But you will die like mere mortals
and fall like every other ruler.’”
 
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I find it impossible for someone filled with the Holy spirit to also have Demons attached to them. Light and Darkness do not, nor ever can co-exist together. I wonder if your definition of Demons attaching is more of a reference where you still are vulnerable when temptations face you. If a recovering alcoholic sits in the bar every day, they are only putting them self in position to fail. If a Believer suffers from porn addiction, they need to stop looking at places where porn exists. You are the one who opens these doors. I guarantee that the Holy Spirit is not leading you to do as such. You have to be ignoring God to achieve these others things.
It surprising the number of "Christians" discussing scripture on a forum aren't familiar with scripture......

2 Corinthians 12
7....., I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger from Satan to torment me and keep me from becoming proud.
 

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We agree there is one God in scripture.....don't you believe the scripture that tells you there are other gods?
Scripture does not tell us there are other gods, it teaches man worshipped false god's meaning they worshipped what did not exist.
 
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God Himself tells us there are other gods, and not to worship them

Exodus 20:3
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

NOTE: He, who knows everything, didn't say "false"...you added that
 
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It surprising the number of "Christians" discussing scripture on a forum aren't familiar with scripture......

2 Corinthians 12
7....., I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger from Satan to torment me and keep me from becoming proud.
Not everyone is Paul!

What Paul dealt with is not always going to be what the other 8 billion people deal with.

Paul went to Heaven and then God allowed this to happen to him.

We have never been to Heaven, so we don't face the same issue Paul did.
 

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We agree there is one God in scripture.....don't you believe he scripture that tell you there are other gods?
Uh yeah I believe scripture don’t you think that explains that “ other gods” arent actually gods at all but inventions of rebellious and idolatrous mankind ?

scriptire actually calls Mankind who receives Gods word “ gods” but I think it’s important to make the distinction between God who is one and only

and then Everything that came after mankind became like this

“And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:5-6‬ ‭

people like that make up false dieties because they want to avoid the true one who is holy and who is not like they are

people full of Sexual lust pervert god into something that suits them and tbier desires then they name the phony diety and worship it to Justify thier deeds.

that’s where other gods came from men’s wicked mind and heart
 
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God said this; so you are saying that God is making up false dieties?
 
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I remember that time that God got fed up at the Tower of Babel, and He disinherited all the nations except Israel, and assigned them to bene elohim, sons of God, Angels if you will, to rule over all the nations

Deuteronmy 32
Remember the days of long ago;
think about the generations past.
Ask your father, and he will inform you.
Inquire of your elders, and they will tell you.
8 When the Most High assigned lands to the nations,
when he divided up the human race,
he established the boundaries of the peoples

according to the number in his heavenly court
 
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Here is one of those evil heavenly rulers, gods if you will

'Daniel 10
13 But for twenty-one days the spirit prince[c] of the kingdom of Persia blocked my way. Then Michael, one of the archangels,[d] came to help me, and I left him there with the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia.
 
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Even Paul talks about these other "gods"

Ephesians 6:12
For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.
 

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Even Paul talks about these other "gods"

Ephesians 6:12
For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

See my post #55.
 
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Friendly Fire ! Sorry ! Yes, im new, and the attacks are fast and furious so hit you in my responding; we agree these heavenly beings seeking the worship of men are these other gods ; there is one omnipotent El, and that is YWVH, God, the Big Kahuna

so islam, and hindis, and all the other religions, mormons, scientologists, are all worshippng one of these gods , but not The God of ALL Creation

some people get so offended over this truth and cant admit it....sheesh , christians !
 

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God Himself tells us there are other gods, and not to worship them

Exodus 20:3
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

NOTE: He, who knows everything, didn't say "false"...you added that
Yes, there are other gods in context to a man who created them. God is offended that man would even do such a thing when THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD which we know God has said also. Just because The Lord God says man worships false gods is not meaning God is saying they are real yet man's sin of worshipping them IS.
 
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Yes, there are other gods in context to a man who created them. God is offended that man would even do such a thing when THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD which we know God has said also. Just because The Lord God says man worships false gods is not meaning God is saying they are real yet man's sin of worshipping them IS.
God does say man worship false gods; God says men shall not worship any other gods before him

You are making up the FALSE part; scripture clearly rea=veals other gods, worshipped as gods, forbidden by GOD
 

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God does say man worship false gods; God says men shall not worship any other gods before him

You are making up the FALSE part; scripture clearly rea=veals other gods, worshipped as gods, forbidden by GOD
I am not making anything, yet IF you knew the context of Only One God you would know more of what The One True God was saying. Stop trying to be insulting and rude and have some humility.

Read :Isaiah 44: 6-8

“Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,
And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:
‘I am the First and I am the Last;
Besides Me there is no God.

7 And who can proclaim as I do?
Then let him declare it and set it in order for Me,
Since I appointed the ancient people.
And the things that are coming and shall come,
Let them show these to them.
8 Do not fear, nor be afraid;
Have I not told you from that time, and declared it?
You are My witnesses.
Is there a God besides Me?

Indeed there is no other Rock;
I know not one.’ ”
 
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I am not making anything, yet IF you knew the context of Only One God you would know more of what The One True God was saying. Stop trying to be insulting and rude and have some humility.

Read :Isaiah 44: 6-8

“Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,
And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:
‘I am the First and I am the Last;
Besides Me there is no God.

7 And who can proclaim as I do?
Then let him declare it and set it in order for Me,
Since I appointed the ancient people.
And the things that are coming and shall come,
Let them show these to them.
8 Do not fear, nor be afraid;
Have I not told you from that time, and declared it?
You are My witnesses.
Is there a God besides Me?

Indeed there is no other Rock;
I know not one.’ ”
I humbly ask that you read all my verses in this post where scripture says there are other gods; you know you are playing semantics and its not christlike; people worship them as gods; God refers to them as gods; are they fallen angels, demans, other heavenly host ? Who knows; we only know scripture says there are other gods and it also says there is only on God; inerrant scripture says both things, read properly, with understanding, in context
 

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I humbly ask that you read all my verses in this post where scripture says there are other gods; you know you are playing semantics and its not christlike; people worship them as gods; God refers to them as gods; are they fallen angels, demans, other heavenly host ? Who knows; we only know scripture says there are other gods and it also says there is only on God; inerrant scripture says both things, read properly, with understanding, in context
I did read it, I am not saying you are wrong, what I am saying is from the context of What God said over what God talked about.
an example if I may please?

Idol worship= idolatry = is making something a god that is not GOD. God has said in the text There are no other gods.

Yet God has acknowledged man has made gods and worshiped them as such which HE said man must not do. All created beings like angels, demons, etc, are lower-level spiritual beings. They are not as the Only God who is Sel-existent. It is a man who worshiped them as gods because you will find no other being in the word of God worshiping them but man.

When God says You shall not have any other gods before me the Hebrew tranlation is Do not make for yourself false gods over ME who is The ONly God.
 

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Psalm 82
6 I say, ‘You are gods;
you are all children of the Most High.
7 But you will die like mere mortals
and fall like every other ruler.’”
or google Jesus word 😀

“Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:34-36

God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

….Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭82:1-6, 8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

man was made to be his children and so the word is In The earth redeeming us from death giving us eternal life.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. …In him was life; and the life was the light of men.


(V14)…And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

…That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

…But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1,- 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭

That’s not a human promise it’s supernatural a promise to make us more than we were when we part the flesh of men. There’s promise of glory to come later after this world.

“For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:14-19, 28-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we’re just men but we’re being made into the eternal children of God glorified like Jesus forever Gods children of the gospel promises.

(‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:18-23, 25‬ ‭KJV‬‬)