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kaylagrl

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We are Reborn into The Body of CHRIST ...The Kingdom. What part of that statement sounds like sin is allowed?

What do you think satan is tempting you with? Obviously it is to fall out of The Holy Body ...to ruin your Image ...with some horns.

Does anyone get what it takes to actually hold The Reborn Image that SAVES?

How can JESUS Represent you on The Cross unless you have His Image (Blood)?

Do you want GOD to know you at Judgment or not?

The Garden is the mind ...temptation happens there. GOD Breathed an Image into Adam (us as a baby). sin ruins it, we need The Reborn Image CHRIST Made for us to pass this test.
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So we're back on question one which is...

How is existing sin?

When that is answered we will move to the next one.
 
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kaylagrl said:
So we're back on question one which is...

How is existing sin?

When that is answered we will move to the next one.
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Your animal side is sin.

Romans 5:14
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Ok, I have a question. Where is Thomas today? After the death of Christ Thomas saw Him alive again. And what did he do? He doubted. To this day he is known as "doubting Thomas". Doubt is sin. Why did Jesus not lecture him and tell him he was a lost, horrible sinner?
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Maybe because Jesus pretty much told him to not believe it if someone said they saw Jesus:

Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
 
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I don't think I am, I know I am. Yes, you have to live it, none of us can do so perfectly. That's why the Holy Spirit convicts us.




The only perfectly sinless person to walk this earth was Jesus.





1 John 2: 1 Why is Jesus called our "advocate"??




Explain to me what "sanctification" of the saints means.
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You don't think Adam and Eve were literal?! Were they are fairytale? What do you mean they weren't literal.





Ok, I have a question. Where is Thomas today? After the death of Christ Thomas saw Him alive again. And what did he do? He doubted. To this day he is known as "doubting Thomas". Doubt is sin. Why did Jesus not lecture him and tell him he was a lost, horrible sinner?

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Yes, being born again means you do not live in sin. You don't live a sinful lifestyle. But it does not mean you are perfectly sinless. You aren't, I'm not. Not until we reach heaven.



What does it mean when it says " he that endures till the end will be saved?"
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JESUS Lived His whole Life Sinless ...i've only been doing it for a year or so ...through Him!

Doubt isn't a sin, GOD doesn't get mad if we use our brains ...it's when you buy what satan is selling, that there is a problem.

We endure until physical death ...we already know GOD sees the future and will Elect you at the right time.
 
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You don't think Adam and Eve were literal?! Were they are fairytale? What do you mean they weren't literal.
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When GOD "formed" Adam, He was Forming Adam's Image to be Holy. Adam was taken from dark/chaotic dust and placed in The Garden. It means there could have been other animal humans at the time ...it ruins the evolution argument because there should be ancient human bones that never had the Holy Image (Knowledge/Presence of GOD). If it scares you to think about there being other humans, ask yourself who cain was worried about killing him when he was exiled to nod?

When Adam fell, his image became corrupted for all of man because Adam represented humankind. We are Adam and Eve when we are a dead spirit that isn't Reborn to The Holy Image.

Read 1 Corinthians 15:44-49 again with this post in mind. i think It is saying JESUS is the Last Adam ...in us. "The first man Adam" might be you.
  • 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
  • 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
  • 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
  • 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
  • 48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
  • 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
JESUS Lived His whole Life Sinless ...i've only been doing it for a year or so ...through Him!

Doubt isn't a sin, GOD doesn't get mad if we use our brains ...it's when you buy what satan is selling, that there is a problem.

We endure until physical death ...we already know GOD sees the future and will Elect you at the right time.
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another big fat lie.

every time you say you do not sin, that is what you are doing. lying.

just keep telling lies, and you will see where liars spend eternity.
 
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gb9 said:
another big fat lie.

every time you say you do not sin, that is what you are doing. lying.

just keep telling lies, and you will see where liars spend eternity.
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Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Your animal side is sin.

Romans 5:14
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
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I don't have an animal side, I have a flesh side and a spirit side.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
JESUS Lived His whole Life Sinless ...i've only been doing it for a year or so ...through Him!

Doubt isn't a sin, GOD doesn't get mad if we use our brains ...it's when you buy what satan is selling, that there is a problem.

We endure until physical death ...we already know GOD sees the future and will Elect you at the right time.
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Romans 14:23

But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.
 
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When GOD "formed" Adam, He was Forming Adam's Image to be Holy. Adam was taken from dark/chaotic dust and placed in The Garden. It means there could have been other animal humans at the time ...it ruins the evolution argument because there should be ancient human bones that never had the Holy Image (Knowledge/Presence of GOD). If it scares you to think about there being other humans, ask yourself who cain was worried about killing him when he was exiled to nod?

When Adam fell, his image became corrupted for all of man because Adam represented humankind. We are Adam and Eve when we are a dead spirit that isn't Reborn to The Holy Image.

Read 1 Corinthians 15:44-49 again with this post in mind. i think It is saying JESUS is the Last Adam ...in us. "The first man Adam" might be you.
  • 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
  • 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
  • 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
  • 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
  • 48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
  • 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
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Adam and Eve were the first humans that God created. There were no other humans before them. The first Adam is Adam, the Second is Christ.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Romans 14:23

But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.
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"if they eat" ...that is buying satan's comforting lies.
 
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sin is death, so STOP DOING IT!

James 1:14-15
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
 
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How can any of you read Romans 6 and still think you are allowed to sin? https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rom/6/6-7/s_1052006

Rom 6:1 -2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. ...

Rom 6:6 -7
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Rom 6:11 -13
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
 
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sin is death, so STOP DOING IT!
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No one disagrees with that comment. Let me tell you a story I've told before and get your take on it.

I had a family friend, he owned a restaurant, was a wonderful guy. He was a born again believer. He was always telling people about the Lord at his restaurant. No doubt he was a born again believer. But he had an issue, when he was under stress he would drink. He would get so drunk that his wife would call my father to go to the city, find him and bring him home. He has since passed away. So what is your opinion? Where is he today?
 
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kaylagrl said:
No one disagrees with that comment. Let me tell you a story I've told before and get your take on it.

I had a family friend, he owned a restaurant, was a wonderful guy. He was a born again believer. He was always telling people about the Lord at his restaurant. No doubt he was a born again believer. But he had an issue, when he was under stress he would drink. He would get so drunk that his wife would call my father to go to the city, find him and bring him home. He has since passed away. So what is your opinion? Where is he today?
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You dead spirits never stop looking for excuses. GOD can see into the heart ...He will make the Judgment call.
 
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You dead spirits never stop looking for excuses. GOD can see into the heart ...He will make the Judgment call.
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That isn't an answer to the question. It's rude not to answer the question. Where is my friend today? In your opinion. Or are you saying you cannot know if you are saved.
 
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If GOD Generates what our spirits experience in this test, is sin asking GOD to leave Him out of it causing a dead spirit?

Is it a question of existing as a Child of GOD via the Reborn Kingdom Image versus remaining an animal and being worldly?
 
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Could this be talking about sin? ...obedience.

Luke 9:62
And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.


1 Thess 2:12
That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
If GOD Generates what our spirits experience in this test, is sin asking GOD to leave Him out of it causing a dead spirit?

Is it a question of existing as a Child of GOD via the Reborn Kingdom Image versus remaining an animal and being worldly?
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Not sure if you see this in what your saying but if you think you can "pass a test" then your denying the blood of the Cross. Think about it Jesus is our "savoir" meaning he(his work not ours) saved us on the Cross. Anything short of salvation by the Lord Jesus Christ will leave you searching for what to do(works). This is because you don't believe he saved you on the Cross and so your going down an list of things you can do to "save yourself"(meaning your denying the blood of the Cross and it's salvation).
 
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