Do Jews still believe the Messiah is coming?

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kaylagrl

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Runningman said:
Jews will accept a messiah of their choosing and their messiah will be quintessentially the same of Jesus, but by a different name and character. Effectually, their messiah will be a sacrificial lamb who they believe will permanently take away sin.

Jesus died and rose again then, in like manner, their false messiah will die and rise again.

Revelation 13:3
3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
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Well they will believe the anti-Christ is the messiah, until he slaughters a pig in the synagogue. Then their eyes will be opened, they will realize who Christ really is and will mourn for Him.
 
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kaylagrl

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pittsburghjoe said:
It is clear that you are not Reborn. ...cause if you were ...you would never consider doing a sin just cause you feel like it.
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No it's clear that you have no understanding about what the Word says. Everyone here is lost but you. Sure sign of a heresy. You're not perfectly sinless, you're fooling yourself. You can't good your way into heaven. Like all of us there are times you have to go and repent and our advocate, Jesus. Bad enough to lie, but more dangerous is to lie to yourself. How long have you been a Christian?
 
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kaylagrl

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pittsburghjoe said:
The Remnant was 2,000 years ago.

"blindness in part " means part of the Jews of the day.

All Israel being saved is us ...that are in The Body of CHRIST. JESUS is ISRAEL.

Premills have a big ...big problem if this is saying JESUS is Israel:

Isaiah 49:3
And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.

See the surrounding Scripture to understand that It is.
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Nope! You have your heresies mixed up. We don't replace the Jews. In the OT the church and the Jews are talked about separately. We are grafted in, we don't replace anyone.
 
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kaylagrl said:
No it's clear that you have no understanding about what the Word says. Everyone here is lost but you. Sure sign of a heresy. You're not perfectly sinless, you're fooling yourself. You can't good your way into heaven. Like all of us there are times you have to go and repent and our advocate, Jesus. Bad enough to lie, but more dangerous is to lie to yourself. How long have you been a Christian?
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The excuses never ...ever ...end.

It's always my fault that this is the way GOD wanted this test to play out. DEAL WITH IT.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Nope! You have your heresies mixed up. We don't replace the Jews. In the OT the church and the Jews are talked about separately. We are grafted in, we don't replace anyone.
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Jews today have no way of Atonement or even have a High Priest ...what are we replacing?
 
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kaylagrl

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pittsburghjoe said:
The excuses never ...ever ...end.

It's always my fault that this is the way GOD wanted this test to play out. DEAL WITH IT.
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Nope! No such test. Someone who comes here and is unsaved may believe your foolishness. There is no test. The Word says not to add or take away.
 
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KrisWampler

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kaylagrl said:
In Romans 11...
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That’s limited to the physical restoration of their land. They are not spiritually saved if they reject the Messiah. Unless you believe Christ contradicted Himself when He said “no man” comes to the Father but by Him.
 
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Oblio

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More Jews in Israel came to Christ during the past 20 years than in the prior 2,000 years...30,000! This is an ongoing, increasing phenomenon. An agenda may keep someone from acknowledging this.
 
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kaylagrl

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pittsburghjoe said:
Guess who else is blind?
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Yes, you are. To many heresies to name. And you're mixing them together. Let me guess, you have no regular church that you attend. How long have you been "saved".
 
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Oblio said:
More Jews in Israel came to Christ during the past 20 years than in the prior 2,000 years...30,000! This is an ongoing, increasing phenomenon. An agenda may keep someone from acknowledging this.
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Are you aware GOD now calls that land Sodom and Egypt?

Revelation 11:8
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
 
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KrisWampler

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Oblio said:
More Jews in Israel came to Christ during the past 20 years than in the prior 2,000 years...30,000! This is an ongoing, increasing phenomenon. An agenda may keep someone from acknowledging this.
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Which is awesome. But you’d agree they need to actually accept Christ to be saved right?
 
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kaylagrl

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KrisWampler said:
That’s limited to the physical restoration of their land. They are not spiritually saved if they reject the Messiah. Unless you believe Christ contradicted Himself when He said “no man” comes to the Father but by Him.
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No, it's not the land. Read Romans. No, I don't believe they will be saved any other way than what Romans says.
 
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Oblio

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Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but by Me." It's how I've come to the Father.
It's also how the 30,000 have come to the Father. I think it's awesome!
 
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KrisWampler

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kaylagrl said:
No, it's not the land. Read Romans. No, I don't believe they will be saved any other way than what Romans says.
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This is completely untrue.

Abraham has both spiritual seed and literal seed. Anyone who accepts Christ as their savior can become spiritual heir of the promise of justification (Rom. 4, cf Gen 15) because Christ became the seed of Abraham (Gal. 3:16).

There are also promises to Abraham’s literal, physical descendants that have not yet been fulfilled and are the subject of Rom. 11. God unconditionally promised the land of Palestine forever (Gen. 12, 13, 15, 17). Paul is speaking of the literal descendants of Israel in Romans 9-11. How do I know this? He refers to “my kinsmen according to the flesh, who are Israelites”) (9:3-4) and “Israel” (not merely Jews, indicating the nation state - 10:1). This same NATION will be grafted into the tree such that “all Israel will be saved.”

But the reference to kinsmen in Romans 9 provides the context you excluded. It is a reference to land and nations, not individuals Jews.
 
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Is Premillennialism insulting to CHRIST because it claims He didn't Fulfill everything and isn't a King yet?
 
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kaylagrl said:
Yes, you are. To many heresies to name. And you're mixing them together. Let me guess, you have no regular church that you attend. How long have you been "saved".
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Do you think GOD cares about you going to a building to show off how religious you pretend to be?
 
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kaylagrl said:
Nope! No such test. Someone who comes here and is unsaved may believe your foolishness. There is no test. The Word says not to add or take away.
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no test? What do you think Judgment Day is about?
 
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