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yes everything Jesus preached beginning here is the word of the New Testament that goes with his blood
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
Mark 1:14-15
and it took effect just like you are saying as soon as Jesus shed his blood according to his word the new covenant took effect.
“And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.”
Hebrews 9:15-17
like Moses had done for the Israelites according to the book of the law , and animal blood as a pattern for Christs word his own shed and sprinkled blood
the Old Testament patterns and figures of Christ
“And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basins; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient.
And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.”
Exodus 24:6-8 KJV
we aren’t of that word or that blood we have Jesus word spoken while he lived among men and his blood shed for mankind that’s our covenant.
the new word
“For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:22, 24 KJV
and new blood shed according to his words and all who believe will be saved
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
Mark 1:14-15
and it took effect just like you are saying as soon as Jesus shed his blood according to his word the new covenant took effect.
“And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.”
Hebrews 9:15-17
like Moses had done for the Israelites according to the book of the law , and animal blood as a pattern for Christs word his own shed and sprinkled blood
the Old Testament patterns and figures of Christ
“And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basins; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient.
And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.”
Exodus 24:6-8 KJV
we aren’t of that word or that blood we have Jesus word spoken while he lived among men and his blood shed for mankind that’s our covenant.
the new word
“For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:22, 24 KJV
and new blood shed according to his words and all who believe will be saved
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God is spirit, not a God made of flesh or thoughts that are fleshly. This God of the spirit never, ever, said if you cut foreskin it will give you eternal life. Perhaps the Pharisees thought so, or the congregation of Philadelphia as we are told of in Revelation thought so, but God never said that. Nor did God tell us that even if you eat no food for the stomach from garbage eating animals, then you will be considered spiritually clean.
Those fleshly instructions given in the OT were to guide them to the truth of what living for the Lord was like. They were a schoolmaster explaining spiritual truths. The new covenant took the guides away, it did not change the spiritual covenants we have with the Lord.
If we still read the fleshly commands given in the old testament as something that affects our spirit, then we are denying the Holy Spirit given to all that the new covenant brought about. Through the Holy Spirit we are to understand the difference between earthly commands and spiritual ones, and to understand how the literal could explain the spiritual.
Those fleshly instructions given in the OT were to guide them to the truth of what living for the Lord was like. They were a schoolmaster explaining spiritual truths. The new covenant took the guides away, it did not change the spiritual covenants we have with the Lord.
If we still read the fleshly commands given in the old testament as something that affects our spirit, then we are denying the Holy Spirit given to all that the new covenant brought about. Through the Holy Spirit we are to understand the difference between earthly commands and spiritual ones, and to understand how the literal could explain the spiritual.
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Am I to believe that my Lord means me to think of circumcision without hands that cut skin means some strange idea of destroying something? Or that God does not give us eternal truths we can always depend on never to change?
I must believe in my God as the God scripture tells me he is. A God given qualities from a mind of the flesh is like an idol--not a true God. What he tells us must fit his description in scripture, and one of the major things we are told about God is that he is eternal and does not change. Our interpretations of scripture must fit this description of God, or we are creating a God.
I must believe in my God as the God scripture tells me he is. A God given qualities from a mind of the flesh is like an idol--not a true God. What he tells us must fit his description in scripture, and one of the major things we are told about God is that he is eternal and does not change. Our interpretations of scripture must fit this description of God, or we are creating a God.
Blik, I recall your quoting 2 Pet 1:4. It states that to receive the Divine Nature as the replacement of the Sinful Nature by way of the Spiritual Circumcision of Christ, this is the Holy Operation of Faith that causes one to be Enabled to escape corruption.
Aren't you grateful that you have had the Veil removed so that you can understand the teaching of the Lord? As is with the case with nearly all "christians," no one will be able to understand this core, essential teaching unless that Veil has been lifted.
2 Corinthians 3:7-18 NLT - "The old way, with laws etched in stone, led to death, though it began with such glory that the people of Israel could not bear to look at Moses' face. For his face shone with the glory of God, even though the brightness was already fading away. 8 Shouldn't we expect far greater glory under the new way, now that the Holy Spirit is giving life? 9 If the old way, which brings condemnation, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new way, which makes us right with God! 10 In fact, that first glory was not glorious at all compared with the overwhelming glory of the new way. 11 So if the old way, which has been replaced, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new, which remains forever! 12 Since this new way gives us such confidence, we can be very bold. 13 We are not like Moses, who put a veil over his face so the people of Israel would not see the glory, even though it was destined to fade away. 14 But the people's minds were hardened, and to this day whenever the old covenant is being read, the same veil covers their minds so they cannot understand the truth. And this veil can be removed only by believing in Christ. 15 Yes, even today when they read Moses' writings, their hearts are covered with that veil, and they do not understand. 16 But whenever someone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 For the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord--who is the Spirit--makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image."
What people aren't understanding is that the "Old Way" was a temporary guardian while the Lord placed Israel into that "deep sleep." It protected [them]. But what we call the "New Way" is actually the original "Way" that was instituted in Abraham. The "New Way" has [always] been in effect, and that "New Way" is and always has been, Circumcision of the Heart, hence, the "Mysterious Plan" of the Lord.
Aren't you grateful that you have had the Veil removed so that you can understand the teaching of the Lord? As is with the case with nearly all "christians," no one will be able to understand this core, essential teaching unless that Veil has been lifted.
2 Corinthians 3:7-18 NLT - "The old way, with laws etched in stone, led to death, though it began with such glory that the people of Israel could not bear to look at Moses' face. For his face shone with the glory of God, even though the brightness was already fading away. 8 Shouldn't we expect far greater glory under the new way, now that the Holy Spirit is giving life? 9 If the old way, which brings condemnation, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new way, which makes us right with God! 10 In fact, that first glory was not glorious at all compared with the overwhelming glory of the new way. 11 So if the old way, which has been replaced, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new, which remains forever! 12 Since this new way gives us such confidence, we can be very bold. 13 We are not like Moses, who put a veil over his face so the people of Israel would not see the glory, even though it was destined to fade away. 14 But the people's minds were hardened, and to this day whenever the old covenant is being read, the same veil covers their minds so they cannot understand the truth. And this veil can be removed only by believing in Christ. 15 Yes, even today when they read Moses' writings, their hearts are covered with that veil, and they do not understand. 16 But whenever someone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 For the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord--who is the Spirit--makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image."
What people aren't understanding is that the "Old Way" was a temporary guardian while the Lord placed Israel into that "deep sleep." It protected [them]. But what we call the "New Way" is actually the original "Way" that was instituted in Abraham. The "New Way" has [always] been in effect, and that "New Way" is and always has been, Circumcision of the Heart, hence, the "Mysterious Plan" of the Lord.
@Moses_Young
Hello Sir,
Above, you issued a "surprised" emoji. I just wanted to touch base and ask if you were aware that the Covenant made with Abraham was regarding Spiritual Circumcision? Were you aware that this is what the "New Covenant" is based upon?
No one ever taught me, either. Instead, I had the most remarkable Spiritual experience that set my life on an entirely new path . . . I found that I could no longer live a single day without recalling what had happened to me. From that day forward, my life began to change and there wasn't a thing that I could do about it. So I decided that I needed to read our Holy Bible in a timeline, chronological order so that I could figure out who and what this Power was that nearly killed me. Yes, I found out that it is True, that no one can be within the full presence of the Lord and live through it. God is SO peaceful and SO loving and SO good, that human flesh cannot endure it. So again, I needed to understand what had happened to me by reading His Holy Word.
When I read Ephesians chapters 2 and 3, this is when I discovered that there was/is a "Mysterious Plan" (as the NLT phrases it). When I read those words, that was it . . . I instantly realized that there was so much more to the Bible that I was not aware of . . . and I had to know what that Plan was all about. So eventually, I began reading one of my Bibles and over the course of two complete readings, I highlighted each word and piece of punctuation, separating each thought, idea and concept of the Bible with a different color (see photo below - all 1490 pages look like this). I did my utmost best to try to understand each of those ideas . . . and without reading commentary from "men." I depended upon the Spirit to teach me, and teach me He did.
After thousands of hours of reading and cataloging much of the Bible in an Excel Spreadsheet, I proposed many questions to myself to figure out and eventually arrived at answers for nearly all of them. And of course, as you can imagine, I came to understand that the Mysterious Plan revolves around the shameful word, circumcision. No one talks about it, thus the True Gospel remains hidden even to this day. The word disgusts people; they can't stand it! It repulses them, but incredibly, this is all by design of the Lord. We see it from the very beginning, where Adam covered his "shame" with fig leaves. Noah, he was ashamed of what Ham had done to him. Throughout the Old Testament we see how shameful it is to look up the skirts of men . . . we are ashamed of these things, yet the very Covenant that this thread is about deals exactly with that "shame." The Covenant revolves around that which physical circumcision represents . . . Spiritual Circumcision of the Heart.
Jubilees 7:20 - "And in the twenty-eighth jubilee [1324-1372 A.M.] Noah began to enjoin upon his sons' sons the ordinances and commandments, and all the judgments that he knew, and he exhorted his sons to observe righteousness, and to cover the shame of their flesh, and to bless their Creator, and honour father and mother, and love their neighbour, and guard their souls from fornication and uncleanness and all iniquity."
Exodus 20:26 NLT - "And do not approach my altar by going up steps. If you do, someone might look up under your clothing and see your nakedness."
Habakkuk 2:15 NLT - "What sorrow awaits you who make your neighbors drunk! You force your cup on them so you can gloat over their shameful nakedness."
Genesis 17:10-11, 13-14 KJV - 10 "This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. 11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you." ... 13 "He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. 14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant."
Acts 7:8 KJV - 8 "And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs."
If a person wants to understand what the Bible is about, they must face the word circumcision (as much as it goes against the grain of our hearts). Being ashamed of our "nakedness" isn't simply about being naked, it is about exposing that which is unclean, ugly, and disgusting . . . uncircumcised flesh, which of course, represents the Sinful Nature, the Curse of the Lord.
I hope this makes sense. If not, I understand. But I beg of you to realize that I am at least setting you upon the right path to understanding what our Bible is about. The fulcrum of the Entire Bible hinges upon the most Holy Word, Circumcision.
Hello Sir,
Above, you issued a "surprised" emoji. I just wanted to touch base and ask if you were aware that the Covenant made with Abraham was regarding Spiritual Circumcision? Were you aware that this is what the "New Covenant" is based upon?
No one ever taught me, either. Instead, I had the most remarkable Spiritual experience that set my life on an entirely new path . . . I found that I could no longer live a single day without recalling what had happened to me. From that day forward, my life began to change and there wasn't a thing that I could do about it. So I decided that I needed to read our Holy Bible in a timeline, chronological order so that I could figure out who and what this Power was that nearly killed me. Yes, I found out that it is True, that no one can be within the full presence of the Lord and live through it. God is SO peaceful and SO loving and SO good, that human flesh cannot endure it. So again, I needed to understand what had happened to me by reading His Holy Word.
When I read Ephesians chapters 2 and 3, this is when I discovered that there was/is a "Mysterious Plan" (as the NLT phrases it). When I read those words, that was it . . . I instantly realized that there was so much more to the Bible that I was not aware of . . . and I had to know what that Plan was all about. So eventually, I began reading one of my Bibles and over the course of two complete readings, I highlighted each word and piece of punctuation, separating each thought, idea and concept of the Bible with a different color (see photo below - all 1490 pages look like this). I did my utmost best to try to understand each of those ideas . . . and without reading commentary from "men." I depended upon the Spirit to teach me, and teach me He did.
After thousands of hours of reading and cataloging much of the Bible in an Excel Spreadsheet, I proposed many questions to myself to figure out and eventually arrived at answers for nearly all of them. And of course, as you can imagine, I came to understand that the Mysterious Plan revolves around the shameful word, circumcision. No one talks about it, thus the True Gospel remains hidden even to this day. The word disgusts people; they can't stand it! It repulses them, but incredibly, this is all by design of the Lord. We see it from the very beginning, where Adam covered his "shame" with fig leaves. Noah, he was ashamed of what Ham had done to him. Throughout the Old Testament we see how shameful it is to look up the skirts of men . . . we are ashamed of these things, yet the very Covenant that this thread is about deals exactly with that "shame." The Covenant revolves around that which physical circumcision represents . . . Spiritual Circumcision of the Heart.
Jubilees 7:20 - "And in the twenty-eighth jubilee [1324-1372 A.M.] Noah began to enjoin upon his sons' sons the ordinances and commandments, and all the judgments that he knew, and he exhorted his sons to observe righteousness, and to cover the shame of their flesh, and to bless their Creator, and honour father and mother, and love their neighbour, and guard their souls from fornication and uncleanness and all iniquity."
Exodus 20:26 NLT - "And do not approach my altar by going up steps. If you do, someone might look up under your clothing and see your nakedness."
Habakkuk 2:15 NLT - "What sorrow awaits you who make your neighbors drunk! You force your cup on them so you can gloat over their shameful nakedness."
Genesis 17:10-11, 13-14 KJV - 10 "This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. 11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you." ... 13 "He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. 14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant."
Acts 7:8 KJV - 8 "And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs."
If a person wants to understand what the Bible is about, they must face the word circumcision (as much as it goes against the grain of our hearts). Being ashamed of our "nakedness" isn't simply about being naked, it is about exposing that which is unclean, ugly, and disgusting . . . uncircumcised flesh, which of course, represents the Sinful Nature, the Curse of the Lord.
I hope this makes sense. If not, I understand. But I beg of you to realize that I am at least setting you upon the right path to understanding what our Bible is about. The fulcrum of the Entire Bible hinges upon the most Holy Word, Circumcision.
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Yes, yes, yes I am so grateful for any insight the Lord has given me. The spiritual world the Lord lives in has so many mysteries that our mortal mind simply cannot comprehend.
If I may get personal on a public site, I have been told by doctors that I'll be leaving here within six months. I feel fine, even if my throat makes it hard to eat. I've been given such an exciting, fun life that I even was able to spend seven years on the ocean as a commercial fisherwoman. I've lived here 96 1/2 years, nearly a hundred.
I wish the Lord would let me tell you all about what the trip I am about to take if the doctors are right is like. We are told there are mansions. I know what a fleshly mansion is like but these are spiritual mansions, and I have't a clue.
If I may get personal on a public site, I have been told by doctors that I'll be leaving here within six months. I feel fine, even if my throat makes it hard to eat. I've been given such an exciting, fun life that I even was able to spend seven years on the ocean as a commercial fisherwoman. I've lived here 96 1/2 years, nearly a hundred.
I wish the Lord would let me tell you all about what the trip I am about to take if the doctors are right is like. We are told there are mansions. I know what a fleshly mansion is like but these are spiritual mansions, and I have't a clue.
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Hello, 2nd Timothy Group, sir. When it comes to the covenant God made with Abraham, I thought it centered around this?
Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
My "surprised" emoji was just around your comment - I'm sure it was made in jest, but I don't think anyone does that!
Do you think the word circumcision is shameful? We use it in church fairly regularly. As someone who grew up in the church, I could understand if we considered uncircumcision as a shameful word, as this is often the context/metaphor conveyed by this word in the bible.
Are you talking people in general, or a particular subset or group (e.g. young and unmarried women)? If everyone, I haven't experienced this. Maybe some shy away from using it when talking with those in the world, so it isn't unnecessarily confused with physical circumcision, but otherwise, I think it has a positive connotation, like being healed, cleansed or regenerated.
So what was Eve ashamed of? Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
I agree that physical circumcision represents spiritual circumcision. Recall in Joshua 5:9, where circumcision was reinstituted after 40 years.
And the Lord said unto Joshua, This day have I rolled away the reproach of Egypt from off you. Wherefore the name of the place is called Gilgal unto this day.
Deuteronomy 10:16“Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.”
I'd say the bible is about Christ, who is the propitiation for our sins, to make us right with God. But I agree the understanding of circumcision plays an important part in demonstrating this doctrine.
Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
My "surprised" emoji was just around your comment - I'm sure it was made in jest, but I don't think anyone does that!
Do you think the word circumcision is shameful? We use it in church fairly regularly. As someone who grew up in the church, I could understand if we considered uncircumcision as a shameful word, as this is often the context/metaphor conveyed by this word in the bible.
Are you talking people in general, or a particular subset or group (e.g. young and unmarried women)? If everyone, I haven't experienced this. Maybe some shy away from using it when talking with those in the world, so it isn't unnecessarily confused with physical circumcision, but otherwise, I think it has a positive connotation, like being healed, cleansed or regenerated.
So what was Eve ashamed of? Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
I agree that physical circumcision represents spiritual circumcision. Recall in Joshua 5:9, where circumcision was reinstituted after 40 years.
And the Lord said unto Joshua, This day have I rolled away the reproach of Egypt from off you. Wherefore the name of the place is called Gilgal unto this day.
Deuteronomy 10:16“Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.”
I'd say the bible is about Christ, who is the propitiation for our sins, to make us right with God. But I agree the understanding of circumcision plays an important part in demonstrating this doctrine.
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Knowing how the scriptures support the covenants God has made with certain chosen men at the time of their death opens up a world of knowledge.
Hebrews 9:17 For a will ( covenant ) takes effect only at death, since it is not in force as long as the one who made it is alive.
If you would go back to my first post I said the exodus date was year 2553 from creation. Add scripture 1 Kings 6:1 to the exodus date.
In the four hundred and eightieth year after the people of Israel came out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, which is the second month, he began to build the house of the Lord.
Add exodus date of 2553 + 480 = 3033rd year from creation or 967 BC.
Check any Biblical dictionary or recorded history and they say King David was reigning at 1000 years BC.
More to the point they made a major mistake when they developed our modern day calenders, Time should have been started at the death of Jesus/Yeshua and not his birth. If you are wise you will know what I am suggesting.
Hebrews 9:17 For a will ( covenant ) takes effect only at death, since it is not in force as long as the one who made it is alive.
If you would go back to my first post I said the exodus date was year 2553 from creation. Add scripture 1 Kings 6:1 to the exodus date.
In the four hundred and eightieth year after the people of Israel came out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, which is the second month, he began to build the house of the Lord.
Add exodus date of 2553 + 480 = 3033rd year from creation or 967 BC.
Check any Biblical dictionary or recorded history and they say King David was reigning at 1000 years BC.
More to the point they made a major mistake when they developed our modern day calenders, Time should have been started at the death of Jesus/Yeshua and not his birth. If you are wise you will know what I am suggesting.
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amen yes and once the testator dies the words of his Will and testament can never change
“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
Matthew 24:35 KJV
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:18-20 KJV
“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
Matthew 24:14 KJV
the idea there in Hebrews is like a last Will and testament. Whatever the testator says in his Will is forever once he dies it cannot be amended by anyone else.
once a person passes away the inheritance goes to those he has written in his Will as he has written it , according to any conditions he out upon the inheritance. No one can later change the Will and Testament of the testator
“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
Matthew 24:35 KJV
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:18-20 KJV
“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
Matthew 24:14 KJV
the idea there in Hebrews is like a last Will and testament. Whatever the testator says in his Will is forever once he dies it cannot be amended by anyone else.
once a person passes away the inheritance goes to those he has written in his Will as he has written it , according to any conditions he out upon the inheritance. No one can later change the Will and Testament of the testator
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amen It was always written
“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people. My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
Isaiah 51:4-5 KJV
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.”
John 8:51 KJV
“Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”
Isaiah 55:3 KJV
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
“As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.”
Isaiah 59:21 KJV
“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
John 14:23-26 KJV
“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
1 Peter 1:23-25 KJV
“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
Hebrews 13:8 KJV
“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people. My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
Isaiah 51:4-5 KJV
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.”
John 8:51 KJV
“Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”
Isaiah 55:3 KJV
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
“As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.”
Isaiah 59:21 KJV
“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
John 14:23-26 KJV
“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
1 Peter 1:23-25 KJV
“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
Hebrews 13:8 KJV
Yes, sir. That is the basis of the Covenant, that Christ would redeem Abraham of the Curse of the Lord SO THAT he would believe.
This is essentially what is being said in Deut 30:6. Note the Words and their implications, the Words, "So that"
Deuteronomy 30:6 NLT - "The LORD your God will change your heart and the hearts of all your descendants, so that you will love him with all your heart and soul and so you may live!"
Spiritual Circumcision comes with a Holy Effect, thus a Roman's 12:2 Transformation. Romans 12:2 is the direct result of a Colossians 2:9-15 Spiritual Circumcision.
Nope, but I used to! And, you're very lucky to have found a Church and Pastor that embraces that most Holy Word!
That's a great question! But, it definitely falls in line with why Circumcision is only for men. For Truly, all are to be Circumcised by Christ for the Cleansing that you referenced. Being ashamed of naked bodies, in general, is the result of being Cursed by the Lord, the Law of Sin and Death. And no, this doesn't mean that "nudists" are automatically considered Christians. haha
Wow, Brother! This is a cool, very cool find! I have failed to make this connection, and I mean that I desperately failed. I'll be sure to look at it more deeply and update my "running commentary." Thank you!!
I'm grateful for this exchange of ideas.
This is essentially what is being said in Deut 30:6. Note the Words and their implications, the Words, "So that"
Deuteronomy 30:6 NLT - "The LORD your God will change your heart and the hearts of all your descendants, so that you will love him with all your heart and soul and so you may live!"
Spiritual Circumcision comes with a Holy Effect, thus a Roman's 12:2 Transformation. Romans 12:2 is the direct result of a Colossians 2:9-15 Spiritual Circumcision.
Nope, but I used to! And, you're very lucky to have found a Church and Pastor that embraces that most Holy Word!
That's a great question! But, it definitely falls in line with why Circumcision is only for men. For Truly, all are to be Circumcised by Christ for the Cleansing that you referenced. Being ashamed of naked bodies, in general, is the result of being Cursed by the Lord, the Law of Sin and Death. And no, this doesn't mean that "nudists" are automatically considered Christians. haha
Wow, Brother! This is a cool, very cool find! I have failed to make this connection, and I mean that I desperately failed. I'll be sure to look at it more deeply and update my "running commentary." Thank you!!
I'm grateful for this exchange of ideas.
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Exodus 12:41 And at the end of four hundred and thirty years, on that very day, all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt. 42 It was a night of watching by the Lord, to bring them out of the land of Egypt; so this same night is a night of watching kept to the Lord by all the people of Israel throughout their generations.
Concerning Abraham and the covenant that took place upon his death. Israel left Egypt on Passover exactly 430 years later meant that Abraham died on Passover, because it had to be the self same day.
On the night the lord was arrested didn't it puzzle you that the Lord kept coming back asking his disciples to watch?? It was because of command to watch thought out all their generations!! in Exodus 12;41
Concerning Abraham and the covenant that took place upon his death. Israel left Egypt on Passover exactly 430 years later meant that Abraham died on Passover, because it had to be the self same day.
On the night the lord was arrested didn't it puzzle you that the Lord kept coming back asking his disciples to watch?? It was because of command to watch thought out all their generations!! in Exodus 12;41
My dear Blik . . . your message both shocked me and thrilled me! First, to read that you're 96, causes me to realize that I should have been easier on you in the past, which in turn causes me to realize that I need to be easier on everyone. How am I to do that? I'm not quite sure, but I do apologize if I have ever hurt your feelings in any way. I have to be better. Much respect to you, our fine Elder!
I've thought about you all throughout my day; my mind tends to naturally wander. I realized that I don't actually know anything about the Heavenly Mansions, but I'm sure that you've read of my account of having met the Lord in the Arizona desert. My friend, when I read of the story of Paul on the Damascus Road, I see that he was still able to speak to the Lord, for he knew that he in fact, was dealing with the Lord. He said:
Acts 9:3-5 NLT - "As he was approaching Damascus on this mission, a light from heaven suddenly shone down around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul! Saul! Why are you persecuting me?" 5 "Who are you, lord?" Saul asked. And the voice replied, "I am Jesus, the one you are persecuting!"
Have you noted that he "fell" to the ground? He didn't throw himself nor did he kneel. He fell, as he was powerless against the Lord. However, he was still able to speak, referring to Christ as "Lord." Isn't that amazing? The Power of God is so incredible that we simply cannot contend with it . . . and further, we are able to identify by this Raw, Almighty Power, that it is the source of the One who hath created all things. There is no mistaking this Power. And when a person feels it, again, we KNOW that the source is our Powerful, Almighty God!
I, too, have felt this Power of the Spirit of the Lord, but for me, not only was I immobilized, but I couldn't speak. The Power of God's overwhelming Peace and Love was so physically strong, that I wonderfully gasped for breath. I would have been lucky to have died! So I may not know of these Heavenly Mansions, but I WILL testify that what you are about to receive, should those doctors be correct, you will be so grateful and happy that you finally passed to the other side! You will learn that the moment and process of dying is nothing to be afraid of. It's nothing!
Psalm 116:15 KJV - "Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints."
Ecclesiastes 7:1 KJV - "A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth."
Believe me, these most Holy Words that describe the utter Glories of death are so . . . incredibly . . . 100% True! Do you know why this day will be Precious to your Lord, God? Because He cannot wait to be in your presence. And you . . . you will be floored beyond imagination how good it feels to be finally shed of this world that belongs to Satan. This is a place of corruption, this life in a physical body. Every piece and particle of this fleshly world is nothing compared to the simple Presence of the Lord! The greatest and most rewarding and fulfilling sexual relationship imaginable . . . it is nothing compared to the Peace and Holy Love that I felt that day. And I am certain that the reason for why Paul was so quickly Transformed; and the reason for why He wrote of the most incredible writings this world has ever seen . . . it is because of that Holy Day on the Damascus Road!
Last April I found out that I had prostate cancer. Because of my Powerful Spiritual Experience, I was relieved to hear the news! I was not worried nor concerned about dying; though I must admit that I was sad that I would be taken of this life before I could use the Lord's experience in a way that someone would finally accept (instead of rejecting). Isn't that something?! To hear that I had cancer, this did not frighten me, but it brought relief. To write such words floors even me. Unfortunately, I later found out that virtually no one dies of Prostate Cancer anymore. "They" say that something else will "get me" before that low-level form of cancer. And sure enough, doggone it, my last blood draw showed that my PSA levels were "low-normal." There was no trace of an unhealthy source of Cancer. So, I'm stuck here on this miserable planet filled with miserable, unhappy people, including the billions of "said christians" that are so desperately lost (and don't seem to be waking up to proper Fear of the Lord).
Blik . . . I am jealous of you! While I would never kill myself, I sure am jealous of your Blessed life and what seems to be a near-death. But because of this Power that I have felt but just once, I 100% understand how Paul felt when he wrote:
Philippians 1:23-25 NLT - "I'm torn between two desires: I long to go and be with Christ, which would be far better for me. But for your sake, it is better that I continue to live. Knowing this, I am convinced that I will remain alive so I can continue to help all of you grow and experience the joy of your faith."
What awaits you is the most incredible "thing" imaginable! You will know that to have worried about death, if you ever have, was such a silly thing to do. It is a blessing! From the day we were born, our sole objective was to receive the Circumcision of Christ . . . there is nothing more important than that! The next best thing, for us as individuals, is to wait for our inevitable death. For in that moment of dying, the Lord is there, ready and waiting for us. Can you imagine that?! The Lord is watching you right now; never leaving your presence; always knowing what you think and feel; always knowing exactly where you are, and He WILL be there for you.
We've all heard stories of how some people, just as they're about to die (this happened to my Blessed Grandmother), they look up, hold out their arms and hands and say, "Jesus!" They stare completely wide-eyed into what we see as nothing, but those who are about to die, they [do] see Jesus! And they are in His Presence and they are feeling that wonderful, Glorious, Holy Power that I described above. Regardless of any pain that may have had, they no longer feel it as they reach for Him. They feel amazing! They are literally encapsulated within His Love as though an olive within a martini glass. We are consumed, and you, too, will be consumed by His Holy Power, Peace, and Love.
May these Words grasp your Heart and Soul . . . may they encourage you as you approach your Blessed and Holy Day!
All my Love to you,
David
I've thought about you all throughout my day; my mind tends to naturally wander. I realized that I don't actually know anything about the Heavenly Mansions, but I'm sure that you've read of my account of having met the Lord in the Arizona desert. My friend, when I read of the story of Paul on the Damascus Road, I see that he was still able to speak to the Lord, for he knew that he in fact, was dealing with the Lord. He said:
Acts 9:3-5 NLT - "As he was approaching Damascus on this mission, a light from heaven suddenly shone down around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul! Saul! Why are you persecuting me?" 5 "Who are you, lord?" Saul asked. And the voice replied, "I am Jesus, the one you are persecuting!"
Have you noted that he "fell" to the ground? He didn't throw himself nor did he kneel. He fell, as he was powerless against the Lord. However, he was still able to speak, referring to Christ as "Lord." Isn't that amazing? The Power of God is so incredible that we simply cannot contend with it . . . and further, we are able to identify by this Raw, Almighty Power, that it is the source of the One who hath created all things. There is no mistaking this Power. And when a person feels it, again, we KNOW that the source is our Powerful, Almighty God!
I, too, have felt this Power of the Spirit of the Lord, but for me, not only was I immobilized, but I couldn't speak. The Power of God's overwhelming Peace and Love was so physically strong, that I wonderfully gasped for breath. I would have been lucky to have died! So I may not know of these Heavenly Mansions, but I WILL testify that what you are about to receive, should those doctors be correct, you will be so grateful and happy that you finally passed to the other side! You will learn that the moment and process of dying is nothing to be afraid of. It's nothing!
Psalm 116:15 KJV - "Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints."
Ecclesiastes 7:1 KJV - "A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth."
Believe me, these most Holy Words that describe the utter Glories of death are so . . . incredibly . . . 100% True! Do you know why this day will be Precious to your Lord, God? Because He cannot wait to be in your presence. And you . . . you will be floored beyond imagination how good it feels to be finally shed of this world that belongs to Satan. This is a place of corruption, this life in a physical body. Every piece and particle of this fleshly world is nothing compared to the simple Presence of the Lord! The greatest and most rewarding and fulfilling sexual relationship imaginable . . . it is nothing compared to the Peace and Holy Love that I felt that day. And I am certain that the reason for why Paul was so quickly Transformed; and the reason for why He wrote of the most incredible writings this world has ever seen . . . it is because of that Holy Day on the Damascus Road!
Last April I found out that I had prostate cancer. Because of my Powerful Spiritual Experience, I was relieved to hear the news! I was not worried nor concerned about dying; though I must admit that I was sad that I would be taken of this life before I could use the Lord's experience in a way that someone would finally accept (instead of rejecting). Isn't that something?! To hear that I had cancer, this did not frighten me, but it brought relief. To write such words floors even me. Unfortunately, I later found out that virtually no one dies of Prostate Cancer anymore. "They" say that something else will "get me" before that low-level form of cancer. And sure enough, doggone it, my last blood draw showed that my PSA levels were "low-normal." There was no trace of an unhealthy source of Cancer. So, I'm stuck here on this miserable planet filled with miserable, unhappy people, including the billions of "said christians" that are so desperately lost (and don't seem to be waking up to proper Fear of the Lord).
Blik . . . I am jealous of you! While I would never kill myself, I sure am jealous of your Blessed life and what seems to be a near-death. But because of this Power that I have felt but just once, I 100% understand how Paul felt when he wrote:
Philippians 1:23-25 NLT - "I'm torn between two desires: I long to go and be with Christ, which would be far better for me. But for your sake, it is better that I continue to live. Knowing this, I am convinced that I will remain alive so I can continue to help all of you grow and experience the joy of your faith."
What awaits you is the most incredible "thing" imaginable! You will know that to have worried about death, if you ever have, was such a silly thing to do. It is a blessing! From the day we were born, our sole objective was to receive the Circumcision of Christ . . . there is nothing more important than that! The next best thing, for us as individuals, is to wait for our inevitable death. For in that moment of dying, the Lord is there, ready and waiting for us. Can you imagine that?! The Lord is watching you right now; never leaving your presence; always knowing what you think and feel; always knowing exactly where you are, and He WILL be there for you.
We've all heard stories of how some people, just as they're about to die (this happened to my Blessed Grandmother), they look up, hold out their arms and hands and say, "Jesus!" They stare completely wide-eyed into what we see as nothing, but those who are about to die, they [do] see Jesus! And they are in His Presence and they are feeling that wonderful, Glorious, Holy Power that I described above. Regardless of any pain that may have had, they no longer feel it as they reach for Him. They feel amazing! They are literally encapsulated within His Love as though an olive within a martini glass. We are consumed, and you, too, will be consumed by His Holy Power, Peace, and Love.
May these Words grasp your Heart and Soul . . . may they encourage you as you approach your Blessed and Holy Day!
All my Love to you,
David