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Just because the KJV translated wrongly and used the word "hell" for Hades (as well as for Gehenna and Tartarus, thus causing a lot of confusion) does not mean that Copeland (or any preacher) does not have the duty to properly study the difference between Hades and Gehenna. Copeland was totally incorrect in his false teaching.
Christ DID NOT suffer in Hades. Indeed He had already completed His sufferings (including the agonies of the Second Death) and sacrifice on the cross. When He said "It is finished" it was a proclamation of victory. So when He went to "preach" (proclaim) to the spirits in prison in Hades, He was proclaiming His victory over sin, death, Hades, Hell, and Satan.
No one has gone to Gehenna -- the Lake of Fire -- as yet. It was prepared for the devil and his angels, and at a future time -- after the Second Coming of Christ and after the Millennium -- Satan will indeed be cast into the Lake of Fire (along with the Antichrist, the False Prophet, and all the evil angels).
Christ DID NOT suffer in Hades. Indeed He had already completed His sufferings (including the agonies of the Second Death) and sacrifice on the cross. When He said "It is finished" it was a proclamation of victory. So when He went to "preach" (proclaim) to the spirits in prison in Hades, He was proclaiming His victory over sin, death, Hades, Hell, and Satan.
No one has gone to Gehenna -- the Lake of Fire -- as yet. It was prepared for the devil and his angels, and at a future time -- after the Second Coming of Christ and after the Millennium -- Satan will indeed be cast into the Lake of Fire (along with the Antichrist, the False Prophet, and all the evil angels).
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The ending of Scripture does not mean perfection, that is lack of understanding.
Jesus said, be ye Perfect!
We cannot be perfect in our flesh body, but we [[will be]] Perfect at our Resurrection and transformation into our Heavenly Body!
Until then, Knowledge is more evident than ever before.
Prophecies that are unfulfilled will still be fulfilled like the Second Coming, Armageddon, GWTJ, Eternity.
And Tongues won't Cease until the Perfection takes place.
Jesus said, be ye Perfect!
We cannot be perfect in our flesh body, but we [[will be]] Perfect at our Resurrection and transformation into our Heavenly Body!
Until then, Knowledge is more evident than ever before.
Prophecies that are unfulfilled will still be fulfilled like the Second Coming, Armageddon, GWTJ, Eternity.
And Tongues won't Cease until the Perfection takes place.
The Inspired Order of the Bible - Bellevue University's ...
http://jpatton.bellevue.edu › inspired
Of a truth once a tradition becomes established, it is difficult to change. Yet Jerome knew better. He had a rationale, a wrong rationale, for making these ...
In A.D. 391 Jerome said the following, “As, then, there are twenty-two elementary characters by means of which we write in Hebrew … so we reckon twenty-two books, by which, as by the alphabet of the doctrine of God, a righteous man is instructed…” 1 Yes, Jerome understood that the Hebrew Old Testament contained 22 books coinciding with the 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet, not 39. And to this day the Jewish translations contain 22 Old Testament books. The books and arrangement or order of the books has never been lost. Even Josephus, in Book 1, Section 8 of his famous work, Antiquities of the Jews, recognized “only 22 books.”
Concerning the New Testament, E.W. Bullinger in his Companion Bible made this bold statement: “Our English Bibles follow the order as given in the Latin Vulgate. This order, therefore, depends on the arbitrary judgment of one man, Jerome. All theories based on this order rest on human authority, and are thus without any true foundation.” 2 Dr. Bullinger has hit the nail on the head!
The scholar, now deceased, who has done the most research, in the author’s assessment, on the issue of Bible book order, is Earnest Martin. His 1994 book entitled, Restoring the Original Bible, is the most systemic, documented, referenced and scholarly work on the Inspired Order of the Bible. It’s available for $24 from his Web site: http://www.askelm.com.
The Order should be: 49 Inspired Books, not 66 [the number of Man]
Table 1
Inspired Order of the Old Testament:
Table 2
Inspired Order of the New Testament:
Christ Himself gives us the Correct Order the Old Testament should follow in Luke 24:44
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
It should read like the Tanakh:
Law
Prophets
Psalms/Writings
But ROMAN Catholic Jerome flip flopped Law and Psalms
So, anyone thinking the Latin Vulgate and the English Bibles are legit According to God, are being FOOLED!
Should be 49 Inspired Books and the Order should be Law/Prophets/Psalms-Writings + New Testament is out of Order as well!
This is how and why I know you have NO CLUE when you claim Pre-Trib Rapture!!
How TERRIBLE is it that Jerome did not even Follow Jesus' Own Correct Order in Luke 24:44?
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Law
Prophets
Psalms/Writings
To purposefully not follow God's Order is Rebellion, the same as Witchcraft!
Plus, he admits there's only 22 O.T. Books and then creates 39 Books!
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http://jpatton.bellevue.edu › inspired
Of a truth once a tradition becomes established, it is difficult to change. Yet Jerome knew better. He had a rationale, a wrong rationale, for making these ...
In A.D. 391 Jerome said the following, “As, then, there are twenty-two elementary characters by means of which we write in Hebrew … so we reckon twenty-two books, by which, as by the alphabet of the doctrine of God, a righteous man is instructed…” 1 Yes, Jerome understood that the Hebrew Old Testament contained 22 books coinciding with the 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet, not 39. And to this day the Jewish translations contain 22 Old Testament books. The books and arrangement or order of the books has never been lost. Even Josephus, in Book 1, Section 8 of his famous work, Antiquities of the Jews, recognized “only 22 books.”
Concerning the New Testament, E.W. Bullinger in his Companion Bible made this bold statement: “Our English Bibles follow the order as given in the Latin Vulgate. This order, therefore, depends on the arbitrary judgment of one man, Jerome. All theories based on this order rest on human authority, and are thus without any true foundation.” 2 Dr. Bullinger has hit the nail on the head!
The scholar, now deceased, who has done the most research, in the author’s assessment, on the issue of Bible book order, is Earnest Martin. His 1994 book entitled, Restoring the Original Bible, is the most systemic, documented, referenced and scholarly work on the Inspired Order of the Bible. It’s available for $24 from his Web site: http://www.askelm.com.
The Order should be: 49 Inspired Books, not 66 [the number of Man]
Table 1
Inspired Order of the Old Testament:
Table 2
Inspired Order of the New Testament:
Christ Himself gives us the Correct Order the Old Testament should follow in Luke 24:44
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
It should read like the Tanakh:
Law
Prophets
Psalms/Writings
But ROMAN Catholic Jerome flip flopped Law and Psalms
So, anyone thinking the Latin Vulgate and the English Bibles are legit According to God, are being FOOLED!
Should be 49 Inspired Books and the Order should be Law/Prophets/Psalms-Writings + New Testament is out of Order as well!
This is how and why I know you have NO CLUE when you claim Pre-Trib Rapture!!
How TERRIBLE is it that Jerome did not even Follow Jesus' Own Correct Order in Luke 24:44?
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Law
Prophets
Psalms/Writings
To purposefully not follow God's Order is Rebellion, the same as Witchcraft!
Plus, he admits there's only 22 O.T. Books and then creates 39 Books!
REPLY
The only reason we have 66 books is because the 24 books of the Hebrew Tanakh have become 39 books in our OT. But they are all identical. However, Christians have accepted our Bible as complete and perfect since the second century. So if you are the odd man out, you need to examine your own nonsensical ideas. Not claim that the Bible is not perfect and complete (which ignores the fact that God has had His hand over His own Word). 24 +27 = 51 not 49.
If I may interject here.......
After Christ death,burial,and resurrection and after having been seen for forty days Jesus ascended and sits at the father's right hand( which is the hand of authority.
I do understand for about 300 years believers followed what Jesus and the Apostles had to say about salvation and how to grow spiritually to walk in the way of Christ.
I also understand that the KJV is a book commissioned by King James and transcribed by many men in much later years .It is the one I use bc I like the old English. I will concede that it may have errors attributed to man's interpretations.
I also believe that holy men were inspired by the Spirit to pen what God had to reveal unto men. The word is living and sharper than any two edged sword,but it must have Spirit led revelations for a believer to follow.
That being said,doctrines that are Holy Ghost inspired are found in its pages and NOT in the thoughts of man's interpretations. No person has the right to their own interpretation to expound it as GODS TRUTH. It can be personal!
Strange doctrines that have crept in have gone BEYOND what God instructs as SOUND doctrine.
The salvation issue should be the same across the board but isn't. When people only think they have to REPENT ONCE and then they are above all sin is erroneous. If we SIN we have an advocate to the father in Jesus but we must repent of that sin for forgiveness. Our slate IS NOT FOREVER wiped clean at our new birth.
It is a growth and sanctification PROCESS that comes by being led of the Spirit to see how the Lord directs our paths. Not down a primrose lane where all will be without trials,tribulations and persecutions!
I have see much heretical and false teachings in my year here and it overwhelms my heart. I have found those to rejoice with in the truth also.
May God cause the scales to drop from all our eyes that seek the truth and prevent deception from entering our hearts.
After Christ death,burial,and resurrection and after having been seen for forty days Jesus ascended and sits at the father's right hand( which is the hand of authority.
I do understand for about 300 years believers followed what Jesus and the Apostles had to say about salvation and how to grow spiritually to walk in the way of Christ.
I also understand that the KJV is a book commissioned by King James and transcribed by many men in much later years .It is the one I use bc I like the old English. I will concede that it may have errors attributed to man's interpretations.
I also believe that holy men were inspired by the Spirit to pen what God had to reveal unto men. The word is living and sharper than any two edged sword,but it must have Spirit led revelations for a believer to follow.
That being said,doctrines that are Holy Ghost inspired are found in its pages and NOT in the thoughts of man's interpretations. No person has the right to their own interpretation to expound it as GODS TRUTH. It can be personal!
Strange doctrines that have crept in have gone BEYOND what God instructs as SOUND doctrine.
The salvation issue should be the same across the board but isn't. When people only think they have to REPENT ONCE and then they are above all sin is erroneous. If we SIN we have an advocate to the father in Jesus but we must repent of that sin for forgiveness. Our slate IS NOT FOREVER wiped clean at our new birth.
It is a growth and sanctification PROCESS that comes by being led of the Spirit to see how the Lord directs our paths. Not down a primrose lane where all will be without trials,tribulations and persecutions!
I have see much heretical and false teachings in my year here and it overwhelms my heart. I have found those to rejoice with in the truth also.
May God cause the scales to drop from all our eyes that seek the truth and prevent deception from entering our hearts.
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Jesus believed that there were 24 books in the Old Testament, since He give His stamp of approval to the existing three major divisions of the Tanakh -- the Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms. Those books and those three divisions have been in place since before Christ. So how did you come up with 22 books out of thin air?
Here are the books in the Hebrew Bible:
THE LAW (TORAH):
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy
Total: 5 books
THE PROPHETS (NEVIIM):
The Former Prophets: Joshua, Judges, Samuel (1 book), Kings (1 book)
The Latter Prophets: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel
The Twelve (Minor Prophets) -- 1 book
Total: 8 books
THE PSALMS (WRITINGS) (KETUVIM)
Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Daniel, Ezra-Nehemiah (1 book), Chronicles (1 book)
Total: 11 books
Here are the books in the Hebrew Bible:
THE LAW (TORAH):
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy
Total: 5 books
THE PROPHETS (NEVIIM):
The Former Prophets: Joshua, Judges, Samuel (1 book), Kings (1 book)
The Latter Prophets: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel
The Twelve (Minor Prophets) -- 1 book
Total: 8 books
THE PSALMS (WRITINGS) (KETUVIM)
Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Daniel, Ezra-Nehemiah (1 book), Chronicles (1 book)
Total: 11 books
We have but twenty-two [books] containing the history of all time, books that are justly believed in; and of these, five are the books of Moses, which comprise the law and earliest traditions from the creation of mankind down to his death. From the death of Moses to the reign of Artaxerxes, King of Persia, the successor of Xerxes, the prophets who succeeded Moses wrote the history of the events that occurred in their own time, in thirteen books. The remaining four documents comprise hymns to God and practical precepts to men (Vol. I, in Josephus, Complete Works).
five are the books of Moses
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the prophets who succeeded Moses wrote the history of the events that occurred in their own time, in thirteen books
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The remaining four documents comprise hymns to God
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We have but twenty-two [books]
five are the books of Moses
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the prophets who succeeded Moses wrote the history of the events that occurred in their own time, in thirteen books
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The remaining four documents comprise hymns to God
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We have but twenty-two [books]
A person can be justified through faith in the blood of Christ, and in that they are forgiven (of past, present, and future sins) through faith alone (the slate wiped clean), regardless of sanctification.
But a person can also receive a "second benefit" (2 Corinthians 1:15) which is being "sanctified wholly" (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv)), or "perfected for ever" (Hebrews 10:14 (kjv)) so that the born again believer "cannot sin" (1 John 3:9).
When this occurs, I believe that it occurs because the person has been granted real repentance;
And not only does that person have a clean slate, but they will be writing nothing new on that slate in the manner of sins committed after having the slate wiped clean.
But a person can also receive a "second benefit" (2 Corinthians 1:15) which is being "sanctified wholly" (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv)), or "perfected for ever" (Hebrews 10:14 (kjv)) so that the born again believer "cannot sin" (1 John 3:9).
When this occurs, I believe that it occurs because the person has been granted real repentance;
And not only does that person have a clean slate, but they will be writing nothing new on that slate in the manner of sins committed after having the slate wiped clean.
Rev.2:6 But thou hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans,which I also hate.
Here we see Jesus addressed the church at Ephesus speaking pride at the fact they also hated the deeds of the Nicolaitans. Hate,not dislike but hated the deeds and doctrines.
Where did these deeds and doctrines come from?
Nicolas was a proselyte of Antioch ,Acts 6:5,who was chosen as one of the first deacons of the church.
Proselyte is someone raised one way but converts easily to another religion. The fact is Nicolas was a pagan and immersed in the activities of the occult. Ephesus and Pergamos both had paganism and occultism.
Pergamos was the most wicked in ancient history and persecuted believers relentlessly.
The doctrine of the Nicolaitans was that IT WAS ALRIGHT TO HAVE ONE FOOT IN BOTH WORLDS ,and that one needn't be so strict about seperation from the world.
Because he was a free thinker and didn'tind jumping into other religions having grown upon in a perverted spiritual environment of occultism and paganism gave him a wrong perception and a VERY LIBERAL viewpoint.
The evil fruit of Nicolas' doctrine encouraged worldly participation.
This same spirit and evil doctrine permeates the church today with telling people that their sin is ok,Jesus loves you. He doesn't condemn you bc your trans,queer,lesbian or whatever title perversion takes today..Rev 2 continues to talk about this evil deception and how Jesus HATED it.
It is rampant in these last days. Be saved you don't have to change,just claim it!
Here we see Jesus addressed the church at Ephesus speaking pride at the fact they also hated the deeds of the Nicolaitans. Hate,not dislike but hated the deeds and doctrines.
Where did these deeds and doctrines come from?
Nicolas was a proselyte of Antioch ,Acts 6:5,who was chosen as one of the first deacons of the church.
Proselyte is someone raised one way but converts easily to another religion. The fact is Nicolas was a pagan and immersed in the activities of the occult. Ephesus and Pergamos both had paganism and occultism.
Pergamos was the most wicked in ancient history and persecuted believers relentlessly.
The doctrine of the Nicolaitans was that IT WAS ALRIGHT TO HAVE ONE FOOT IN BOTH WORLDS ,and that one needn't be so strict about seperation from the world.
Because he was a free thinker and didn'tind jumping into other religions having grown upon in a perverted spiritual environment of occultism and paganism gave him a wrong perception and a VERY LIBERAL viewpoint.
The evil fruit of Nicolas' doctrine encouraged worldly participation.
This same spirit and evil doctrine permeates the church today with telling people that their sin is ok,Jesus loves you. He doesn't condemn you bc your trans,queer,lesbian or whatever title perversion takes today..Rev 2 continues to talk about this evil deception and how Jesus HATED it.
It is rampant in these last days. Be saved you don't have to change,just claim it!
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I ran across this quote from Bill Hamon, another so-called apostle. Hamon is in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and is a member in the International Coalition of Apostolic Leaders. I'll post his quote then comment.
There are a couple of clear distortions of the truth in this short passage; distortions that have significant impact.
First, in Hamons mind, apostles can be men or women.
Second, notice what he says about Jesus. "Jesus the Apostle." Jesus is relegated from divine Son of God to just an ordinary man with divine gifts of the Spirit. This is what the NAR teaches; that is, Jesus was no different than you or me and His divine abilities came through gifts of the Spirit. The reason they do this is so they can say: "We're no different, just human beings, but by the gifts of the Spirit we can be everything Christ was, and more.
A preview of Hamon's book can be seen here: https://www.google.com/books/editio...rist+the+apostle"&pg=PA55&printsec=frontcover
I sincerely hope people are starting to recognize what kind of wolves these people really are.
"First of all, who is an apostle and what is his or her ministry? An apostle is just a person who has been divinely gifted with the nature and ability of Christ the Apostle."—Bill Hamon, Apostles Prophets and the Coming Moves of God, pg.55
There are a couple of clear distortions of the truth in this short passage; distortions that have significant impact.
First, in Hamons mind, apostles can be men or women.
Second, notice what he says about Jesus. "Jesus the Apostle." Jesus is relegated from divine Son of God to just an ordinary man with divine gifts of the Spirit. This is what the NAR teaches; that is, Jesus was no different than you or me and His divine abilities came through gifts of the Spirit. The reason they do this is so they can say: "We're no different, just human beings, but by the gifts of the Spirit we can be everything Christ was, and more.
A preview of Hamon's book can be seen here: https://www.google.com/books/editio...rist+the+apostle"&pg=PA55&printsec=frontcover
I sincerely hope people are starting to recognize what kind of wolves these people really are.