Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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In brief there are 12 prophecies that he brings out that point to 2021 being the pre-tribulation rapture with the Tribulation beginning in 2022.

1. Fig Tree Prophecy -- everything is fulfilled by 2028, so the 7 year tribulation begins 2022.

2. Abomination timeline refers to the prophecy in Daniel. If the days equal years this leads to the building of Mosque on the Dome of the Rock and then from there to 2021 (which ends April 2nd).

3. Daniel's weeks refer to the prophecy that exactly tells us when the Lord would come and be crucified the first time. Apparently the exact same formula can be applied to an event that took place less than 500 years ago and leads us to 2021.

4. It is 2520 prophetic years (360 days per year) from the decree to rebuild the Temple to 2021.

5. Hosea says after 2 days He will revive us and on the third day He will raise us up. There has been careful calculation that the crucifixion was in 28 AD, which would suggest all things are fulfilled in 2028 and the Millenial reign begins after that.

6. We know that 1917 and 1967 were jubilee years based on a prophecy from a Rabbi hundreds of years ago. Therefore 2017 was also a jubilee year. Then the prophecy concerning the fig tree that they would give it four years to give fruit before he tears it down indicates that 2021 is the deadline and by the Jewish calendar 2021 ends April 2nd.

7. The Revelation 12 sign Sept 23, 2017 is also a major sign, it took place on the first day of awe. There are 10 days of awe before the day of atonement. This would make 2021 the fourth day of awe, if the 70th week is seven years with the last year being the day of atonement then the tribulation must begin in 2022.

8. Prior to the Revelation 12 sign we had 4 blood moons that took place on Jewish holy days, we had a comet ISon show up in the heavens during the entire 8 days of Hanukkah in 2012, we had a remarkable Solar eclipse that went over 7 cities named "Salem" in the US, etc., etc. I cannot go over all the various signs because they are extremely numerous. (Genesis 1, Joel, Luke, Acts and Revelation all say there will be signs in the heavens before the great and notable day).

9. We had the sign of Jonah, 7 months ago we had a man swallowed by a whale and at the same time a boy named Jonah is pulled from the rubble after surfside building collapse. The Lord prophesied that this would be the only sign given to the adulterous generation and this man who was swallowed by the whale did go on all their talk shows.

10. We also had the street protests all over the US. Jonah was not simply about a man swallowed by a great fish but also about 40 days of street protests.

11. chapter 1 of Joel describes a global shutdown of the economy never before seen that brings people to poverty and this is not due to drought or flood but rather a plague of insect like creatures that swarm and devour. Chapter two sounds the trumpet as an alarm saying the day of the Lord cometh and is nigh at hand then it describes this plague of "insect" like creatures turning the land to a desolate wilderness. They can get into any house, past any window, we have no weapon against them, and they all march in a line without pushing on anyone like watching people lined up in social distancing entering a grocery store. He says this is focused on the pastors and priests. The churches are shut down, the offerings cease, and the Lord is declaring a fast, a solemn gathering for us to repent and call out to Him for mercy. Meanwhile He tells the faithful worshippers of the Lord to fear not and this is where we learn He will pour out His spirit on all flesh and you will dream dreams and have visions.

12. your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions — this is in Joel at the same time as a worldwide pandemic which shuts down the global economy and shuts down churches.
 

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In brief there are 12 prophecies that he brings out that point to 2021 being the pre-tribulation rapture with the Tribulation beginning in 2022.

1. Fig Tree Prophecy -- everything is fulfilled by 2028, so the 7 year tribulation begins 2022.

2. Abomination timeline refers to the prophecy in Daniel. If the days equal years this leads to the building of Mosque on the Dome of the Rock and then from there to 2021 (which ends April 2nd).

3. Daniel's weeks refer to the prophecy that exactly tells us when the Lord would come and be crucified the first time. Apparently the exact same formula can be applied to an event that took place less than 500 years ago and leads us to 2021.

4. It is 2520 prophetic years (360 days per year) from the decree to rebuild the Temple to 2021.

5. Hosea says after 2 days He will revive us and on the third day He will raise us up. There has been careful calculation that the crucifixion was in 28 AD, which would suggest all things are fulfilled in 2028 and the Millenial reign begins after that.

6. We know that 1917 and 1967 were jubilee years based on a prophecy from a Rabbi hundreds of years ago. Therefore 2017 was also a jubilee year. Then the prophecy concerning the fig tree that they would give it four years to give fruit before he tears it down indicates that 2021 is the deadline and by the Jewish calendar 2021 ends April 2nd.

7. The Revelation 12 sign Sept 23, 2017 is also a major sign, it took place on the first day of awe. There are 10 days of awe before the day of atonement. This would make 2021 the fourth day of awe, if the 70th week is seven years with the last year being the day of atonement then the tribulation must begin in 2022.

8. Prior to the Revelation 12 sign we had 4 blood moons that took place on Jewish holy days, we had a comet ISon show up in the heavens during the entire 8 days of Hanukkah in 2012, we had a remarkable Solar eclipse that went over 7 cities named "Salem" in the US, etc., etc. I cannot go over all the various signs because they are extremely numerous. (Genesis 1, Joel, Luke, Acts and Revelation all say there will be signs in the heavens before the great and notable day).

9. We had the sign of Jonah, 7 months ago we had a man swallowed by a whale and at the same time a boy named Jonah is pulled from the rubble after surfside building collapse. The Lord prophesied that this would be the only sign given to the adulterous generation and this man who was swallowed by the whale did go on all their talk shows.

10. We also had the street protests all over the US. Jonah was not simply about a man swallowed by a great fish but also about 40 days of street protests.

11. chapter 1 of Joel describes a global shutdown of the economy never before seen that brings people to poverty and this is not due to drought or flood but rather a plague of insect like creatures that swarm and devour. Chapter two sounds the trumpet as an alarm saying the day of the Lord cometh and is nigh at hand then it describes this plague of "insect" like creatures turning the land to a desolate wilderness. They can get into any house, past any window, we have no weapon against them, and they all march in a line without pushing on anyone like watching people lined up in social distancing entering a grocery store. He says this is focused on the pastors and priests. The churches are shut down, the offerings cease, and the Lord is declaring a fast, a solemn gathering for us to repent and call out to Him for mercy. Meanwhile He tells the faithful worshippers of the Lord to fear not and this is where we learn He will pour out His spirit on all flesh and you will dream dreams and have visions.

12. your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions — this is in Joel at the same time as a worldwide pandemic which shuts down the global economy and shuts down churches.
OK, so there is a lot more to the 1948 -- this generation shall not pass away than just Israel becoming a nation.

6 European nations signed a "Unification of Europe" pact leading to the reformation of the Roman Empire predicted in Revelation.

World Council of Churches was formed in 1948 leading to one world religion.

World Trade Organization was formed in 1948 leading to one world currency

First computer chip was built in 1948 leading to the mark of the beast.

Abortion industry was born in 1948 -- human sacrifices to Satan

Planned Parenthood was also formed -- sacrifices to the Beast

33 RPM records were first made leading to the programming of the world's conscious.

Commercial TV started leading to the programming of the world's conscious.

NATO was born

UN Declaration of Human rights was also made in this year.

Kinsey report on sexual revolution -- this was a lie that has led to the sexual perversion of the US as Sodom and Gomorrah.

Israel's first use of bioweapons -- leading ultimately to the Covid bioweapon pandemic.

Vaccines on a large scale were first used in 1948 -- leading ultimately to this vaccine as a bioweapon mandated to the whole world.

The NSA, CIA and FBI were created in 1947-1948, this is the deep state. This is how the illuminati got their "all seeing eye".

And the transistor radio was also invented -- part of the mark of the beast
 

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21 prophecies that he brings out that point to 2021 being the pre-tribulation rapture with the Tribulation beginning in 2022.

1. Fig Tree Prophecy -- everything is fulfilled by 2028, so the 7 year tribulation begins 2022.

2. Abomination timeline refers to the prophecy in Daniel. If the days equal years this leads to the building of Mosque on the Dome of the Rock and then from there to 2021 (which ends April 2nd).

3. Daniel's weeks refer to the prophecy that exactly tells us when the Lord would come and be crucified the first time. Apparently the exact same formula can be applied to an event that took place less than 500 years ago and leads us to 2021.

4. It is 2520 prophetic years (360 days per year) from the decree to rebuild the Temple to 2021.

5. Hosea says after 2 days He will revive us and on the third day He will raise us up. There has been careful calculation that the crucifixion was in 28 AD, which would suggest all things are fulfilled in 2028 and the Millenial reign begins after that.

6. We know that 1917 and 1967 were jubilee years based on a prophecy from a Rabbi hundreds of years ago. Therefore 2017 was also a jubilee year. Then the prophecy concerning the fig tree that they would give it four years to give fruit before he tears it down indicates that 2021 is the deadline and by the Jewish calendar 2021 ends April 2nd.

7. The Revelation 12 sign Sept 23, 2017 is also a major sign, it took place on the first day of awe. There are 10 days of awe before the day of atonement. This would make 2021 the fourth day of awe, if the 70th week is seven years with the last year being the day of atonement then the tribulation must begin in 2022.

8. Prior to the Revelation 12 sign we had 4 blood moons that took place on Jewish holy days, we had a comet ISon show up in the heavens during the entire 8 days of Hanukkah in 2012, we had a remarkable Solar eclipse that went over 7 cities named "Salem" in the US, etc., etc. I cannot go over all the various signs because they are extremely numerous. (Genesis 1, Joel, Luke, Acts and Revelation all say there will be signs in the heavens before the great and notable day).

9. We had the sign of Jonah, 7 months ago we had a man swallowed by a whale and at the same time a boy named Jonah is pulled from the rubble after surfside building collapse. The Lord prophesied that this would be the only sign given to the adulterous generation and this man who was swallowed by the whale did go on all their talk shows.

10. We also had the street protests all over the US. Jonah was not simply about a man swallowed by a great fish but also about 40 days of street protests.

11. chapter 1 of Joel describes a global shutdown of the economy never before seen that brings people to poverty and this is not due to drought or flood but rather a plague of insect like creatures that swarm and devour.

Chapter two sounds the trumpet as an alarm saying the day of the Lord cometh and is nigh at hand then it describes this plague of "insect" like creatures turning the land to a desolate wilderness. They can get into any house, past any window, we have no weapon against them, and they all march in a line without pushing on anyone like watching people lined up in social distancing entering a grocery store. He says this is focused on the pastors and priests. The churches are shut down, the offerings cease, and the Lord is declaring a fast, a solemn gathering for us to repent and call out to Him for mercy. Meanwhile He tells the faithful worshippers of the Lord to fear not and this is where we learn He will pour out His spirit on all flesh and you will dream dreams and have visions.

12. your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions — this is in Joel at the same time as a worldwide pandemic which shuts down the global economy and shuts down churches.

13. 6 European nations signed a "Unification of Europe" pact leading to the reformation of the Roman Empire predicted in Revelation.

33 RPM records were first made leading to the programming of the world's conscious.

Commercial TV started leading to the programming of the world's conscious.

NATO was born

14. World Council of Churches was formed in 1948 leading to one world religion.

15. World Trade Organization was formed in 1948 leading to one world currency

16. First computer chip was built in 1948 leading to the mark of the beast.

And the transistor radio was also invented -- part of the mark of the beast

17. Abortion industry was born in 1948 -- human sacrifices to Satan

Planned Parenthood was also formed -- sacrifices to the Beast

18. UN Declaration of Human rights was also made in this year.— So that they are without excuse

19. Kinsey report on sexual revolution -- this was a lie that has led to the sexual perversion of the US as Sodom and Gomorrah. — just as the Lord said, it would be as the days of Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah

20. Israel's first use of bioweapons -- leading ultimately to the Covid bioweapon pandemic. — The pale horse

Vaccines on a large scale were first used in 1948 -- leading ultimately to this vaccine as a bioweapon mandated to the whole world.

21. The NSA, CIA and FBI were created in 1947-1948, this is the deep state. This is how the illuminati got their "all seeing eye". — The whole world lies in the evil one.
 

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Isaiah 26:1-8 -- Open ye the gates

1 In that day shall this song be sung in the land of Judah; We have a strong city; salvation will God appoint for walls and bulwarks.

This day refers to the Day of the Lord which is a ten year period beginning with the Feast of Trumpets and is prophetic for the end of this age.

2 Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in.


This verse refers to the rapture of the saints. What is confusing is that there will be at least two raptures, a “pre trib rapture and a post trib rapture”. That is for the believers, then on top of that there is the rapture of Israel. So I suspect this is closer to the conclusion of everything, not the beginning.

3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. 4 Trust ye in the Lord for ever: for in the Lord Jehovah is everlasting strength:

The saints are raptured to a place of perfect peace during the tribulation. Prior to this event there will be signs, there will be rumors, there will be demonic things, rebellious things, and to keep in perfect peace you will need to keep your mind stayed on the Lord.

5 For he bringeth down them that dwell on high; the lofty city, he layeth it low; he layeth it low, even to the ground; he bringeth it even to the dust.

The Lord will bring down the arrogant to the dust at this time. These aren’t saints, so they must be unbelievers. Many believers have the mistaken understanding that we have nothing to do with what is happening on the world, or with the leaders of these countries. The bible weaves the story of what is happening to both together. One verse it is the rapture, the next verse is the judgement on the corrupt rulers. Not only so but there is a verse that once He that restrains steps aside then all hell breaks loose. The church, as the bride of Christ, is animated by the Holy Spirit and is restraining evil on this earth until they are raptured. They expose election fraud, they expose the lies of the media, they hold the leaders accountable, they reject the sin that we see on Hunter Biden’s laptop. So then today what city is the "lofty city"? Would that be Washington DC? NYC? LA? Beijing? London? Rome? Jerusalem? Moscow? It might be all of them but one would think it is certainly one of them. So let's look a little closer, 5th Avenue in NYC, that is "lofty", Hollywood in LA that is lofty, etc. All of these cities have their "lofty portions". How about Wall Street, Embassy row, or Buckingham Palace?

6 The foot shall tread it down, even the feet of the poor, and the steps of the needy.


This is justice, as they have done it will be done to you. They tread down the poor and needy, so it is only right that they are tread upon by the poor and needy. Look at how they have treated the deplorables, well, as you have done it will be done to you. We have been commanded to love others as the Lord loved us. He loved us when we were in sin, when we were dead in our sins and offenses. Then we are told to love in deed, not just words. So it is a commandment of the Lord that we stand in defense of unbelievers, sinners, and those who are in sins.

7 The way of the just is uprightness: thou, most upright, dost weigh the path of the just. 8 Yea, in the way of thy judgments, O Lord, have we waited for thee; the desire of our soul is to thy name, and to the remembrance of thee.

Those who are raptured are judged. You have the wise and foolish virgins who either did or did not prepare. You also have those who are taken in the field and in the bed, while others are left behind. You have those who are feeding God’s people when the Lord returns and you have those who are burying their talent and feasting with the world. Those in the bed, are they sleeping? That wouldn’t make sense because we are warned repeatedly to watch and not sleep. Does this mean that the Lord will come at an instant which will be any of the 24 hours of the day depending on where you live? Maybe. Does it mean that some will be sick and infirm when the Lord comes?
 

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Isaiah 26:9-21 Enter thou into thy chambers

9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

This will begin the millennial kingdom of Christ where His judgements are in the earth and the world will learn righteousness. It begins with the world reaping what they have sown during the tribulation. We have seen what an unrighteous government looks like, now for a thousand years we will learn what righteousness can yield.

10 Let favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the Lord.

Many do not understand why the Lord tarries in His judgement, but it is to prove this point. Shewing the wicked favor does not result in their repentance from evil. Likewise, they see a land of uprightness as a prime opportunity to run their scams since people are naturally trusting. Regardless of how much you might speak on the majesty of the Lord they will refuse to see it.

11 Lord, when thy hand is lifted up, they will not see: but they shall see, and be ashamed for their envy at the people; yea, the fire of thine enemies shall devour them.

And this is why the end of this age is a time of rejoicing for some and a time of woe for others. Do you see the Lord’s majesty? Do you see that His hand is lifted up? Deal with your envy, because when the Lord judges it is like a forest fire that devours up all the dried out trees.

12 Lord, thou wilt ordain peace for us: for thou also hast wrought all our works in us.


The church is the Lord’s masterpiece, He has been building it for 2,000 years and the end of the age is a display of all the works He has wrought in us.

13 O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name. 14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.

Human history also testifies to the greatness of our Lord. We discover every day that many, many societies that existed previously have all been visited, destroyed and their memory has perished.

15 Thou hast increased the nation, O Lord, thou hast increased the nation: thou art glorified: thou hadst removed it far unto all the ends of the earth. 16 Lord, in trouble have they visited thee, they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them. 17 Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O Lord.

This is the great sign in heaven that we saw September 2017, and which John wrote about in Revelation 12. It indicates that God’s people are like a woman in travail to give birth. We see God’s people in travail to give birth and the wicked doing everything in their power to stop this from happening.

18 We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.

At the time of the Lord’s coming the people of God will be in pain, like birth pains, crying out to Him. The world may be rejoicing, but once the baby is born and caught up to heaven (the first rapture) then the world’s rejoicing will turn to sorrow and God’s people will be the ones rejoicing. Even at this moment many feel like all of the travail has been for naught.

19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

The dead in Christ rise and then those of us who remain will also be with the Lord in the air. This will be stunning, all these men of faith for the last two thousand years rising from the grave.

20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

During the Tribulation those that are raptured are able to hide in these chambers till the Lord’s indignation is past. But what will the situation be like? The Lord will be indignant at the sins and abusive behavior of the corrupt leaders. Already we see that the wheat harvest in the US has been destroyed, and the harvests in China have been destroyed, and the pasture land in the US has been destroyed. The Lord said His coming would be like a thief in the night. No one is paying attention but the food has been destroyed. It takes months in the pipeline before a cow in the field or grain growing in the field ends up on the grocery store shelves. This indignation is already coming down the pipeline. We can see terrible famine in Yemen and Madagascar, but once this hits it will become much more widespread. Think of the famine coming like a caravan of trucks driving to DC to protest the mandates.

21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.


This is a picture of the end of this age. It begins with the festival of trumpets and this chapter in Isaiah is always read during this festival. After the rapture we have the four horsemen of the apocalypse followed by the fifth seal where the martyrs are revealed and their blood under the altar is disclosed. What are the horsemen? The Gospel and the false gospel (represented by the White horse), war, famine and plague. What we will learn is that there are many, many people responsible for these atrocities that the Lord will punish at this time.

The only word I have heard concerning the rapture and the tribulation is that the rapture takes place 187 days before the tribulation (based on the typology of David being king in Hermon) and the tribulation begins on the Feast of Trumpets.
 

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Hebrews 11:21-39 When the end was near they spoke about the exodus

21 By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.


How exactly did Jacob do this? He had to have known the two kids, prayed for them, and sought God for them. Your faith can be expressed, like Enoch with a prophecy, or like Noah in building a boat, or like Jacob in praying for your grandchildren.

22 By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions concerning the burial of his bones.


You can pray for your people, and those in bondage.

23 By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king’s edict.


Faith can be expressed by civil disobedience, rejecting unjust laws, like Rosa Parks.

24 By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter. 25 He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin. 26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward.


This is crucial, if you hope to be raptured then surely you are looking ahead to the reward and rejecting fleeting pleasures of sin. You are willing to be mistreated and suffer disgrace because you know these are a momentary lightness of affliction compared to the eternal weight of glory.

27 By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible.


How is it that some of these guys can persevere? By all accounts Moses life was essentially over when he saw the burning bush. You persevere by faith, because you see the invisible one.

28 By faith he kept the Passover and the application of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.


Moses expresses a lot of faith. He is looking ahead for his reward, he sees the invisible one, and he is then able to follow directions precisely in keeping the Passover. When you hear and obey, your ability to hear and obey improves. Eventually you could get so precise you could follow very detailed instructions.

29 By faith the people passed through the Red Sea as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.


Think how arrogant they have to be to think they could follow after Israel through the Red Sea. Moses was exhibiting a very high level of faith developed over a lifetime and these Egyptians were those who utterly rejected the word of God and were faithless. Moses stepping into the sea was an act of faith, the Egyptians pursuing was an act of arrogance.

30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the army had marched around them for seven days.

Faith of who? This is Israel acting as a corporate body in faith. CNN is collapsing, it is a "wall of Jericho", Facebook is collapsing, Twitter is collapsing, Paypal is collapsing, GoFundMe is collapsing. This is all part of the wall of Jericho. With each trumpet blast a new crack appears in the wall. Soon they will be overwhelmed with trumpet blasts about pedophilia and election fraud.

31 By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.

I consider Oscar Schindler to be a good example to understand this. He had “prostituted” himself with the Nazi’s selling them products to get rich. But he came to see the sins of the Nazi’s and he feared God more than the Nazis. So he hid several thousand Jews from extermination.

32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah,about David and Samuel and the prophets, 33 who through faith conquered kingdoms,administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies.

Yes, they ran out of time, but the Lord gave us 2,000 years to tell these stories. Just because they are not in the Bible doesn’t mean they aren’t in biographies and histories and these words also can build your faith.

35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. 37 They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated—38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.

Foxe's book of Martyrs tells many of these stories. There are websites dedicated to the persecuted church. These are also a wonderful way to build your faith.

39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, 40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.


So stop beating yourself up. Stop feeling like a failure. Without us they cannot be made perfect. They are depending on us. Right now they are all in the stands cheering us on. We are on the same team as Abraham, and Noah, and Moses and they are there cheering for us to bring this game home.
 

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You have no need that I should write you

5 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night

I was struck by Paul saying that concerning the times and seasons, you have no need that I should write you. Paul wrote this book about the signs of the Lord's coming, they asked him about the times and seasons and yet he says you have no need for him to write. He didn't say "you don't need to know that" but rather "you know perfectly well". Paul's letters represent the Lord's heavenly ministry. If we don't need Paul to tell us because we already know, then doesn't that mean that we were told by the Lord in His earthly ministry? Not only so but Paul continues that we know the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night. The Lord told us that. So then, instead of looking at the Old Testament, what do the gospels say about the rapture? The first rapture is likened to the mount of transfiguration. Not all the disciples went up, only a few. Not only so but they represented the sleeping church, the only ones who were wide awake were Moses and Elijah. This suggests to me that at the end of the age you will have those with the spirit of Moses and Elijah, they will be wide awake, they will be watching, they will be warning and sounding the alarm.

So what do we know about the time and season of the Mount of Transfiguration? We know it was six days after the Lord rebuked Peter saying "get thee behind me Satan", we are told this in Matthew and Mark. However, in Luke there is no mention of that rebuke and instead we are told it is "about eight days after the Lord said these things".

The rebuke of Peter is the biggest rebuke in the gospels, stunning really, and if I had to place it on the Jewish Calendar it would be the 9th of AV. However, "six days later" could refer to the six thousand years of human history since the fall of man. God said "on that day you shall surely die" and after these six days in the grave we have resurrection. Since it is "after six days" it would be on the seventh day and the number seven is a reference to the church.

Why is it "about the eighth day". The eighth day is when you start a new beginning and it is also when you offer up the firstborn of your herd and when you circumcise a firstborn male. When the Lord said He was going to go to the cross that is the circumcision, the cutting off of the flesh. The rapture is "about" the same thing. If you think about it the 9th of AV is not the beginning of the story, the witnesses went into the land, they came back, they gave the evil report, then Israel cried out that if they followed the Lord into the good land their children would die. The Lord said because you said that you will die in the wilderness but your children will go in instead of you. So that means on the 9th of AV those children were already there, they had to have been born prior to that day. The parents dying as an example to the kids is a kind of circumcision, cutting off the flesh. So the rapture is all about "the eighth day" the day you present the first fruit of the church to God as an offering. These ones were born prior to the 9th of AV, so for the ones who are raptured it is "about the eighth day".

Everyone is examining the types and shadows, that is fine, the feasts are a shadow of things to come, but Paul told us clearly that we had already been told about the time and season from the Lord Jesus. It is not reasonable to think that Paul an expert in the Old Testament would tell gentile believers they had no need for him to write to them if this truth were in the Old Testament.

Second, the other thing that has always bothered me is that in the gospels the Lord always says "no one knows the day or the hour" and yet it seems clear from a couple of verses that not knowing the day or the hour is what happens to those who do not watch.

Revelation 3:3 Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.

I think I have finally solved this puzzle too. The Lord said that the Father knew the day and the hour. This is like a professor giving the students a very difficult problem to solve and if they watch, if they spend time with the Father, if they examine the word carefully they will discover the truths concealed in the word. The Lord's word was not that "no one can know" or that "it is not permitted to know", His word that no one does know except the Father. That is saying don't go to this one or that one, simply go to the Father to solve this puzzle.
 

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After that you can cut it down

6 He also spoke this parable: “A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it and found none. 7 Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, ‘Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?’ 8 But he answered and said to him, ‘Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it. 9 And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.’ ”

This is a 4 year warning before God cuts down a nation. The USA was warned during the full moon of August, 2017 that resulted in a solar eclipse over Washington DC. The idea is that 2017 was a jubilee year, 50 years after 1967 which was also a jubilee year which was 50 years after 1917 which was also a jubilee year based on a prophecy fron some rabbi many years previously. The Lord looked for fruit in 2018 but it wasn't there, so he gave it four years and dung it, 2021 was known as the "dung year" since the number in Hebrew equalled the word for dung. This indicates that the tribulation will begin in 2022, the Hebrew year starts April 2, 2022.

What do you think, has the Lord found the fruit of righteousness in the US and Israel?
 

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The complacency of fools will destroy them

Proverbs 1:20 Out in the open wisdom calls aloud, she raises her voice in the public square;

There are those who are speaking the truth in the public square. You have to discern who is giving you light and who is giving you darkness. Who is telling you the truth and who is lying. Be careful, we all are tempted to "hear what we want to hear and disregard the rest". Generally, it is the one telling you what you don't want to hear that is telling you the truth.

21 on top of the wall she cries out, at the city gate she makes her speech:


The city gate indicates an official or leader or person of standing. During the pandemic we had three such doctors come forth and make their speech. They were vilified, attacked, ridiculed, and reviled, but they stood on top of the wall, they were in the city gate and made their speech. No one wanted to hear that the pandemic was a bioweapon and an evil scheme and that those we would want to trust were lying to us. But God was faithful to make sure you heard wisdom cry out.

22 “How long will you who are simple love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge?

Why is that so many people were so easily deceived? They did not pay attention in science class, they decided long ago they didn't have to understand that for themselves just follow like obedient sheep the leader and what he tells you. Put on a mask, done. Shut down businesses and schools, done. Get this experimental vaccine even though everything about it is screaming to beware, done. Lock up, censor and vilify anyone who questions these totalitarian demands, done.

23 Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings.


The real problem is not a matter of logic, or education. The real problem is that these ones have never repented, never received the Lord Jesus, they are not interested in His word, or His thoughts or His teachings. That is what happens at the end of the age, we discover who trusted in their own wisdom and who turned to the Lord, repented of their pride, and embraced His word.

24 But since you refuse to listen when I call and no one pays attention when I stretch out my hand, 25 since you disregard all my advice and do not accept my rebuke,

I don't know if this is taught that much in Christian churches anymore. They teach you need to believe in the Lord and confess that He is lord in order to be saved. OK, that is true. They may strongly encourage you to spend time in the word, in prayer, in fellowship, in worship in order to be sanctified and strengthened in your spirit. OK, that also is true. But ultimately you must listen when He calls, you must pay attention, you must regard His advice and accept His rebuke. If you don't do that then stop saying you love the Lord, you don't even do what He tells you. Stop saying you are a believer who has done wonderful works in His name, you don't have a relationship with Him, He doesn't know you, He doesn't approve of what you do.

26 I in turn will laugh when disaster strikes you; I will mock when calamity overtakes you—


I have tried to share with many people these last two years. To a large degree they laugh, they mock, they do not regard anything I say and they refuse to listen. This may sound cruel but disaster is about to strike them, this I know, and at that time I will laugh. This last year I have mocked the Joe Biden regime and that regime will result in calamity overtaking the US.

27 when calamity overtakes you like a storm, when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind, when distress and trouble overwhelm you.

It is going to come fast and furious, in an hour everything will change. There have been many, many warnings, many shots across the bow, many prophecies fulfilled, and yet God is merciful. He is giving people a chance to repent and get into the ark. But the saints will be shut into the ark in safety prior to the storm hitting. Once it hits it is too late. You can knock all you want at that point but no one is going to open.

28 “Then they will call to me but I will not answer; they will look for me but will not find me,


Once we are in the ark we will be with the Lord. The picture is of Noah and 7 souls. The number 7 signifies the church. So this picture is that we, the church, the believers who have been one with the Lord in this age to build the ark, are locked into this ark with Jesus before the storm hits. Prior to that time we are to be witnesses in the hopes that all would be saved and none would perish. But at that time you won't find us, we'll be with the Lord. You assumed we would be at your beck and call, that was arrogant. We are servants of the Lord, we are at His beck and call, not yours.

29 since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the Lord. 30 Since they would not accept my advice and spurned my rebuke,

So many do not understand this. Yes God is merciful and longsuffering, but your response will determine your judgement. If you hated knowledge you will be judged for that. If you did not choose the fear of the Lord you will be judged for that. If you don't accept the Lord's advice, you spurned His rebuke, you will be judged for that.

31 they will eat the fruit of their ways and be filled with the fruit of their schemes.


You reap what you sow. As you have done it will be done to you. If you are one filled with all kinds of schemes then you will be filled with the fruit of those schemes.

32 For the waywardness of the simple will kill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them;


All you had to do to be caught up with this whole vaccine clot shot was to be complacent. When the shutdown came what did you do? I had an extra 3 hours a day to get into the Bible. I dove in with reckless abandon. But what about others, were they complacent? Did they use this time to binge watch TV? Play video games? Waste their time in so many ways? Were you wayward? That will kill you. Were you complacent? That will destroy you.

33 but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of harm.”

I was in NYC, the Lord was speaking to me that calamity was coming. I had no peace and no life to take the vaccine. However, refusing the vaccine meant that I and my wife would lose our jobs. We resigned, sold the house, and moved to South Dakota. Here I feel we are now in safety, I feel we can be without fear of harm. This doesn't mean the Lord might not speak in the future to move again, I don't know, all I know is that once I crossed into Iowa I was filled with life and peace feeling that we had sidestepped the coming calamity because we listened to the Lord.
 

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Her focus is on "order out of chaos" and all the lies involved in the path to getting this new global alliance.
I want to bring this forward because I think she does an excellent job of showing that the US is the great Babylon referenced in the Book of Revelation and where we see a number of prophecies concerning the judgement.
 

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Ukraine, Latvia and Estonia are the three ribs in Russia's mouth
 

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Isaiah 9:1-17 -- Those who guide this people mislead them

1 Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan—2 The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.

This chapter is quite interesting. It begins with a reference to the Lord’s earthly ministry when He first began to minister in Galilee. It was at the end of a long dark night, the great light first rose on them. Why? Because they had been humbled.

3 You have enlarged the nation and increased their joy; they rejoice before you as people rejoice at the harvest, as warriors rejoice when dividing the plunder. 4 For as in the day of Midian’s defeat, you have shattered the yoke that burdens them, the bar across their shoulders, the rod of their oppressor.


Now this can’t refer to Israel because after the Lord’s earthly ministry they were not enlarged, they were scattered, defeated. Instead this must refer to the gospel going to the four corners of the earth. Jesus' resurrection was the firstfruits, that was when we rejoiced as at the harvest. Jesus’ death on the cross was what shattered our yoke, the bar across our shoulders, the rod of the oppressor. This refers to the move of the gospel during the church age.

5 Every warrior’s boot used in battle and every garment rolled in blood will be destined for burning, will be fuel for the fire. 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this.

Jesus is the Savior, He is also the king. He is the life giving one who redeemed us from sin. He is also the one who reigns on David’s throne. During this age we have seen a lot of wars, a lot of battles, a lot of blood. This is the carnage due to incompetent rulers who sinned and fell short of the glory of God. All of them are destined for burning. When we learn about the deep state, the 1%, the ones who are developing these super soldiers where they combine soldiers with robots and AI and with this mark of the beast that will give this 1% so much power and control it is amazing, astounding to me that Jesus would lead us out this way. Instead of looking at the enemy look at how great our God is.

8 The Lord has sent a message against Jacob; it will fall on Israel.

And then the Lord sent us a message that this kingdom would fall. 9/11 was a message to repent, it was a message that our hedge of protection had been removed and that the enemy was inside our camp.

9 All the people will know it— Ephraim and the inhabitants of Samaria—who say with pride and arrogance of heart, 10 “The bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stone; the fig trees have been felled, but we will replace them with cedars.”

The entire world saw 9/11, everyone knew it. They saw that the mighty nation was no longer invulnerable. God saw it too. He saw the proud and arrogant proclamations that we would “rebuild, bigger and better”. We weren’t humbled like the Galileans that the Lord came to, no we were proud and arrogant. This message didn’t cause us to turn back to the Lord, to repent for kicking God out of our country. Prayer and scriptures have been kicked out of school, public displays of the ten commandments have been torn down, any expression of God or Jesus publicly is almost certainly to be mocking. God was our hedge of protection, get rid of Him and we are now wide open to attack.

11 But the Lord has strengthened Rezin’s foes against them and has spurred their enemies on. 12 Arameans from the east and Philistines from the west have devoured Israel with open mouth. Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away, his hand is still upraised. 13 But the people have not returned to him who struck them, nor have they sought the Lord Almighty.

Since 9/11 the foes have not decreased, they have doubled. We have fought several wars in the middle east that have cost us over a trillion dollars. We are in the midst of a trade war with China. We have had a mortgage crisis which has also cost us close to a trillion dollars all told. There has been a realization that this is God’s judgement, there have been national days of prayer. But this is only with the Christians, not with the nation as a whole.

14 So the Lord will cut off from Israel both head and tail, both palm branch and reed in a single day; 15 the elders and dignitaries are the head, the prophets who teach lies are the tail. 16 Those who guide this people mislead them, and those who are guided are led astray. 17 Therefore the Lord will take no pleasure in the young men, nor will he pity the fatherless and widows, for everyone is ungodly and wicked, every mouth speaks folly. Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away, his hand is still upraised.

It has become abundantly clear that the people who guide this people mislead them. Trump admitted as much on a taped interview with Woodward. Pelosi railed against the President for not wearing a mask and then was caught in her hypocrisy on camera. Kamala Harris railed against the disrespect to minorities and Blacks and then disrespected her own father saying of course she smokes weed she is from Jamaica. Her own father had to publicly rebuke her for this. She told Biden she believed the women who were accusing him of sexual misconduct and then is happy to forget all about it to run with him for president. Biden’s son got rich because his father was the Vice President. The prophets who teach lies are the media. Fake news and biased news is blatantly obvious. Turn on CNN and you will hear how the latest thing that happened proves how terrible Trump is, change the station to Fox and they will be saying the exact same event proves how great Trump is. It isn’t just them, on social media every mouth speaks folly. Many of us are suffering through all this as the worst punishment, we could not imagine a world, or leaders like this. Yet this has not satisfied the Lord’s anger.

There is a fantastic contrast here between Jesus giving us the ministry which will build up a church which can stand against the Satanic hosts of heaven and these incompetent prophets who tell lies. Jesus and the apostles gave us guidance like the finest gold but these ones who claim to be guides mislead the people.
 

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Mark 9:30-50 Key lessons in spiritual warfare

Jesus Predicts His Death a Second Time

30 They left that place and passed through Galilee. Jesus did not want anyone to know where they were, 31 because he was teaching his disciples. He said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be delivered into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise.” 32 But they did not understand what he meant and were afraid to ask him about it. 33 They came to Capernaum. When he was in the house, he asked them, “What were you arguing about on the road?” 34 But they kept quiet because on the way they had argued about who was the greatest. 35 Sitting down, Jesus called the Twelve and said, “Anyone who wants to be first must be the very last, and the servant of all.” 36 He took a little child whom he placed among them. Taking the child in his arms, he said to them, 37 “Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me does not welcome me but the one who sent me.”

I was watching these videos by this sister explaining that the USA is the Great Babylon listed in Revelation 17 and 18. I would say that she fully convinced me, it was very persuasive. Anyway her videos covered a whole lot of evil, freemason type satanic cults, and one little clip impressed me. It was an interview of Madonna when she was just starting out and they asked her what her goal in life was and she said to rule the world. This is what Freemasons, satanic cults, illuminati and all the rest are all about. They want to rule the world. If you fall for that temptation for power, or authority, or promotion, etc. then you will be an easy target for Satan. If you embrace being a servant of all it is like bug repellant, it keeps all Lord of the flies away. The satanic cults are all about being #1 which is why they are the 1%, there isn’t room at the top for more than that. But the 99%, that is the base. True, a third are fleshly, but that still leaves over 60% that receive the Lord, believe in the Lord, and will ultimately with a little prodding during the tribulation follow the Lord and dedicate their lives to Him.

Whoever Is Not Against Us Is for Us

38 “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.” 39 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us. 41 Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.

Once again, a big difference between the church and the satanists. If you are not against the church it is very likely that one day you may receive the Lord and be saved. But the satanists bind themselves with vile oaths, if you are not for them then you are against them and they will take vengeance. This is the way the world works. I was listening to Andrew Cuomo trying to save his political career after the AG report concerning him and 11 allegations of sexual harassment. He talked about one woman in great detail how she was a survivor of sexual abuse, how she needed counselling, and how he hoped only the best for her. While his words superficially sounded liked he cared for her, right beneath the surface they were saying “this woman is crazy, she is damaged good, you would be a nut to hire her”. This is the way the world works.

Causing to Stumble

42 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea. 43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. [44] 45 And if your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. [46] 47 And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48 where “‘the worms that eat them do not die,
and the fire is not quenched.’

What a reassuring word after seeing all this horror that these demonic satanists are involved in. On the one hand it is truly horrifying what they do, but on the other they have forgotten who God is. God is omniscient, He is omnipresent, He is going to fully deal with these demonic ones and cleanse the earth of them. It is as though He is refining silver and he uses these demonic ones to attract the dross to be removed from the silver. Have nothing to do with them. Do not be tempted by power, do not be jealous of these “elites” and definitely do not be a cause of stumbling to others.

49 Everyone will be salted with fire. 50 “Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can you make it salty again? Have salt among yourselves, and be at peace with each other.”

I heard someone explaining how Christians can’t do anything. We can’t get rid of CRT in schools, we can’t do anything about war crimes committed by our country, we have to pay taxes regardless of what the elected officials do, if the people want abortions what can you do, etc., etc. They think they are being a “Christian” because they don’t judge anyone, but what they are really doing is winking at sin. They have lost their saltiness.
 

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The day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night

5 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night


Paul tells us we don't need anyone to tell us about the times and the seasons because we know this one thing, that the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night. There is a lot here so let's get into it. I have taught forensics for several years in High School. Technically the term "Forensics" refers to the application of scientific principles to answer a question. Very often that question has to do with a crime or a lie and science has offered us a tremendous toolkit to answer these questions. However, there is a very wide range of "crimes". So for example I would have my kids look at three case studies, these are three of the biggest "crimes" or "mysteries" of this generation and as a result they have the most extensive forensic analysis. I loved to use these three because each one shows how many different tools we have at our disposal and at the same time there was almost no overlap from one to the next. The first was the assassination of JFK, the second was 9/11 which is essentially a forensic engineering problem and a problem concerning fire. The third was the Shroud of Turin. It might surprise you to learn that the Shroud of Turin has undergone a more comprehensive and thorough forensic analysis than any other artifact in human history. I tell you this because I intend to dive deeply into this question from many different angles.

At the simplest level you can discover that a thief has come when you wake up in the morning and find your house has been ransacked. I will assume that neither the Lord nor anyone else reading this wants to discover that the day of the Lord has come after the fact, but rather they want to be able to see the day approaching.

For example, code breakers were able to break the code concerning the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor prior to the attack. Had the commanders in charge reacted immediately to that intelligence we would have inflicted much heavier losses on the Japanese that day. It would have been a big deal to sound the alarm that we were under attack, to have every ship's commander send out an immediate alert to return to ship and to weigh anchor, it would have been chaotic and had he been wrong you can be sure that commander would have suffered the consequences. So he did the easy thing, he ignored the intelligence.

The principle theory in forensics is that "every contact leaves a trace". Now if someone is going to carjack you their may be little or no warning, simple, random crime with little or no pre planning is very difficult to predict.

But we are not talking about that. We are talking about a theft that is Biblical, apocalyptic and has been in the works for six thousand years. Satan wants to rule the world and that is the theft we are talking about. He wants to rob you of your ability to worship the Lord or to speak the truth or even to read the Bible. We are talking about a massive, worldwide theft. This theft will leave a lot of traces. That is what we are looking for.

Right now we expect that our Military, NSA, CIA, FBI and the whole gang of alphabet organizations are working to make sure this country is not "stolen". We expect they run simulations and gather intelligence to make sure there is no theft of our country. They are looking for spies, moles, cyber attacks, chemical and biologic attacks, as well as "kinetic warfare". They understand that counterfeiting our currency is an economic attack on this country.

So I believe the Lord's charge to us to watch and to be prepared coupled with this word about the day of the Lord coming as a thief in the night identifies the church and the watchmen as the Spiritual NSA. We are not conspiracy theorists, the Lord told us that Satan is a thief, he is a liar, he is a murderer, and that the whole world lies in the evil one. That is not a conspiracy theory, that is a fact.

We don't look at the holocaust of genocide as an aberration, rather that is the veil coming back so we can see the man behind the curtain. The mortgage meltdown where they stole millions of houses from people, that is who they are. The fact that both republican and democratic administrations did nothing to prosecute this crime tells you how extensive the fraud is. The laws that enabled this theft were passed during Clinton's administration, the crime was exposed during Bush's administration and then it was Obama who decided they were too big to prosecute and let them all off the hook. JFK assassination shows they have no problem murdering people to get what they want. and 911 shows they like war, war is profitable, and using false flag events to get it is no big deal to them. It also shows how little they regard the American people that they would pull off such a blatant and in your face fraud and yet think they would get away with it because it involved math and engineering.

But this is how "a thief comes in the night". They have to case the joint, they have to make sure the sheriff is completely compromised, and they have to work up to the big job with a few smaller jobs first. Think about that, 911, JFK assassination and the mortgage meltdown were simply the small jobs they did first to make sure they could pull of the big heist. The mark of the beast is the attempt to pull of the big heist.
 

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The day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night part 2


One thing that is very confusing is does the Lord come as a thief in the night or do we see Satan the thief coming as a thief in the night as a sign of the day of the Lord?

The answer from what I can gather is that it is all of the above. Much of what happens at the Day of the Lord is righteous judgement from the Lord, as you have done it will be done unto you.

Let's discuss a few of the examples. In Amos it lays out the sins of the US (I assume they are the sins of all other countries as well), the point is that we need to prepare for the coming of the Lord and to do that we need a thorough confession and repentance of our sins. Now one of those sins was what happened earlier in the 1900s where all advertising and even "scientific" studies portrayed blacks in a poor light, even an insulting image. It was so bad that by the 50s if you put two dolls in front of a little black girl and asked which is the pretty one, which is the smart one, she would point to the white doll and which is the ugly stupid one she would point to the black doll. How despicable to teach this racists hate filled ideas to little kids. Well the tables have been turned with CRT and they are teaching that all hate filled racists ideas comes from white people. Both are racist and hate filled teachings, but it is righteous judgement that "as you have done it will be done to you".

There were a lot of scams during the Jim Crow era where blacks were swindled, cheated and defrauded out of homes, jobs, and justice. So again, it is righteous judgement by the Lord that as you have done it will be done to you.

So then, in this case you can see that the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night. Who is the thief? Well, the Lord is using the thieves to execute His righteous judgement.