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Spot the gap in this scripture.

Isaiah 61:1-2
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
The Kingdom of The Body of CHRIST started at the end of the 70 Weeks.

Daniel 9:24

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
 
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Spot the gap in this scripture.

Isaiah 61:1-2
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
And i get it, JESUS read that ...the problem is It didn't give a timeframe like the 70 Weeks did.
 
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There is something very curious about 70 Weeks and then the year 70 A.D.
 
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If you understand The Kingdom is now ...what do you think that entails? How does anyone have Spiritual Fruits right now ...if The Kingdom isn't now?

A Kingdom Citizen has to uphold The Last Adam's Image to remain a Child on the Narrow Path of SALVATION.

Premills don't want The Kingdom to be now ...for that reason!

The Last Adam had Pure Blood to Fix our Reborn Image. It gave us The Way to stop sinning.

1 Corinthians 15:20-24 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1co/15/20-24/s_1077020

Romans 6:3-12 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rom/6/3-12/s_1052003

1 Corinthians 15:44-49 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1co/15/44-49/s_1077044

If the Last Adam is involved in SALVATION ...then the Choice from the Garden of Eden is involved. Stop eating from the wrong Tree!
 
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The Last Adam is Married to New Jerusalem. The Head and The Body of CHRIST are One.

You overcome sin for SALVATION.


Revelation 3:12
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

If we are pillars of The Kingdom ...how is New Jerusalem not right now?

The Head is giving It's Body an Image to The Way to walk past the Angels that are guarding The Tree of LIFE. JESUS is The Truth of the situation we are in.
 

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you cannot see the Kingdom as long as you think you do not sin ( which you do, like every other human)

your eyes are fixed on you.
 
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Spot the gap in this scripture.

Isaiah 61:1-2
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
But wow, your scripture goes with Daniel 9:24

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

JESUS is how all these things are possible right now.
 
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You ignore that the 69th Week was already used making the “cut off” in the middle of the 70th …meaning you don’t have a full week to stick on the end of time.

Daniel 9:26
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

JESUS is The Prince that allowed The City to be destroyed.

Isaiah 53:7-10
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
 
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There is something very curious about 70 Weeks and then the year 70 A.D.
Is there?

Daniel wrote his Inspired Thoughts around 530 B.C.
70 A.D. is 600 [SIX HUNDRED] years after when Daniel wrote his Prophecies.
70x7 weeks is only 490 years.

600
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110 years.

There is NOTHING CURIOUS about 70 weeks and 70 A.D. because they can never connect like you hope they could.
 
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you cannot see the Kingdom as long as you think you do not sin ( which you do, like every other human)

your eyes are fixed on you.

Do you get that JESUS was The Last Adam? Do you know what that means? Did you know we were created in His Image but the first Adam corrupted it? Do you wonder what the key is to overcome sin is?


When you sin you are refusing JESUS' Blood to correct your image.

Could you have the image of the beast right now if you are not letting GOD Form you to His Image?

sin is not loving GOD ...you chose to love your flesh instead. Bridge to The Father through The Image of His Son. sin takes you off the Plan of SALVATION ...you fell off The Bridge of Love.

satan is bound in that he can't prevent you from being on that Bridge of SALVATION if you want it. he has no case against you in the Heavenly Courts after JESUS' Blood Created The Reborn Image. ...so uphold CHRIST'S IMAGE!
 
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Do you get that JESUS was The Last Adam? Do you know what that means? Did you know we were created in His Image but the first Adam corrupted it? Do you wonder what the key is to overcome sin is?


When you sin you are refusing JESUS' Blood to correct your image.

Could you have the image of the beast right now if you are not letting GOD Form you to His Image?

sin is not loving GOD ...you chose to love your flesh instead. Bridge to The Father through The Image of His Son. sin takes you off the Plan of SALVATION ...you fell off The Bridge of Love.

satan is bound in that he can't prevent you from being on that Bridge of SALVATION if you want it. he has no case against you in the Heavenly Courts after JESUS' Blood Created The Reborn Image. ...so uphold CHRIST'S IMAGE!
We have proven several lies coming directly from you.
Lying is a SIN!

When ARE YOU GOING TO UPHOLD CHRIST'S IMAGE?

Or, are YOU one of those do as I say, not as I do kind of person?
 
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We have proven several lies coming directly from you.
Lying is a SIN!

When ARE YOU GOING TO UPHOLD CHRIST'S IMAGE?

Or, are YOU one of those do as I say, not as I do kind of person?
i'm using JESUS to tell you The Truth of the situation we are in. Your dead spirit is blind to It because you can't stop eating from the wrong tree long enough to realize you are attacking The Light.
 
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The Mosaic Law was meant to point out JESUS who Fulfilled them in Totality. The Pharisees changed it to the level where you couldn't see that It was Pointing to JESUS. JESUS wanted them to see He was the one Fulfilling It. People thought they were fulfilling it themselves and thus self-righteous.

Everyone wants to accuse me of being self-righteous ...but i'm doing it through His Image ...it's what we are supposed to do for SALVATION.

Premills are claiming authentic Jews are still a thing ...that means they are saying JESUS didn't Fulfill the Old Covenant.


Hebrews 8:13
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
 

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What if the TRUE kingdom is yet to come, yet we are able to tap into that power now thru the gifts of the Holy Spirit?

One of the things promised in the kingdom is there will be no more sickness and death. We don't have that right now. BUT we are able to tap into that now thru the gift of miracle healing.

My take is that we have access to kingdom power now, even tho the full kingdom is yet to come.
 
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And i get it, JESUS read that ...the problem is It didn't give a timeframe like the 70 Weeks did.
What I was leading to... Jesus fulfilled up to "to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord", but "and the day of vengeance of our God" is a fulfillment for another time. There is a gap between the two aspects of the prophecy, 'though reading it as it was, one would assume they are fulfilled together (and there is no gap).
 
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i'm using JESUS to tell you The Truth of the situation we are in. Your dead spirit is blind to It because you can't stop eating from the wrong tree long enough to realize you are attacking The Light.
I disagree.

Jesus would not use [[LIES]] like you have to warn people of sin.

Jesus would not commit SINS to warn of SINNING!

You are doing this out of your own personal agenda which is opposite of a Sinless Christ!