Plan of Salvation

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studentoftheword

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To Pilgrimshope ----I apologise for my post to you today ------ I took your post out of Context and apologise for not reading it more carefully and responding in an more appropriate manner -----:)
 
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i'm using JESUS to tell you The Truth of the situation we are in. Your dead spirit is blind to It because you can't stop eating from the wrong tree long enough to realize you are attacking The Light.
 

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To Pilgrimshope ----I apologise for my post to you today ------ I took your post out of Context and apologise for not reading it more carefully and responding in an more appropriate manner -----:)



There may be hope between us, I can see you can apologize and become humble.

I too apologize for my words against you.

We MUST be likeminded with such a STRONG chain of the word,that we have each other's backs.

Thank you Student for restoring my sight in what people say against what they mean.



The devil wants to devour,steal,destroy and wreck our Faith. WE MUST STAND AGAINST HIM ...TOGETHER!
 
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We all know we are Saved Via The Blood of CHRIST ...none of you seem to care what that actually means.

When you ask CHRIST to Cover you in His Blood you are asking Him to shape you to His Image because He is The Last Adam. Do you want to pretend "Image" doesn't have something to do with the first Adam?
 

Blik

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Of course, that is how the process begins.
Christ tells us the process begins when we repent. To repent means we turn from the world's kingdom to the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 4:17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”
 
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SophieT

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i'm using JESUS to tell you The Truth of the situation we are in. Your dead spirit is blind to It because you can't stop eating from the wrong tree long enough to realize you are attacking The Light.
oh you are USING Jesus, are you?

does He know?

you are hilarious and laughable if not for the fact you are without comprehension of what the Bible actually states
 

Pilgrimshope

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This is humbling for I am flesh like all here and surely sin in things. Thank the Lord for the Spirit that reveals and a Saviour that forgives!
Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.”
‭‭James‬ ‭4:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬


humbled is the right place to be !!!!!


we’re all still works in progress but Jesus is complete and able to keep his word to believers !!! Press on soldier
 

Nehemiah6

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This is a thread on the Plan of Salvation.
When you come right down to it, God's Plan of Salvation was distilled by Christ into just two verses -- John 3:16,17.

For God -- salvation begins and ends with God. Man can do nothing to save himself.

so loved the world -- God's love is totally amazing -- "amazing grace!". It includes absolutely everyone, even the vilest of sinners.

that he gave -- God's grace is immeasurable since He gives to those who do not deserve His gifts, and keeps on giving. And the gifts and callings of God are "without repentance" (are never taken back).

his only begotten Son -- Paul calls Christ God's "unspeakable" gift -- an indescribable gift which involves God the Son (or God the Word). That God would send Jesus to suffer and die for sinful humanity in a way that no man has suffered shows the love of God in action.

that whosoever -- this means absolutely anyone and everyone. If the whole world believed the whole world would be saved. The offer of salvation is to all mankind, since all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

believeth in him -- to believe "in" or "on" the Lord Jesus Christ is to believe everything that God has said about Him, including the fact that He is God and His finished work of redemption in His death, burial, and resurrection. To believe wholeheartedly is to (a) repent and (b) receive Christ as both Lord and Savior. Those who believe are justified by GRACE through faith plus nothing.

should not perish -- the Gospel does not exclude the reality of eternal Hell (the Lake of Fire). "Perish" does not mean annihilation (as taught by the cults) but eternal damnation. The primary purpose of salvation is to save us from Hell. The secondary purpose of salvation is to save us from ourselves -- our "flesh" -- through the power of the Holy Spirit. The ultimate purpose of salvation is to transform us totally into the likeness of Christ.

but have everlasting life -- God freely gives the GIFT of everlasting or eternal life to the one who calls upon Christ to save him or her. The existence of the Tree of Life in Eden was to show mankind that God wanted humanity to have eternal life. But many will exclude themselves by refusing to obey the Gospel.

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world -- Christ did not come into the world at His first advent as divine Judge but as the Lamb of God. However, He will come again as the Judge and Ruler of the world at His Second Coming.

but that the world through him might be saved -- this one clause is sufficient to tell Christians that Calvinism is a lie, and that God really wants all men to be saved and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
 
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SophieT

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We all know we are Saved Via The Blood of CHRIST ...none of you seem to care what that actually means.

When you ask CHRIST to Cover you in His Blood you are asking Him to shape you to His Image because He is The Last Adam. Do you want to pretend "Image" doesn't have something to do with the first Adam?
if you actually believed that, that we are ALL saved by the blood of Christ, most of your posts would not exist

you contradict yourself and that is also not unusual for you or someone who blathers on as do you
 

Pilgrimshope

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So do I. But on here it gets me in the quagmire sometimes with others if you research outside of here on them......many facades here.

But study,I LOVE!
that’s what disciples do study the master and follow where he leads us
 
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if you actually believed that, that we are ALL saved by the blood of Christ, most of your posts would not exist

you contradict yourself and that is also not unusual for you or someone you blathers on as do you
i didn't say that, we are not all His Children ...maybe cut sin from your life and become one.
 
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i didn't say that, we are not all His Children ...maybe cut sin from your life and become one.
you don't know what you said. that is because you keep making things up

here is what you said:

We all know we are Saved Via The Blood of CHRIST ...none of you seem to care what that actually means.

When you ask CHRIST to Cover you in His Blood you are asking Him to shape you to His Image because He is The Last Adam. Do you want to pretend "Image" doesn't have something to do with the first Adam?
we all know we are saved by the blood of Christ

again, if you actually believed that, most of your posts would not exist

you are not sinless and you lie every single time you say that you are, while falsely accusing others of your own behavior
 
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oh you are USING Jesus, are you?

does He know?

you are hilarious and laughable if not for the fact you are without comprehension of what the Bible actually states
Read this!!!


1 John 3:4-10 ESV

4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.

6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.

8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.

10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
 

studentoftheword

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There may be hope between us, I can see you can apologize and become humble.

I too apologize for my words against you.

We MUST be likeminded with such a STRONG chain of the word,that we have each other's backs.

Thank you Student for restoring my sight in what people say against what they mean.



The devil wants to devour,steal,destroy and wreck our Faith. WE MUST STAND AGAINST HIM ...TOGETHER!

Amen to that -----:)---
 
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you don't know what you said. that is because you keep making things up

here is what you said:



we all know we are saved by the blood of Christ

again, if you actually believed that, most of your posts would not exist

you are not sinless and you lie every single time you say that you are, while falsely accusing others of your own behavior
You can know you are saved by His Blood without being covered in It.
 

Blik

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We all know we are Saved Via The Blood of CHRIST ...none of you seem to care what that actually means.
When we are saved and have Christ in our hearts we accept each other.
  • Romans 15:7 Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring glory to God. Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God. Therefore, accept each other just as Christ has accepted you so that God will be given glory.
 
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When we are saved and have Christ in our hearts we accept each other.
  • Romans 15:7 Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring glory to God. Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God. Therefore, accept each other just as Christ has accepted you so that God will be given glory.
Sorry, no, i won't accept sin.
 

Nehemiah6

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You are claiming Jews are still authentic today ...you are saying JESUS didn't Fulfill the Old Covenant.
I have always maintained that Christ fulfilled the Old Covenant and also established the New Covenant. As to "authentic Jews" there is no denying that there are Jews in the world today who can trace their lineage back to one of the twelve tribes of Israel. The Sephardic Jews came from or remained in Palestine.
 

Pilgrimshope

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i didn't say that, we are not all His Children ...maybe cut sin from your life and become one.
“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭7:21-23‬ ‭

we need to believe the gospel first and let his cutting instrument into that heart of faith

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s what gages our heart and then

“A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things:

and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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I have always maintained that Christ fulfilled the Old Covenant and also established the New Covenant. As to "authentic Jews" there is no denying that there are Jews in the world today who can trace their lineage back to one of the twelve tribes of Israel. The Sephardic Jews came from or remained in Palestine.
So, to be an authentic Jew ...you don't need a Covenant, a High Priest, Atonement, or a Temple ...sounds legit.