The lie that we are sinless if we are saved

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SophieT

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Nehemiah6 said:
pittsburghjoe, you would be wise to stop posting gibberish.
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well he has branched out

since his original ops never had much attention, he has turned his attention to devouring normal threads

for example, we have these beauties:

Is scriptural human "spirit", our consciousness and perception of reality?
the 1st sentence in that op reads i know most of you won't understand this ...please send it to an atheist that knows science ...it might wake them.

actually, a simple search will illustrate the fact he spouts the same sort of rhetoric in threads all the time
 
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John146

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pittsburghjoe said:
If you are not in His Image ...you are not using His Blood.
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I'm still waiting on my flesh to be made in His image. Nothing good dwells in my flesh.

Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
 
pittsburghjoe

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John146 said:
I'm still waiting on my flesh to be made in His image. Nothing good dwells in my flesh.

Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
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You are pretending image is about physical flesh.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
They know they can't ask for forgiveness for a repeated sin ...because they know it would be mocking GOD. So they pretend the sin is automatically forgiven.


Galatians 6:7–8
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
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No
They CAN ask for forgiveness.
And revieve it.
It is limitless.

Now.
We are judged IN THIS LIFE.
Not the next.
So merry go round Believers sinning ,without repentance, get some trouble invited to them.

".... for this reason many are sick, and some sleep"
 
CherieR

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Absolutely said:
Ok
They are here in the forum.
They DO NOT EVER ask for forgiveness because they say "that is wrong"
They claim all future sins are AUTOMATICALLY forgiven.
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I haven't seen anyone here say they never ask forgiveness because it is wrong. I don't believe it is wrong to ask God for forgiveness.
 
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RichMan said:
There seems to be a lot of people on this forum that believe they are more holy and righteous that the rest of us and continually tell us about it.
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We are instructed to be overcomers.

An overcomer has overcome the world , the flesh, and the devil.
 
pittsburghjoe

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Absolutely said:
No
They CAN ask for forgiveness.
And revieve it.
It is limitless.

Now.
We are judged IN THIS LIFE.
Not the next.
So merry go round Believers sinning ,without repentance, get some trouble invited to them.

".... for this reason many are sick, and some sleep"
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i said repeated sin. It doesn't count as Repentance if you keep doing the same sin.
 
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CherieR said:
I haven't seen anyone here say they never ask forgiveness because it is wrong. I don't believe it is wrong to ask God for forgiveness.
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Yes ma'am. I understand.
But they are here.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
i said repeated sin. It doesn't count as Repentance if you keep doing the same sin.
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Nope
They can keep coming back.

There is no law on that dynamic.

Think about it.

If someone commits the same sin twice, i can use your pattern to say they can never be forgiven

That , my friend is legalism.
 
pittsburghjoe

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Absolutely said:
Nope
They can keep coming back.

There is no law on that dynamic.

Think about it.

If someone commits the same sin twice, i can use your pattern to say they can never be forgiven

That , my friend is legalism.
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::rolls eyes::

GOD knows if you are trying to clown Him. There can be a last time you do a sin. It will be from that point forward that you are actually Saved.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
They know they can't ask for forgiveness for a repeated sin ...because they know it would be mocking GOD. So they pretend the sin is automatically forgiven.


Galatians 6:7–8
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
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I would hate to be mentored by you

All saints would go to hell.

You going to tell me with a straight face you never did the same thing twice????
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
::rolls eyes::

GOD knows if you are trying to clown Him. There can be a last time you do a sin. It will be from that point forward that you are actually Saved.
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Not even partially true friend.

Pauls statement destroys that.

" I have turn such a one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that in the end he may be saved"

And

" some are saved as Through Fire they are saved but their works are burned up"
 
pittsburghjoe

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Absolutely said:
Not even partially true friend.

Pauls statement destroys that.

" I have turn such a one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that in the end he may be saved"

And

" some are saved as Through Fire they are saved but their works are burned up"
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i'm going to keep posting this until one of you reads it:


Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
i said repeated sin. It doesn't count as Repentance if you keep doing the same sin.
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Who are you sitting under?

Gods mercy is limitless

The bible says " he scourges every son he recieves"

That is because we sin..

Any rebellion, gossip, cheating, white little lies, WRONG THOUGHTS, .....AND drum roll please.... SINS OF OMISSION
Are all under the dynamic of a need for forgiveness.

Thats the thing.

You ever get in his presence???

The Holy Spirit will instantly reveal little sins hidden that MUST BE DEALT WITH.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
i'm going to keep posting this until one of you reads it:


Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
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Then paul went to hell.
 
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Absolutely said:
Nope
They can keep coming back.

There is no law on that dynamic.

Think about it.

If someone commits the same sin twice, i can use your pattern to say they can never be forgiven

That , my friend is legalism.
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^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
JESUS Lived His whole Life Sinless ...i've only been doing it for a year or so ...through Him!

Do you use the same excuse over and over again right before you sin? You gave into your animal side ...the beast.

Do you say, "oh, i have cherry picked Scripture, that i misinterpret, that says i can sin."?

Who do you think you are fooling?

You are either a Pillar of GOD'S Kingdom or you sin with self-idolatry for satan's kingdom (worldly babylon).

You are not a Child of GOD if you are sinning. HOLY SPIRIT Oil can't be in a corrupted Temple.

With JESUS as The Head of The Body of CHRIST, we use Him as a periscope to see beyond the veil of death (satan's kingdom / worldly babylon / self-idolatry).

You have no idea what i'm talking about when you have sin in your life. You eat from the wrong tree and blinded yourself.

Children of GOD can perceive The Narrow Path of SALVATION (The Kingdom of GOD / Tree of LIFE).

You pretend to be a Child ...when you are a tare. You can only handle the literal because GOD isn't Reading It to you. You are stuck on your animal side.

The whole reason this place exists if for GOD to find people His Presence can be around ...do you really think you have anything to do with that?

We are Reborn into The Body of CHRIST ...The Kingdom. What part of that statement sounds like sin is allowed?

What do you think satan is tempting you with? Obviously it is to fall out of The Holy Body ...to ruin your Image ...with some horns.

Does anyone get what it takes to actually hold The Reborn Image that SAVES?

How can JESUS Represent you on The Cross unless you have His Image (Blood)?

Do you want GOD to know you at Judgment or not?

The Garden is the mind ...temptation happens there. GOD Breathed an Image into Adam (us as a baby). sin ruins it, we need The Reborn Image CHRIST Made for us to pass this test.
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"""JESUS Lived His whole Life Sinless ...i've only been doing it for a year or so ...through Him!

Do you use the same excuse over and over again right before you sin? You gave into your animal side ...the beast."""

Well i suppose you do not know what sin is.

It is a wrong thought or two.
Wrong thinking.
It is omitting dynamics.

You have not even come close to not sinning for one year as you are claiming.
 
pittsburghjoe

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Absolutely said:
"""JESUS Lived His whole Life Sinless ...i've only been doing it for a year or so ...through Him!

Do you use the same excuse over and over again right before you sin? You gave into your animal side ...the beast."""

Well i suppose you do not know what sin is.

It is a wrong thought or two.
Wrong thinking.
It is omitting dynamics.

You have not even come close to not sinning for one year as you are claiming.
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You swat fiery darts ...you don't entertain the thoughts.


Ephesians 6:16
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.


You are attempting to give people license to sin ...watch yourself.
 
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