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Oblio

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The Coutts, Alberta truckers blockade has come to an end, due to a a false flag event. A dozen firearms, ammunition, body armor, etc., has reportedly been found by the RCMP and about 9 people have been charged with attempted murder.
The Truckers leaders closed by praying for everyone's safety, including the police, gave a round of applause for the police, and then sang O Canada. They know that if they don't withdraw voluntarily, the police can use whatever force they choose, since we are under martial law.
The Ottawa police chief has resigned.
 
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Not for long. The problem for Canada is that if these truckers don't go back to delivering goods the cities will starve and once that happens the government will collapse. They can threaten truckers hoping they will go back to work, but if they don't, seizing their bank accounts, trucks, or putting them in jail will not solve the problem, only make it worse. The same thing is going to happen in Australia, and in Europe, and also in the US. They have sowed to the wind, they will reap the whirlwind.
Under the War Measure Act, as it was called before they changed the name, they will imprison the truckers, confiscate their rigs, and find lots of people who will drive the trucks. Including, if necessary, the military. We will now see the fruit of the division sowed into our society.
 

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Under the War Measure Act, as it was called before they changed the name, they will imprison the truckers, confiscate their rigs, and find lots of people who will drive the trucks. Including, if necessary, the military. We will now see the fruit of the division sowed into our society.
sad but true for canada.
 

ZNP

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I am not disputing anything that has been said, I am simply pointing out that there is an inherent weakness in the developed world which is we need a massive logistical supply chain for our cities and this supply chain is fragile, easily disrupted. Drive on the interstate highways and you will see that 60-80% of the traffic is 18 wheelers. This is the lifeline for our major cities. This lifeline needs truck stops with their ability to service the trucks as well as provide fuel. If you don't have enough trucks, or drivers, or fuel or even tires we will see this lifeline cut.

Now what are the responses we have seen from Canada?

1. Tow trucks -- we discovered that all truckers have sympathy with truckers. The most terrifying thought for any ruler is that they give the order to tow the trucks and no one listens to them. Second of all, sure we have tow trucks that can tow 18 wheelers. However, these are distributed across the country based on need. Bring all the trucks to one city like Calgary or Washington DC and you are completely overwhelmed. In the end we didn't see this employed.

2. Ignore them -- this didn't work, it was impossible to ignore. These drivers are used to sleeping in their cabs and eating junk food on the road. Every day that they sit idle it idles factories and it results in shortages and a breakdown in the supply chain. For the drivers sitting in a protest for a week or two is like taking a vacation whereas for the economy it is extremely expensive.

3. Threaten them with fines and prison. This is the "cut off your nose to spite your face" approach. If you arrest and fine the truckers you don't solve the problem which is not enough truckers delivering goods. If anything you exacerbate it.

4. Replace the truckers. I have heard this a lot. I recently drove back and forth from NYC to South Dakota twice. That is a lot of interstate driving and many people told me they could not do that driving. But it is the kind of driving that a trucker driving an 18 wheeler does. My point is that I would not try being a trucker driving 18 wheelers. This is an extremely difficult and dangerous job that requires a huge amount of training (on one leg we passed 13 accidents including a number of jackknifed trucks from snow and ice) The idea of filling these cabs with 18 year olds is terrifying, you will have massive accidents all over the nation. This is not just about driving on a big interstate, you have to come off the interstate and make your deliveries inside of cities. That is incredibly difficult and add to that these trucks can have very dangerous cargo like the gasoline tankers, etc. (For example I am a high school science teacher, you can say you will "replace me" but I know what that means. You will throw some poor sucker who is not well trained into a class that will eat him alive and he will quit after the first year, if not sooner. Schools have a hard enough time getting decent teachers in normal times, force 10% to quit and you will have a crisis. Same thing with guys who drive 18 wheelers).

But guess what, the whole world has seen this. They have seen the insults, the threats, the ridiculous mandates and if I know anything about Deplorables they have the same attitude towards the elites that the elites have towards them. They are looking for an opportunity to put the elites back in their place. Truckers in Canada, US, Europe and Australia are all doing the same thing. Canada, the US, Australia and Europe represent the vast majority of the agricultural exporters. So then the entire world is impacted.

Now imagine a the disruption to the supply chain results in shortages in fuel so that even though there are drivers who would drive the lack of fuel impacts them, or there are shortages in tires and other key parts. Some truckers won't be able to drive because of this, others will drive with trucks that are dangerous resulting in more accidents resulting in more disruptions. Then what are you going to prioritize? Food which is perishable to countries suffering famine or some truck parts?

If I can figure all this out then you know the truckers knew all of this months ago. They love winning this game.
 
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I believe our globalist errand boy is capable of incredible feats of stupidity! Remember his election promise was, "Vote me in and I'll legalize marijuana." At least he kept his promise.
 

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There is a basic rule here and that is you have to have a red line. You cannot look to others, you have to know in your heart what your red line is. Here is the most important point of the Christian walk, we have to know the shepherds voice. The Lord said my sheep hear my voice and they follow me. This is why I think everything that is happening is under the Lord's sovereignty, it reveals who His sheep are. These are the ones who hear his voice and follow Him. The numbers don't matter, all that matters is that you hear the Lord's voice and follow Him.

 
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Guess what they didn't tell you?
 

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I am not disputing anything that has been said, I am simply pointing out that there is an inherent weakness in the developed world which is we need a massive logistical supply chain for our cities and this supply chain is fragile, easily disrupted. Drive on the interstate highways and you will see that 60-80% of the traffic is 18 wheelers. This is the lifeline for our major cities. This lifeline needs truck stops with their ability to service the trucks as well as provide fuel. If you don't have enough trucks, or drivers, or fuel or even tires we will see this lifeline cut.

Now what are the responses we have seen from Canada?

1. Tow trucks -- we discovered that all truckers have sympathy with truckers. The most terrifying thought for any ruler is that they give the order to tow the trucks and no one listens to them. Second of all, sure we have tow trucks that can tow 18 wheelers. However, these are distributed across the country based on need. Bring all the trucks to one city like Calgary or Washington DC and you are completely overwhelmed. In the end we didn't see this employed.

2. Ignore them -- this didn't work, it was impossible to ignore. These drivers are used to sleeping in their cabs and eating junk food on the road. Every day that they sit idle it idles factories and it results in shortages and a breakdown in the supply chain. For the drivers sitting in a protest for a week or two is like taking a vacation whereas for the economy it is extremely expensive.

3. Threaten them with fines and prison. This is the "cut off your nose to spite your face" approach. If you arrest and fine the truckers you don't solve the problem which is not enough truckers delivering goods. If anything you exacerbate it.

4. Replace the truckers. I have heard this a lot. I recently drove back and forth from NYC to South Dakota twice. That is a lot of interstate driving and many people told me they could not do that driving. But it is the kind of driving that a trucker driving an 18 wheeler does. My point is that I would not try being a trucker driving 18 wheelers. This is an extremely difficult and dangerous job that requires a huge amount of training (on one leg we passed 13 accidents including a number of jackknifed trucks from snow and ice) The idea of filling these cabs with 18 year olds is terrifying, you will have massive accidents all over the nation. This is not just about driving on a big interstate, you have to come off the interstate and make your deliveries inside of cities. That is incredibly difficult and add to that these trucks can have very dangerous cargo like the gasoline tankers, etc. (For example I am a high school science teacher, you can say you will "replace me" but I know what that means. You will throw some poor sucker who is not well trained into a class that will eat him alive and he will quit after the first year, if not sooner. Schools have a hard enough time getting decent teachers in normal times, force 10% to quit and you will have a crisis. Same thing with guys who drive 18 wheelers).

But guess what, the whole world has seen this. They have seen the insults, the threats, the ridiculous mandates and if I know anything about Deplorables they have the same attitude towards the elites that the elites have towards them. They are looking for an opportunity to put the elites back in their place. Truckers in Canada, US, Europe and Australia are all doing the same thing. Canada, the US, Australia and Europe represent the vast majority of the agricultural exporters. So then the entire world is impacted.

Now imagine a the disruption to the supply chain results in shortages in fuel so that even though there are drivers who would drive the lack of fuel impacts them, or there are shortages in tires and other key parts. Some truckers won't be able to drive because of this, others will drive with trucks that are dangerous resulting in more accidents resulting in more disruptions. Then what are you going to prioritize? Food which is perishable to countries suffering famine or some truck parts?

If I can figure all this out then you know the truckers knew all of this months ago. They love winning this game.
You may be right , time will tell but the truckers have to make a living, the government is seizing any donations and are threatening to freeze bank accounts. We have a PM who doesnt care about the people of Canada all he cares about is his own fat bank account and government salary.
 

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You may be right , time will tell but the truckers have to make a living, the government is seizing any donations and are threatening to freeze bank accounts. We have a PM who doesnt care about the people of Canada all he cares about is his own fat bank account and government salary.
I learned long ago that the wealthy are the most sensitive to money whereas the less money you make the less you need. I lived a month once on $1 a day.
 
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The truckers convoy leaders have been arrested. Back in the '70s, the leaders of the left stood against the rich warmongers. Now that they've grown up, they are the rich warmongers. Along with being totalitarians. They are hard-core sellouts. Message to the far-left..."Wake up, you're being used!"
 

ZNP

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The truckers convoy leaders have been arrested. Back in the '70s, the leaders of the left stood against the rich warmongers. Now that they've grown up, they are the rich warmongers. Along with being totalitarians. They are hard-core sellouts. Message to the far-left..."Wake up, you're being used!"
Message to Social Justice Warriors, there is a price to pay. Anyone who wants to imitate Martin Luther king Jr., or Mandela, or Gandhi should be aware that there is a price to pay.
 

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The truckers convoy leaders have been arrested. Back in the '70s, the leaders of the left stood against the rich warmongers. Now that they've grown up, they are the rich warmongers. Along with being totalitarians. They are hard-core sellouts. Message to the far-left..."Wake up, you're being used!"
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First they gave us the plague, now they are trying to starve us to death! Nazis...especially that Jewish woman! Trudeau should be made emperor-for-life. He's a genius!
 

ZNP

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First they gave us the plague, now they are trying to starve us to death! Nazis...especially that Jewish woman! Trudeau should be made emperor-for-life. He's a genius!
Emperor of a condemned house that is about to go up in flames
 
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I'll bring the marsh-mellows! Lol
 

Nehemiah6

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Under the War Measure Act, as it was called before they changed the name, they will imprison the truckers, confiscate their rigs...
Of course it is now the Emergencies Act (instead of the War Measures Act) and (a) it still needs to be approved by Parliament and (b) at least two civil liberties associations have filed lawsuits against Trudeau. It is telling that the sitting of Parliament today was cancelled on a pretext, since a decision needs to be made within 7 days. However the actions taken recently against the truckers and their supporters ARE ALL ILLEGAL at this point. Just like illegal immigrants walking into Canada on a daily basis under Trudeau's policies. The rule of law has been abolished in both Canada and the USA. Let's hope that the judges who will handle these lawsuits have some integrity and do their jobs by declaring this use of the Emergencies Act as ILLEGAL.
 
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Do-go knowingly calling that Jewish woman MP a Nazi...if he was any more far-left, he's fall off of the earth...that would make my day!