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Heaven_Bound said:
The important part of this Article ^:
In fact, historian Josephus Flavius records the event in which Vespasian took for himself these items specifically as his special treasures for safekeeping, including an ancient Torah scroll.
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Thanks for sharing this!
 
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We believe whatever the Tanakh and New Testament explains to us about God!
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Jesus is the Only Truth, the Only Way, and the Only Life :). Those who read from the "Torah" could not see who their own Messiah was as many do not today. Why? Do they have the Word of God from God Himself? Because they have yet they do not hear.
 
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IM GONNA SHOUT AT YOU NOW,CAUSE YOU ARENT LISTENING!

I BELIEVE IN A CREATOR OF ALL INCLUDING TIME.

FUTHERMORE I KNOW WHAT THE WORD SAYS WITHOUT MANS INTERFERENCE.

DONT PRESUME TO KNOW ANYONE NOR WHAT THEY KNOW NOR THEIR STANDING IN GOD.


HEAR ME NOW?
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I presume only what is presented in this conversation. And if it is not accurate, I WILL NEVER PRESUME THEY KNOW THE TRUTH!

AM I CLEAR, NOW?
 
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Jesus is the Only Truth, the Only Way, and the Only Life :). Those who read from the "Torah" could not see who their own Messiah was as many do not today. Why? Do they have the Word of God from God Himself? Because they have yet they do not hear.
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Reading from the Torah has nothing to do with my Faith in Christ!
 
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Magenta said:
They have been around throughout history. Genetic mutations/aberrations seem a likely answer. Scripture does NOT say.


Not a point of contention. However, clearly there were men of God before the crucifixion of Christ. Just as there were His enemies.
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Scripture specifically states the source of the giants.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

WHEN the sons of God came unto the daughters of men…their offspring were giants in the earth.
 
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Heaven_Bound said:
I presume only what is presented in this conversation. And if it is not accurate, I WILL NEVER PRESUME THEY KNOW THE TRUTH!

AM I CLEAR, NOW?
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You are nobody's judge,God is.
Presumption is at best a quess!
 
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hmm, that's funny because it speaks of HIM from the very Beginning. :)
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Amen!

I know that!

But I prefer the Tanakh Version over the later English Version because it is clearer in description.
 
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We don't know that because nowhere does it tell us the Torah was lost between Moses, 1st Temple, and 2nd Temple.
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Rabbinic writings state that the Oral Torah was given to Moses at Mount Sinai, which, according to the tradition of Orthodox Judaism, occurred in 1312 BCE. The final Torah is widely seen as a product of the Persian period (539–333 BCE, probably 450–350 BCE). A few fragments of texts from around this time period have survived, but the oldest complete Torah only dates to the 11th or 12th century.
 
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Amen!

I know that!

But I prefer the Tanakh Version over the later English Version because it is clearer in the description.
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a preference is not authoritative over other translations as we clearly know. None are the original. but because of witness and truth, we have what God wanted us to have to speak enough for righteous living and appropriate worship. None of us attacked the Torah but you attack the Penetuah and English translations. Are you more saved than those who have the bible in the NIV or KJV? Does Jesus listen to you more because you use Yahusa instead of Jesus?
 
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Magenta said:
Rabbinic writings state that the Oral Torah was given to Moses at Mount Sinai, which, according to the tradition of Orthodox Judaism, occurred in 1312 BCE. The final Torah is widely seen as a product of the Persian period (539–333 BCE, probably 450–350 BCE). A few fragments of texts from around this time period have survived, but the oldest complete Torah only dates to the 11th or 12th century.
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isn't it cool they have the 70 ad version in Rome?
 
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Heaven_Bound said:
How am i judging by reading what is posted that does not align with what the Word of God states?
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You prefer the Tanakh version,myself King James.

God speaks to his people through everything he has created.

Ok maybe better word than judge is CONDEMN.

Are you a PREFECT appointed by God.

If people are out of line so to speak on God's word it is the Holy Ghost's function to get them on track
 
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a preference is not authoritative over other translations as we clearly know. None are the original. but because of witness and truth, we have what God wanted us to have to speak enough for righteous living and appropriate worship. None of us attacked the Torah but you attack the Penetuah and English translations. Are you more saved than those who have the bible in the NIV or KJV? Does Jesus listen to you more because you use Yahusa instead of Jesus?
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i need to go for now but will answer this soon
 
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