Russia preparing for war

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shittim

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I believe the rep[orts that Stalin himself planned on invading Europe and that was the impetus to attack Russia, not excusing in any way either side, neither could have been walking in His plan for their lives.
Here is video from Ukraine
 
Aidan1

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ZNP said:
I don't care if you like Trump or you don't like Trump. I don't disagree that Trump is filled with faults nor do I have an issue with those who think he was a great president. Either way you are in a different realm than I am in.

We are in an age where Baal is being worshipped, where evil is good and good is evil. This is not because of Trump, you can't blame him for the world worshipping Baal nor can you blame him for not bringing in a revival where the whole world turns to the Lord. So as far as I am concerned he is simply another man's servant. It is not for me to judge another man's servant.

My focus is on speaking the truth that might bring people to repentance and turning to the Lord Jesus. There is no salvation in any name other than Jesus.

We are now in free fall. People were clueless when they voted in Biden. People were clueless when they ignored the election fraud and the lies and the censorship and the corruption of leaders like Fauci and a Bioweapon. They were clueless when they went along with shutting down the economy in order to bankrupt the middle class. They directed the entire economy to the tech giants like Amazon.com and they took it away from the backbone of democracy, and yet the whole world went along with this? Seriously, you can go into a big box store like Costco but a little 5 and dime store cannot have 3 people inside? They go along with all the churches being shut down but the Casinos staying open? Fine, everyone going along with this is nothing but a blatant liar and their hypocrisy is on display for all to see.

Well there are consequences for choosing a murderer over the Lord of Life. Russia invading Ukraine is one consequence. More people coming across our border each month than went into Europe on D day is another consequence. Worldwide inflation is a third consequence. Embarrassing defeat in Afghanistan is yet another consequence. But know this, things do not get better, they get worse. Russia does not stop with Ukraine, Iran and Russia and a whole bunch of Islamic nations will attack Israel, China will attack Taiwan and the global elites will be happy.

They will be happy as people die and world population approaches their goal of 500 million.

They will be happy with the destruction that will require a rebuilding and a borrowing that will make them even more powerful.

They will be happy when the whole world begs them for a powerful world leader that will bring peace and security and so the world will beg for the AntiChrist.

Every action has a consequence, and we are now in an age of consequences.

Many believers will wake up to this when they are faced with choosing between worshipping the beast or having their head cut off. Consequences.

Proverbs 1:20
Wisdom crieth aloud in the street;
She uttereth her voice in the broad places;
21 She crieth [g]in the chief place of concourse;
At the entrance of the gates,
In the city, she uttereth her words:
22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity?
And scoffers delight them in scoffing,
And fools hate knowledge?
23 Turn you at my reproof:
Behold, I will pour out my spirit upon you;
I will make known my words unto you.
24 Because I have called, and ye have refused;
I have stretched out my hand, and no man hath regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel,
And would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh in the day of your calamity;
I will mock when your fear cometh;
27 When your fear cometh as [h]a storm,
And your calamity cometh on as a whirlwind;
When distress and anguish come upon you.
28 Then will they call upon me, but I will not answer;
They will seek me [i]diligently, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge,
And did not choose the fear of Jehovah,
30 They would none of my counsel,
They despised all my reproof.
31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way,
And be filled with their own devices.
32 For the backsliding of the simple shall slay them,
And the careless ease of fools shall destroy them.
33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell securely,
And shall be quiet without fear of evil.
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We are not in time of consequences. In this we are since the World was createt. We are in the Endtime! The most people in this world dont count with that reality. But we do.
So then you should not tell me to have a mental Problem if i dont agree with you or what Trump says and does.
Trump was a Tool used from God, so as Putin and others are, so that can come true what we read in the book of revealation.
 
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Magenta said:
Because there is no such fallacy. It is a legitimate question which you chose to dodge.
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It is a fallacy. Like that which you again example there. The The Tu quoque Fallacy.

Your prior post is an example of the Red herring fallacy.
 
Magenta

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wintersrain said:
It is a fallacy. Like that which you again example there. The The Tu quoque Fallacy.

Your prior post is an example of the Red herring fallacy.
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I did not assert that your argument must be invalid because it is inconsistent with your past words and actions..

If it was a red herring, it was yours, since you commented on people criticizing the country
of others, which I then questioned you about, making it relevant to what you said.

That makes your assertions false.
 
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shittim

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you are the only on who has used the word, "worry".
His Own aren't worried.
 
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Aidan1 said:
We are not in time of consequences. In this we are since the World was createt. We are in the Endtime! The most people in this world dont count with that reality. But we do.
So then you should not tell me to have a mental Problem if i dont agree with you or what Trump says and does.
Trump was a Tool used from God, so as Putin and others are, so that can come true what we read in the book of revealation.
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Shout it from the rooftops! Birth pains, birth pains brother!
Just remember... God's actual judgments are poured out, one at a time, upon the entire world.
 
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Who are we to blame each other when we can only judge in retrospect...
Prophecy is the proof of God's word. All is according to God's will as prophesied.
Let not your hearts be troubled :cool:
 
Nehemiah6

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Gideon300 said:
You might remember that Biden was voted in, like it or not. You can vote him out next election.
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There is a huge difference between being voted in and STEALING the election. And that is the real source of all the problems. Seventeen states wanted the Supreme Court to investigate the theft of that election, and the Supreme Court refused to do the right thing. There is tons of evidence in several states that the election results were fraudulently changed to give Biden the victory.
 
A-Sword-Cometh

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Behold, A Sword Cometh. It is plainly seen that Lord God has drawn out his terrible gleaming Sword against the generations of shame. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ, mighty and powerful and just in his judgements is he!
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
There is a huge difference between being voted in and STEALING the election. And that is the real source of all the problems. Seventeen states wanted the Supreme Court to investigate the theft of that election, and the Supreme Court refused to do the right thing. There is tons of evidence in several states that the election results were fraudulently changed to give Biden the victory.
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I still can't believe Obama was elected... TWICE! :confused:
 
ZNP

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Magenta said:
I don't care if you like Trump or you don't like Trump. I don't disagree that Trump is filled with faults nor do I have an issue with those who think he was a great president. So how exactly am I in a different realm than you are in this regard?
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Donald Trump is not an issue to me. He had no influence on my becoming a Christian or on my Christian walk. I have been a Christians for 50 years and during that time I have had many wonderful experiences. At most I can point to a few of those experiences that happened in 1 year and say that Trump had some influence over them. I went to a few stop the steal rallies, joined prayer meetings, and had a very good experience following the Lord. 1 year represents 2% of my Christian life and I only went to 6 of those rallies and Trump was only at one of them, the Jan 6 rally. Even so I would only give him about 20% credit for that event as I attended 4 prayer meetings while there where he was not there. That means 99.6% of my Christian life and experiences have absolutely nothing to do with Trump.

If Trump is elected I see that as the Lord's sovereignty, if Trump is not elected I see that also as the Lord's sovereignty, if the election is stolen then just like Mike Lindell I see that as the Lord's sovereignty to wake us up.

I also do not ever, not before, not now, see salvation coming in any name other than Jesus.

My issue with Aidan is not that he said something about Trump that was bad or good, my issue is that he is trying to make this thread and this discussion about Trump. This is idiotic. I have voted in every presidential election since Jimmy Carter vs Ronald Reagan. I do that because I am a US citizen and see it as a responsibility of being a good citizen. That does not mean my Christian walk or the leading from the Lord has anything to do with who is or who is not President of the US, never has, so when someone living in Germany tries to say that it does I can only conclude that he has some kind of syndrome. These are the words of someone who has been brain washed.

Now you implied that I "idolized Trump". That is patently false. Find a post of mine that idolizes Trump. If you cannot find such an offending post then your post is slanderous. You slander me with a lie. I have not slandered you. That is how we differ.
 
ZNP

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Aidan1 said:
We are not in time of consequences. In this we are since the World was createt. We are in the Endtime! The most people in this world dont count with that reality. But we do.
So then you should not tell me to have a mental Problem if i dont agree with you or what Trump says and does.
Trump was a Tool used from God, so as Putin and others are, so that can come true what we read in the book of revealation.
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You are brain washed. Trump has nothing to do with this thread. The fact that you keep bringing him up indicates you are either trying to bring in a straw man argument which would make you deceitful, or you are brainwashed and actually think this is about him. So then either sin is at the door, or sin is already in the house. Either way it is a problem that you should deal with. I hope you will seek help and counseling.
 
ZNP

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