what are your thoughts of Apostle Kathryn Krick

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Lafftur

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There are no Apostles after the 12 (Paul is the 12th) who were directly, personally, visibally chosen by Yeshua Ha Moshiach.

There are only apostles who are elders in the Truth of the Word.

Religion and religious people are not truth and do not represent truth even though they may quote and speak scripture = see Matthew 4:1-11 and John ch5

Any "truth" that is contrary to "it is written" is not truth.

REPENT while their is still time = John 17
Saying "There are no more Apostles after the 12" is a doctrine of man and devils that are trying to shut down the fivefold ministry that God has ordained to minister, edify and build up the Body of Christ on the Earth.

No wonder God has put the title of Apostle on Kathryn Krick and filled her with His power and authority in the Name of Jesus Christ! God has had enough of man and devils shutting down His Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist, Pastors and Teachers. Many more are being raised up and the Body of Christ WILL BE READY at the Lord's return, amen and amen!
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Saying "There are no more Apostles after the 12" is a doctrine of man and devils that are trying to shut down the fivefold ministry that God has ordained to minister, edify and build up the Body of Christ on the Earth.

No wonder God has put the title of Apostle on Kathryn Krick and filled her with His power and authority in the Name of Jesus Christ! God has had enough of man and devils shutting down His Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist, Pastors and Teachers. Many more are being raised up and the Body of Christ WILL BE READY at the Lord's return, amen and amen! :love:(y)
 
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The Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit rebuke you.
You have preached 'doctrines of devils' by previously boasting and promoting the demonic engineered vaxx is like preaching the gospel of Jesus.

God gave apostles prophets pastors evangelists and teachers for the edification of the Body of Christ = Ephesians 4:11

You are in willful ignorance of the Scriptures and do not understand that there were, and only ever will be, 12 Personally and Visibly Chosen Apostles by the LORD.

All apostles who follow are not Apostles of the 12 and must submit to the teachings of Christ and the Original Apostles who wrote, confirmed and completed the Holy Scripture for the Body of Christ under the Inspiration and Obedience to the Holy Spirit.

Religion and religious people are not truth and do not represent truth even though they may quote and speak scripture = see Matthew 4:1-11 and John ch5

Any "truth" that is contrary to "it is written" is not truth.

REPENT while their is still time = John 17
 

CS1

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Thank you @Artios1 for sharing... and thank you too @CS1

It's becoming more and more apparent to me that Christians, even spirit filled can have demons in their heart (emotions and will) if they let Satan fill their heart like Satan filled Ananias and Sapphira's hearts. Their hearts became defiled when envy and jealousy took root in them, they wanted to look good in the eyes of man instead of the eyes of God.

When our hearts become defiled we can easily be led astray and grieve, quench, resist, and neglect the Holy Spirit.

We need to give more diligence to guarding our hearts and not letting any root of bitterness, resentment, unforgiveness, envy, jealousy, doubt, unbelief, fear of man more than fear of God.... These things defile our hearts which give a place to Satan and his demons, devils, lying spirits, evil spirits, everything demonic.

The Holy Spirit dwells in our innermost being - our spirit and no demon can go there. However, in our soul which is our mind, will and emotions.... this is the devils playground if we refuse to guard our minds and our hearts (combination of our emotions and our will).

Our Body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit but, we all know that Temples can become defiled....:unsure:

The devil is prowling around seeking who he can devour..... we need to be full of love for God, others and ourselves. Renew our minds with the Word of God and Holy Spirit of God; and guard our hearts with all diligence! :love:(y)

I do love meditating on God's Word and fellowshipping with the Holy Spirit throughout the day but, I repent for not fasting and praying as I probably should... Fasting and praying strengthens us so much spiritually.
HI Sister Laffur,


Now, Peter said, "Satan filled their hearts that you have lied to the Holy Spirit".

The statement is saying they were influenced to lie by the devil but they choose to do so. One who is possessed has no liberty they are bound. Those who are possessed are not in the decision-making business they are completely under the control of an evil spirit.

This s not the case with Ananias and Sapphira. IF they were demon-possessed Peter would have cast them out not saying YOU have lied to the Holy Spirit.

The term in your heart means they were tempted by the devil to keep back the money and they obeyed. They made a personal choice. They allowed the devil to fill their heart with this they were not overtaken by a demon.
 

ResidentAlien

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That's an easy question.... false apostle, false prophet, false teacher, false anything exalts themselves and will not give glory to God.
Who, specifically, is an apostle or prophet who doesn't give God glory in your opinion? Can you name just one?
 

CS1

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Who, specifically, is an apostle or prophet who doesn't give God glory in your opinion? Can you name just one?
the title represents the work the person does or is supposed to be doing. Paul said in Eph 4 and in 1cor 12 the apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors/teachers have been appointed for the perfecting of the saints.
 

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HI Sister Laffur,


Now, Peter said, "Satan filled their hearts that you have lied to the Holy Spirit".

The statement is saying they were influenced to lie by the devil but they choose to do so. One who is possessed has no liberty they are bound. Those who are possessed are not in the decision-making business they are completely under the control of an evil spirit.

This s not the case with Ananias and Sapphira. IF they were demon-possessed Peter would have cast them out not saying YOU have lied to the Holy Spirit.

The term in your heart means they were tempted by the devil to keep back the money and they obeyed. They made a personal choice. They allowed the devil to fill their heart with this they were not overtaken by a demon.
The filling of the hearts of Ananias and Sapphire was not the keeping back of their own money - it was the lying to the Holy Spirit - because when they lied to Peter they lied to the Apostolic authority given to him to ask them the question and to prophetically know the inference of asking. If either of them had told the truth they would have lived.

When Peter was in the gate and spoke saying gold and silver I have not but what I have I give you - then gave to the man the power to walk through prophetic speech. Acts 3:6. Giving and not merely speaking. Apostolic and not merely prophetic. Yet even the prophet can be examined because Elijah cursed Ahab and his generations including the way Ahab would die, so when Ahab repented of the death of Naboth God Himself drew that fact to the attention of Elijah and then moderated the curse delivered by Elijah. We should all stop babbling and start trembling. This woman in the video is a blasphemer and she will be judged for her reckless claims if she does not repent. Far from being the beginning of a new work of God as @Lafftur implies - it is a very old ambition and Simon the sorcerer had it and Peter the Apostle dealt with it. How do you believe that God will deal with this sorceric ambition and madness today? You don't do you? You are only concerned about demons. @Lafftur advised @ResidentAlien to view one of her so-called revival in the park videos. I have viewed her testimony videos and what is singularly self evident is a woman who is driven by self centred needs - yet like so many who are manipulators of others - she is driven by her own sense of how she gave up to God what she most treasured - and from God received her anointing in return from the hand of a so-called prophet. Her entire rhetoric is driven by a sense of self worth - yet it is predicated in an endless psychological framework of how important she is - because she doesn't predicate to her own importance as a woman. She will be judged either here and now - by which cost she may be delivered - or when the kingdom comes - when she may find herself naked and ashamed. But the Lord will not be mocked without cost - even when the means of mocking Him is a mistaken sense of self worth established by a claim to being worthless. You say you have charged her to answer the issue of demonic possession of believers - then in that she will also be given a chance to repent of the whole show.
 

presidente

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There are no Apostles after the 12 (Paul is the 12th) who were directly, personally, visibally chosen by Yeshua Ha Moshiach.
Judas was dead, but Paul wrote in I Corinthians 12 that Jesus appeared to the 12 before appearing to him. So he did not count himself as one of the 12. He may implicitly be acknowledging Matthias in this passage.

Paul was apostle to the Gentiles. The 12 would sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel.

Acts 14:4 and 14:14 call both Paul and Barnabas 'apostles.' Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy refer to themselves 'as apostles of Christ' in I Thessalonians 2.
 

CS1

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The filling of the hearts of Ananias and Sapphire was not the keeping back of their own money - it was the lying to the Holy Spirit - because when they lied to Peter they lied to the Apostolic authority given to him to ask them the question and to prophetically know the inference of asking. If either of them had told the truth they would have lived.

When Peter was in the gate and spoke saying gold and silver I have not but what I have I give you - then gave to the man the power to walk through prophetic speech. Acts 3:6. Giving and not merely speaking. Apostolic and not merely prophetic. Yet even the prophet can be examined because Elijah cursed Ahab and his generations including the way Ahab would die, so when Ahab repented of the death of Naboth God Himself drew that fact to the attention of Elijah and then moderated the curse delivered by Elijah. We should all stop babbling and start trembling. This woman in the video is a blasphemer and she will be judged for her reckless claims if she does not repent. Far from being the beginning of a new work of God as @Lafftur implies - it is a very old ambition and Simon the sorcerer had it and Peter the Apostle dealt with it. How do you believe that God will deal with this sorceric ambition and madness today? You don't do you? You are only concerned about demons. @Lafftur advised @ResidentAlien to view one of her so-called revival in the park videos. I have viewed her testimony videos and what is singularly self evident is a woman who is driven by self centred needs - yet like so many who are manipulators of others - she is driven by her own sense of how she gave up to God what she most treasured - and from God received her anointing in return from the hand of a so-called prophet. Her entire rhetoric is driven by a sense of self worth - yet it is predicated in an endless psychological framework of how important she is - because she doesn't predicate to her own importance as a woman. She will be judged either here and now - by which cost she may be delivered - or when the kingdom comes - when she may find herself naked and ashamed. But the Lord will not be mocked without cost - even when the means of mocking Him is a mistaken sense of self worth established by a claim to being worthless. You say you have charged her to answer the issue of demonic possession of believers - then in that she will also be given a chance to repent of the whole show.

The text says they lied to the Holy Spirit which was keeping back the money they promised. It was not Peter they were giving the money to. Nothing you have said was a correction it is another application that the text provides.

Also, demons do not possess chritians. What I do know is no one in the word of God who has been saved is also demon-possessed. The context of each biblical story you referred to must be kept in the context to which it is.

Elijah
Simon The sorcerer
both are two different context
 

presidente

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Also, demons do not possess chritians. What I do know is no one in the word of God who has been saved is also demon-possessed. The context of each biblical story you referred to must be kept in the context to which it is.
Satan filled Ananias' heart. It doesn't say whether he put stuff in there or went in there himself.

Making a doctrinal stance out of what the Bible does not say does not always work out that well. When trains were knew, someone said something along the lines that if man were intended to go over 12 miles an hour, it would have been recorded in the Holy Scriptures.

The Bible doesn't say that people can get into airplanes and fly. Should we say it is therefore impossible for this to happen?

Christians who are walking holy and justly with the Lord should not fear being demonized. Someone who does not forgive his brother may be delivered to the tormenters. What if a believer falls into sin and starts doing witchcraft or worshipping idols? Does his previous repentance and confession of faith make him immune from demonic activity?
 

CS1

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Satan filled Ananias' heart. It doesn't say whether he put stuff in there or went in there himself.

Making a doctrinal stance out of what the Bible does not say does not always work out that well. When trains were knew, someone said something along the lines that if man were intended to go over 12 miles an hour, it would have been recorded in the Holy Scriptures.

The Bible doesn't say that people can get into airplanes and fly. Should we say it is therefore impossible for this to happen?

Christians who are walking holy and justly with the Lord should not fear being demonized. Someone who does not forgive his brother may be delivered to the tormenters. What if a believer falls into sin and starts doing witchcraft or worshipping idols? Does his previous repentance and confession of faith make him immune from demonic activity?

I am not sure what you are saying BUT IF a born-again Christian washed in the Blood of Jesus can be possessed by a demon when the word Of teaches that Light cannot Fellowship with darkness. And Jesus is Supreme which a believer is sealed with the Holy Spirit is:

"Making a doctrinal stance out of what the Bible does not say"

That statement could be no further from the truth. IF saying a Christian can be demon-possessed and to sum it up as to say:

"that people can get into airplanes and fly." and is somehow contextual to the statement that a person who is saved can be taken by a demon, You do not know your bible. And the God of the Bible and our Lord is incapable of Keeping us who HE chosen is not the God of the Bible.
 
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Is it a sin to make videos private?

What about turning off comments when you are overloaded with more comments than you can read?
is it a sin to say they are doing that?
 

CS1

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is it a sin to say they are doing that?

some of these here would argue the devil can be saved no matter what scripture you provide. I guess some can just look over their shoulder when being Judged by God and say the devil made me do it and possessed.
 
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SophieT

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some of these here would argue the devil can be saved no matter what scripture you provide. I guess some can just look over their shoulder when being Judged by God and say the devil made me do it and possessed.
so many seem to think that scripture is rightly divided by whatever you believe and is convenient to you

nobody can say well I didn't know....I was busy having my itching ears scratched and didn't hear that :geek:
 

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The text says they lied to the Holy Spirit which was keeping back the money they promised. It was not Peter they were giving the money to. Nothing you have said was a correction it is another application that the text provides.

Also, demons do not possess chritians. What I do know is no one in the word of God who has been saved is also demon-possessed. The context of each biblical story you referred to must be kept in the context to which it is.

Elijah
Simon The sorcerer
both are two different context
But I no more wrote in a claim to a defined contextual meaning than I wrote in a contradiction to what you yourself said. Fractured context may seem preferable to yourself as you lay your meaning down - but that is chiefly because you insist that the term apostle expressed as a linguistic term - means sent out one. So it does - yet Cathryn Krick cites her own meaning and she expresses her own meaning as she does - in that predicative to a spiritual expression - then what I said was the truth of the matter. Whether you receive it or not she is sorceric and if you knew what sorcery was - as I do seeing that I was once such a man - you would know her meaning also. But you wish to predicate your meaning to a single implication and a doctrine that is not linguistically sustained in Scripture seeing as the claim that Christians cannot be possessed is not expressly stated - and yet you are willing to allow a clear wound to fester in others - both on this thread and in those whom this woman is influencing - because you assert that there are women apostles when the Scripture no more upholds that than it denies it.

Context in presence of living souls who take the name of Christ is never as simple as saying that because the Scripture says nothing about whether a woman can be an apostle - permitting you to support her claim - and yet uphold another claim (your own) that a Christian cannot be possessed because it is not evident in the Scripture. Neither are women apostles proved either other than to assert a linguistic exchange taken from the Greek οιτινες εισιν επισημοι εν τοις αποστολοις as cited in Romans 16:7.

Acts 1:21-26 sets the qualification of the replacement of Judas and so the question is whether Cathryn Krick asserts that she qualifies in that meaning or else in a similar meaning of the Apostle Paul. And the clear meaning of her own testimony is that she qualifies in the same predicate as Paul, insofar as her use of the term αποστολοις (apostle) is grounded in a claim to having given up her own desires to which sacrifice God appointed her an Apostle by the hand of a prophet. This present ministry she now leads is the fruit of that appointment and anointing. I have no interest in Kathryn Krick - and neither her claims. But I am saying what I can discern and understand from her claims. You are simply trying to assert that a Christian cannot be possessed.
 
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Judas was dead, but Paul wrote in I Corinthians 12 that Jesus appeared to the 12 before appearing to him. So he did not count himself as one of the 12. He may implicitly be acknowledging Matthias in this passage.

Paul was apostle to the Gentiles. The 12 would sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel.

Acts 14:4 and 14:14 call both Paul and Barnabas 'apostles.' Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy refer to themselves 'as apostles of Christ' in I Thessalonians 2.
Matthias was not Specifically and Personally and Visibly chosen by Christ.

BEFORE the outpouring of the Holy Spirit Matthias was chosen by casting lots.

Acts 1:24-26 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

The LORD chose Paul = Acts chapter 9

As Saul drew near to Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him.
He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?”
“Who are You, Lord?” Saul asked.
“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” He replied.
“Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”
 

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Matthias was not Specifically and Personally and Visibly chosen by Christ.

BEFORE the outpouring of the Holy Spirit Matthias was chosen by casting lots.
This is true! The apostles acted after being instructed by Jesus to wait.
 

CS1

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But I no more wrote in a claim to a defined contextual meaning than I wrote in a contradiction to what you yourself said. Fractured context may seem preferable to yourself as you lay your meaning down - but that is chiefly because you insist that the term apostle expressed as a linguistic term - means sent out one. So it does - yet Cathryn Krick cites her own meaning and she expresses her own meaning as she does - in that predicative to a spiritual expression - then what I said was the truth of the matter. Whether you receive it or not she is sorceric and if you knew what sorcery was - as I do seeing that I was once such a man - you would know her meaning also. But you wish to predicate your meaning to a single implication and a doctrine that is not linguistically sustained in Scripture seeing as the claim that Christians cannot be possessed is not expressly stated - and yet you are willing to allow a clear wound to fester in others - both on this thread and in those whom this woman is influencing - because you assert that there are women apostles when the Scripture no more upholds that than it denies it.

Context in presence of living souls who take the name of Christ is never as simple as saying that because the Scripture says nothing about whether a woman can be an apostle - permitting you to support her claim - and yet uphold another claim (your own) that a Christian cannot be possessed because it is not evident in the Scripture. Neither are women apostles proved either other than to assert a linguistic exchange taken from the Greek οιτινες εισιν επισημοι εν τοις αποστολοις as cited in Romans 16:7.

Acts 1:21-26 sets the qualification of the replacement of Judas and so the question is whether Cathryn Krick asserts that she qualifies in that meaning or else in a similar meaning of the Apostle Paul. And the clear meaning of her own testimony is that she qualifies in the same predicate as Paul, insofar as her use of the term αποστολοις (apostle) is grounded in a claim to having given up her own desires to which sacrifice God appointed her an Apostle by the hand of a prophet. This present ministry she now leads is the fruit of that appointment and anointing. I have no interest in Kathryn Krick - and neither her claims. But I am saying what I can discern and understand from her claims. You are simply trying to assert that a Christian cannot be possessed.
FYI the text produces its own meaning we are searching for the authorial intent. You can allegorize the text all you like. I am not impressed with your ability to bloviate. Please continue to abuse Greek verbs too.