Do SDA believe Michael is God?
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How is that proof that Michael is Jesus, when the Bible calls him "Michael the Archangel" (a created being)? Yes, the SDAs (and several cults) believe falsely that Michael is Jesus. This was one of Ellen G. White's false teachings. She even wrote that Jesus is NOT the Lord God Almighty,
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All angels, archangels, cherubim and seraphim are CREATED beings. When the Bible speaks of "thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers" that is a reference to the hierarchies of angels (holy or evil). And the Lord Jesus Christ (the Creator) has created Michael and all these hierarchies of angels.
[Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. (Colossians 1:15-17)
And lest we mistakenly assume that "the firstborn of every creature" means that Christ Himself is a creature, we have this statement in Hebrews 1:8-10: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
[Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. (Colossians 1:15-17)
And lest we mistakenly assume that "the firstborn of every creature" means that Christ Himself is a creature, we have this statement in Hebrews 1:8-10: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
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CARM and Matt Slick (whom I would be glad to openly debate/share with in this forum on the subject) mix two subjects in that article. (1) Michael and the terrible atrocity that is (2) CWP (so called Clear Word Paraphrase by J. Blanco). It would have been better to not attempt to mix the two subjects and instead address one at a time.
If any conflate the two in this thread, I will only be addressing (1). If any need to address the abomimation that is (2), would be happy do so in another thread as time allows.
If any conflate the two in this thread, I will only be addressing (1). If any need to address the abomimation that is (2), would be happy do so in another thread as time allows.
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That is an assumption not supported by the definition of the words (mal'ak, aggelos, angel), neither by the text of scripture itself.
Malachi 3:1 HOT - הנני שלח מלאכי ופנה דרך לפני ופתאם יבוא אל היכלו האדון אשר אתם מבקשים ומלאך הברית אשר אתם חפצים הנה בא אמר יהוה צבאות׃
Malachi 3:1 HOT transliterated - 3:1 hin'niy sholëªch mal'äkhiy ûfiNäh-derekh' l'fänäy ûfit'om yävô el-hëykhälô häädôn ásher-aTem m'vaq'shiym ûmal'akh' haB'riyt ásher-aTem cháfëtziym hiNëh-vä ämar y'hwäh tz'väôt
Malachi 3:1 so called lxx - ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ ἐξαποστέλλω τὸν ἄγγελόν μου καὶ ἐπιβλέψεται ὁδὸν πρὸ προσώπου μου καὶ ἐξαίφνης ἥξει εἰς τὸν ναὸν ἑαυτοῦ κύριος ὃν ὑμεῗς ζητεῗτε καὶ ὁ ἄγγελος τῆς διαθήκης ὃν ὑμεῗς θέλετε ἰδοὺ ἔρχεται λέγει κύριος παντοκράτωρ
The Son of God is directly called "the angel of the covenant" (ûmal'akh' haB'riyt ; ὁ ἄγγελος τῆς διαθήκης). He is uncreated and eternal.
The words mal'ak or aggelos or even angel, simply means "messenger, ambassador, that which carries a message". Created or Uncreated have nothing to do with the meaning of the words.
All 4 Gospels cite Malachi.
Malachi 3:1 HOT - הנני שלח מלאכי ופנה דרך לפני ופתאם יבוא אל היכלו האדון אשר אתם מבקשים ומלאך הברית אשר אתם חפצים הנה בא אמר יהוה צבאות׃
Malachi 3:1 HOT transliterated - 3:1 hin'niy sholëªch mal'äkhiy ûfiNäh-derekh' l'fänäy ûfit'om yävô el-hëykhälô häädôn ásher-aTem m'vaq'shiym ûmal'akh' haB'riyt ásher-aTem cháfëtziym hiNëh-vä ämar y'hwäh tz'väôt
Malachi 3:1 so called lxx - ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ ἐξαποστέλλω τὸν ἄγγελόν μου καὶ ἐπιβλέψεται ὁδὸν πρὸ προσώπου μου καὶ ἐξαίφνης ἥξει εἰς τὸν ναὸν ἑαυτοῦ κύριος ὃν ὑμεῗς ζητεῗτε καὶ ὁ ἄγγελος τῆς διαθήκης ὃν ὑμεῗς θέλετε ἰδοὺ ἔρχεται λέγει κύριος παντοκράτωρ
The Son of God is directly called "the angel of the covenant" (ûmal'akh' haB'riyt ; ὁ ἄγγελος τῆς διαθήκης). He is uncreated and eternal.
The words mal'ak or aggelos or even angel, simply means "messenger, ambassador, that which carries a message". Created or Uncreated have nothing to do with the meaning of the words.
All 4 Gospels cite Malachi.
You are saying that the following is not a reference to the Son of the Father?
Ezek 34:24: "And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it."
Ezek 34:23: "And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd."
Ezek 37:24: "And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them."
Ezek 37:25: "And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever."
Ezek 34:24: "And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it."
Ezek 34:23: "And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd."
Ezek 37:24: "And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them."
Ezek 37:25: "And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever."